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  • D Dr Walt Fair PE

    I learned German (my mother was German) and English pretty much at the same time as a tyke. My first computer program was written in IBM 1620 assembly language. Now I speak mostly English and Spanish (my wife is Bolivian) and haven't seen an IBM 1620 in a long, long time!

    CQ de W5ALT

    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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    Vivi Chellappa
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    Tamil and Fortran II on an IBM 1620!

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      English and Hindi in equal measure. LEO III assembler and Intercode (some years later).

      Use the best guess

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      Hindi? You must have been born in India or in Bradford! :laugh:

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      • M Marc Clifton

        thatraja wrote:

        English & HTML

        HTML isn't a language. It's an abomination. ;) Marc

        Unit Testing Succinctly

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        H Brydon
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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        HTML isn't a language.

        "HTML" is an acronym. The "L" in "HTML" stands for "Language", as in "HyperText Markup Language"...

        -- Harvey

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        • M Matthew Faithfull

          Was replying and your latest disappeared so I lost permission to post :wtf: Anyway: Was just looking into the same and modified my previous post. I think the VEX prefix business will cause the most problems. I'm not really the man for the job either as I am no assembly expert and I don't have a Haswell to test it on. If I get a chance I'll suggest AVX support to Petr and see what he reckons or you could sign up to the AsmJit Google group [^] and suggest it yourself. Are you making use of Haswell/AVX2 for anything or just interested in the bleeding edge?

          "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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          Lost User
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          You modified your post so mine became pointless.. Well, I have a Haswell and I'm an assembly expert(I guess?), so maybe I could do something there :) I'm using AVX2 in VLC (working on sound format converters), that's just regular pre-assembled assembly though.

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          • D Dr Walt Fair PE

            I learned German (my mother was German) and English pretty much at the same time as a tyke. My first computer program was written in IBM 1620 assembly language. Now I speak mostly English and Spanish (my wife is Bolivian) and haven't seen an IBM 1620 in a long, long time!

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            Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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            H Brydon
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            Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

            IBM 1620 assembly language

            Its real name was "SPS", later "SPS-II" and "SPS-IID". Long form of the name was "Symbolic Programming System". ... and a 4900796 to you too.

            -- Harvey

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            • V Vivi Chellappa

              Hindi? You must have been born in India or in Bradford! :laugh:

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              Lost User
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              A small hill station[^], at least it was back then.

              Use the best guess

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                You modified your post so mine became pointless.. Well, I have a Haswell and I'm an assembly expert(I guess?), so maybe I could do something there :) I'm using AVX2 in VLC (working on sound format converters), that's just regular pre-assembled assembly though.

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                Matthew Faithfull
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                You sound like the right man with the right tools. I'll let you know as soon as the article goes up and hopefully the source will be up on SourceForge by then as well. You're more than welcome to chip in, branch, rewrite in Haskell etc. :)

                "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                • T Tim Carmichael

                  Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                  Clifford Nelson
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                  Fortran IV and Basic/English

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                  • H H Brydon

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    HTML isn't a language.

                    "HTML" is an acronym. The "L" in "HTML" stands for "Language", as in "HyperText Markup Language"...

                    -- Harvey

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    H.Brydon wrote:

                    The "L" in "HTML" stands for "Language", as in "HyperText Markup Language"

                    As opposed to "HTPL" for "HyperText Programming Language", presumably.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • T Tim Carmichael

                      Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                      Pedro H Fialho
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                      Brazilian Portuguese and mIRCScript (yes, I used to be a script kiddie ;P). Obviously nobody builds LOB apps on top of mIRC, so nowadays my main programming language is SQL/T-SQL.

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                      • T Tim Carmichael

                        Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                        Roger Wright
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                        Proper English and FORTRAN II. I have little use for either anymore since both appear to be obsolete in the US.

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        • M Matthew Faithfull

                          Just to prove Eric right. English and Sinclair BASIC. I've used at least 9 different variants of BASIC over the years but I haven't touched it for a few now. I made the switch to Borland Turbo C++ 0.99 ( The almost perfect version :laugh: ) in 95 and never looked back.

