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Empirical proof that underscores are good

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  • M Mycroft Holmes

    Will you sod off with your dammed logic that just killed my main argument (keyboard and intellisense) against underscores, I hate the bloody things and growl at any of the devs that employ them.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    kmoorevs
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    Sorry about that! :) In the interest of keyboard efficiency, the most logical candidates would be: 0: space 1: period 2: semicolon 3: brackets[] Have fun using those! :laugh:

    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

      i_have_always_preferred_this_style ToCamelOrPascalOne and now there is a study that confirms my point of view[^] :cool:

      utf8-cpp

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      Super Lloyd
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      Stop wanking and start doing real work! :zzz: Next you'll bother us about {} instead of { } I wonder if there ever was something more pointless? Maybe it's what you argue about when your work doesn't matter, I suppose?!

      My programming get away... The Blog... DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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      • S SoMad

        :thumbsup: It's nice they put that right there in the intro. No need to read through the study then. :-\ Soren Madsen

        "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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        walterhevedeich
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        And even better that Ron had put it here, so I would no longer need to open the link.

        Signature construction in progress. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

          i_have_always_preferred_this_style ToCamelOrPascalOne and now there is a study that confirms my point of view[^] :cool:

          utf8-cpp

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          Septimus Hedgehog
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          And somebody actually got paid for writing that?

          If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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          • S Super Lloyd

            Stop wanking and start doing real work! :zzz: Next you'll bother us about {} instead of { } I wonder if there ever was something more pointless? Maybe it's what you argue about when your work doesn't matter, I suppose?!

            My programming get away... The Blog... DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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            Simon ORiordan from UK
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            Surely that's { } ?

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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              i_have_always_preferred_this_style ToCamelOrPascalOne and now there is a study that confirms my point of view[^] :cool:

              utf8-cpp

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              Stefan_Lang
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              I wonder just how much this is influenced by the fact that the english language is all lowercase by default, with very few exceptions. In german, Nouns are always uppercase, that means for a german speaker, a symbol based on german words would be more natural to read if each noun would start with an uppercase letter (e. g. FeldIndex), whereas an english speaker basing his symbol on english nouns would consider it more natural to read it all lowercase (e. g. array_index).

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              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                i_have_always_preferred_this_style ToCamelOrPascalOne and now there is a study that confirms my point of view[^] :cool:

                utf8-cpp

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                jsc42
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                Just in case (sic) you had wondered, the_underscore_style_of_naming_variables_etc is known as Snake Case.

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                • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                  Surely that's { } ?

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                  Duke Carey
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                  Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote:

                  Surely that's

                  Stop calling me Shirley

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                  • D Duke Carey

                    Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote:

                    Surely that's

                    Stop calling me Shirley

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                    Simon ORiordan from UK
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                    Looks like I picked the wrong day to give up sniffing glue.....

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                    • S Super Lloyd

                      Stop wanking and start doing real work! :zzz: Next you'll bother us about {} instead of { } I wonder if there ever was something more pointless? Maybe it's what you argue about when your work doesn't matter, I suppose?!

                      My programming get away... The Blog... DirectX for WinRT/C# since 2013! Taking over the world since 1371!

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                      Lost User
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                      Super Lloyd wrote:

                      Maybe it's what you argue about when your work doesn't matter, I suppose?!

                      Welcome to the discussion. :-D

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                      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                        i_have_always_preferred_this_style ToCamelOrPascalOne and now there is a study that confirms my point of view[^] :cool:

                        utf8-cpp

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                        Kirk Wood
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                        Empirical study to prove that the person doing the study had no clue. Early in we find that they included programmers and non programmers in the study. Which raises the question, "Why would someone include an audience the code wasn't meant for?" I will give the person the benefit of the doubt that he didn't know any better. At the end of the day, it is for people. And there is benefit to having the code consistent. And there is benefit to having that consistent state follow that which is least annoying to the audience. (And here is a clue: said audience writes code.

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                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                          i_have_always_preferred_this_style ToCamelOrPascalOne and now there is a study that confirms my point of view[^] :cool:

                          utf8-cpp

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                          Gary Huck
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                          Me? I used underScores. And I use pascal_case. And I use CamelCase. I also use Hungarian notation sometimes. I've found over the years and thousands of lines of code in many languages that there's NO ONE GOOD solution ... to just about any question. I do not, however, use tabs :)

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                            Just in case (sic) you had wondered, the_underscore_style_of_naming_variables_etc is known as Snake Case.

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                            Gary Huck
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                            nice :)

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                            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                              i_have_always_preferred_this_style ToCamelOrPascalOne and now there is a study that confirms my point of view[^] :cool:

                              utf8-cpp

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                              GenJerDan
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                              Underscores are a pain in the butt if you open the code in anything other than a code editor. The spellchecker underlines the "misspelled" word, and the underscores disappear. :p

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                              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                i_have_always_preferred_this_style ToCamelOrPascalOne and now there is a study that confirms my point of view[^] :cool:

                                utf8-cpp

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                                Luiz Monad
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                                This study just consider normal people brain, they used "seven undergraduates" from second year, people that aren't programming for long time, if they even program instead of just frequent classes. I am coding for the last ten years, my neural network has adapted to read CamelOrPascal just as fast as this_mode. But nothing is faster than just space, there is only one way to read faster, is to read less.

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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  loctrice wrote:

                                  Isn't that title case ?

                                  It's camel uppercase (or pascal / title case).

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                                  TNCaver
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                                  Loctrice is right: ThisIsTitleCase. thisIsCamelCase.

                                  If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                  • T TNCaver

                                    Loctrice is right: ThisIsTitleCase. thisIsCamelCase.

                                    If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    TNCaver wrote:

                                    ThisIsTitleCase. thisIsCamelCase.

                                    Camel case has many variants. Pascal case is upper camel case. Title case is CamelCaps. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CamelCase[^]

                                    Regards, Nish


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                                    • N Nish Nishant

                                      TNCaver wrote:

                                      ThisIsTitleCase. thisIsCamelCase.

                                      Camel case has many variants. Pascal case is upper camel case. Title case is CamelCaps. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CamelCase[^]

                                      Regards, Nish


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                                      TNCaver
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                                      So we're all correct. However, from that wiki, "Camel case may start with a capital or, especially in programming languages, with a lowercase letter." See also the article's named anchor #Current_usage_in_computing.

                                      If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                      • T TNCaver

                                        So we're all correct. However, from that wiki, "Camel case may start with a capital or, especially in programming languages, with a lowercase letter." See also the article's named anchor #Current_usage_in_computing.

                                        If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        Yeah typically I'd assume these : camelCase PascalCase (same as TitleCase).

                                        Regards, Nish


                                        Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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                                        • R Ron Beyer

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                                          One main difference is that subjects were trained mainly in the underscore style and were all programmers. While results indicate no difference in accuracy between the two styles, subjects recognize identifiers in the underscore style more quickly.

                                          [sarcasm] So its a non-biased study then? [/end sarcasm]

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                                          Narf the Mouse
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                                          There's one of two conclusions that can be drawn: 1) They tried to improve on the previous study by making a biased study. (The phrase refers to their own study) 2) They tried to improve on a previous biased study. (The phrase refers to the previous study they are comparing and contrasting their own with).

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