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  • H H Brydon

    Marc Clifton wrote:

    HTML isn't a language.

    "HTML" is an acronym. The "L" in "HTML" stands for "Language", as in "HyperText Markup Language"...

    -- Harvey

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    Mark_Wallace
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    H.Brydon wrote:

    The "L" in "HTML" stands for "Language", as in "HyperText Markup Language"

    As opposed to "HTPL" for "HyperText Programming Language", presumably.

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    • T Tim Carmichael

      Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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      Pedro H Fialho
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      Brazilian Portuguese and mIRCScript (yes, I used to be a script kiddie ;P). Obviously nobody builds LOB apps on top of mIRC, so nowadays my main programming language is SQL/T-SQL.

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      • T Tim Carmichael

        Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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        Roger Wright
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        Proper English and FORTRAN II. I have little use for either anymore since both appear to be obsolete in the US.

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        • M Matthew Faithfull

          Just to prove Eric right. English and Sinclair BASIC. I've used at least 9 different variants of BASIC over the years but I haven't touched it for a few now. I made the switch to Borland Turbo C++ 0.99 ( The almost perfect version :laugh: ) in 95 and never looked back.

          "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          What an odd path, I had the same sort of decision around 95 as well, ended up with VB after spending 6 months building an app in turbo pascal that had so many memory leaks it blew a brand new 386 away. Just showed my lack of training I guess. Now it is c# and I really don't want to have to change again!

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          • A Andrew Rissing

            Έτσι, αυτό είναι ελληνικά σε σας; [So, is this Greek to you?]

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            MacSpudster
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            Ναι, είναι ελληνικό για μένα, αλλά δεν είναι "ελληνικό" για μένα. However: Graecum est; legitur. [Yes, it is Greek to me, though it is not "greek" to me.] :-D Fun read! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_to_me[^] Of course, the end of it all: Αυτά μου φαίνονται αλαμπουρνέζικα.

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            • M Mycroft Holmes

              What an odd path, I had the same sort of decision around 95 as well, ended up with VB after spending 6 months building an app in turbo pascal that had so many memory leaks it blew a brand new 386 away. Just showed my lack of training I guess. Now it is c# and I really don't want to have to change again!

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              Matthew Faithfull
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              It seems odd from the outside but it didn't to me at the time. Not only was the DOS based IDE for Turbo C++ really very similar to the DOS based IDE for QBasic which I'd graduated to but C++ gave me many of the things I was looking for in BASIC and not finding. The ability to write larger programs, dynamic memory allocation, serializing, objects with constructors and private functions, loadable modules. I was already trying to do these things either by simulation or convention so C++ made my life easier rather than harder. Reuse by inheritance was the clincher, not having to create another UDT with all the same stuff as the last one :thumbsup: I guess if I'd had access to VB at that point that's the way I would have gone as it did eventually provide many of those things. I did pick up VB5 and 6 later on and even ported some of my QBasic code but I found it curiously unsatisfying and then again VB6 for a bit of commercial work when it was the only practical way to use DCOM but I handed that project off pretty quickly and the next guy pretty much rewrote it. I guess once you've moved on there's no going back and that's probably a good thing. Having said that I did 3 months of C# last year and am quite happy going back to C++, the C# was fun but it reminded me of the plasticy feel of VB somehow.

              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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              • T Tim Carmichael

                Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                vonb
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                First spoken: German - still using but speaking more Italian here (southern Switzerland) First Coding: Assembler - Not using anymore. Now mainly C#.

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                • T Tim Carmichael

                  Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  Hungarian and 6502 assembly Rarely and no

                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  • T Tim Carmichael

                    Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                    BugMakerPhil
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                    French and Z80 assembler later : COBOL, PL1, Pascal, Basic (only some idioms), C, C++, C#, PHP, HTML, W-Language (4GL Windev) and ... English (not fluent)

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                    • T Tim Carmichael

                      Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                      sir_download_alot
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                      Swiss German and Standard Pascal (on a PDP 11). Still Swiss German, improved English and an understanding of French. VB6, VBA (mostly in Excel pricing tools), COBOL, Assembler and basic understanding of other languages (C#, Fortran (not proud of it) etc) without using them myself but I had to read through the code to understand what it was doing.

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                      • T Tim Carmichael

                        Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                        Stefan_Lang
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                        German, some Dutch, and Pascal. Still use german, although in the meantime it's got a swiss-german flavor ;) As for dutch, I rarely use it any more as I've found that most dutch speak much better german or english than I dutch. Anyway, I never formally learned it, and I've been told when I speak it sounds funny because of the local accent and 'slang' that I grew up with. Pascal, last used it (actually Borland Delphi) some 15 years ago to develop the client side of a client-server application. Since then I've mostly worked in C++, with a short detour to Java. While I can't help my mother (and father) tongue, Pascal was unusal as a first language at my time: most of my contemporaries started out with Apple-II or C=64 Basic.

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                        • T Tim Carmichael

                          Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                          Chris Quinn
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                          English English and Sinclair ZX81 Basic - I still use one of them on a regular basis


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                          • T Tim Carmichael

                            Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                            greldak
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                            English and ICL Pascal followed by BBC BASIC before moving to mainly Fortran, VB, C, C# Yes its my native language and that of most of my colleagues and friends and No - Pascal is more used as a teaching language than for most production use

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                            • L Lost User

                              Urdu (My native language) and GW BASIC

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                              Simon ORiordan from UK
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                              The Queen's English and Fortran iv.

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                              • T Tim Carmichael

                                Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                Paulo_JCG
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                                Portuguese (born and raised in Portugal) In school first learned Pascal, later C, COBOL and VB. First work was in Delphi, loved it and used it until i met C#. Meanwhile attended University (Night school) where i learned C++ and Java TL;DR Portuguese; Pascal

                                Paulo Gomes Over and Out :D

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                                • T Tim Carmichael

                                  Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                  Michael Kingsford Gray
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                                  Australian English FORTRAN IV

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                                  • T Tim Carmichael

                                    Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                    Mohammed Hameed
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                                    Urdu --> Using at home and with some of my relatives/friends. C++ --> Used at the time of my Graduation (2001/2002) but not now.

                                    Previous -> Read "CLR via C#" by Jeffrey Ritcher. Current -> Exploring WCF thru Apress' "Pro WCF" by Chris Peiris and Dennis Mulder. Next -> Need to read "The Art of Computer Programming" by Donald E. Knuth.

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                                      The Queen's English and Fortran iv.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      You're supposed to reply on the main thread :-)

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                                        You're supposed to reply on the main thread :-)

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                                        Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                        Threads don't obey your rules, man.

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                                        • T Tim Carmichael

                                          Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                          Andrew Leeder
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                                          Brummie English and Algol60. Actually I'd done some programming on whatever language WITCH used when I was at Wolverhampton CAT in '65 but that may not count. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harwell_computer[^]

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