                          "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                          Mycroft Holmes
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                          What an odd path, I had the same sort of decision around 95 as well, ended up with VB after spending 6 months building an app in turbo pascal that had so many memory leaks it blew a brand new 386 away. Just showed my lack of training I guess. Now it is c# and I really don't want to have to change again!

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          • A Andrew Rissing

                            Έτσι, αυτό είναι ελληνικά σε σας; [So, is this Greek to you?]

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                            MacSpudster
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                            Ναι, είναι ελληνικό για μένα, αλλά δεν είναι "ελληνικό" για μένα. However: Graecum est; legitur. [Yes, it is Greek to me, though it is not "greek" to me.] :-D Fun read! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_to_me[^] Of course, the end of it all: Αυτά μου φαίνονται αλαμπουρνέζικα.

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                              What an odd path, I had the same sort of decision around 95 as well, ended up with VB after spending 6 months building an app in turbo pascal that had so many memory leaks it blew a brand new 386 away. Just showed my lack of training I guess. Now it is c# and I really don't want to have to change again!

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              Matthew Faithfull
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                              It seems odd from the outside but it didn't to me at the time. Not only was the DOS based IDE for Turbo C++ really very similar to the DOS based IDE for QBasic which I'd graduated to but C++ gave me many of the things I was looking for in BASIC and not finding. The ability to write larger programs, dynamic memory allocation, serializing, objects with constructors and private functions, loadable modules. I was already trying to do these things either by simulation or convention so C++ made my life easier rather than harder. Reuse by inheritance was the clincher, not having to create another UDT with all the same stuff as the last one :thumbsup: I guess if I'd had access to VB at that point that's the way I would have gone as it did eventually provide many of those things. I did pick up VB5 and 6 later on and even ported some of my QBasic code but I found it curiously unsatisfying and then again VB6 for a bit of commercial work when it was the only practical way to use DCOM but I handed that project off pretty quickly and the next guy pretty much rewrote it. I guess once you've moved on there's no going back and that's probably a good thing. Having said that I did 3 months of C# last year and am quite happy going back to C++, the C# was fun but it reminded me of the plasticy feel of VB somehow.

                              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                              • T Tim Carmichael

                                Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                First spoken: German - still using but speaking more Italian here (southern Switzerland) First Coding: Assembler - Not using anymore. Now mainly C#.

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                                • T Tim Carmichael

                                  Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                  Hungarian and 6502 assembly Rarely and no

                                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

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                                  • T Tim Carmichael

                                    Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                    French and Z80 assembler later : COBOL, PL1, Pascal, Basic (only some idioms), C, C++, C#, PHP, HTML, W-Language (4GL Windev) and ... English (not fluent)

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                                    • T Tim Carmichael

                                      Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                      sir_download_alot
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                                      Swiss German and Standard Pascal (on a PDP 11). Still Swiss German, improved English and an understanding of French. VB6, VBA (mostly in Excel pricing tools), COBOL, Assembler and basic understanding of other languages (C#, Fortran (not proud of it) etc) without using them myself but I had to read through the code to understand what it was doing.

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                                      • T Tim Carmichael

                                        Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                        Stefan_Lang
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                                        German, some Dutch, and Pascal. Still use german, although in the meantime it's got a swiss-german flavor ;) As for dutch, I rarely use it any more as I've found that most dutch speak much better german or english than I dutch. Anyway, I never formally learned it, and I've been told when I speak it sounds funny because of the local accent and 'slang' that I grew up with. Pascal, last used it (actually Borland Delphi) some 15 years ago to develop the client side of a client-server application. Since then I've mostly worked in C++, with a short detour to Java. While I can't help my mother (and father) tongue, Pascal was unusal as a first language at my time: most of my contemporaries started out with Apple-II or C=64 Basic.

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                                        • T Tim Carmichael

                                          Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                          Chris Quinn
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                                          English English and Sinclair ZX81 Basic - I still use one of them on a regular basis


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