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  • R Roger Wright

    mikepwilson wrote:

    It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I've had a bunch of those in my life! The weird thing for me will be driving something this big. I'm going to have to learn where the corners are, and what I can get away with when parking. The Frontier was just right, and could fit anywhere, but this thing is huge, especially with the Crew Cab. I'd looked for a King Cab, since I like the extra room behind the seat, but don't really have any passengers that need seating. But none of the local dealers have any, and no one can actually sit in those stupid little seats anyway. This will be an interesting adventure... Congrats on the Tacoma; it's an excellent choice, from what I see out here in the desert - a tough survivor! :-D

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    Heh. I've had a Wrangler and an old Isuzu Trooper (back when they looked almost like jeeps with hard tops), so I'm used to driving something a bit tall. But I just can't see over the side of this thing, so I drive it like it's huge. Then I get out in a parking spot and find out I only take up about half of it. It's going to take a while to get used to. But I'll just bias to the driver's side in the meantime.

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    • Z ZurdoDev

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      It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.

      That's a great feeling. :) It is probably a lot quieter too.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      mikepwilson
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      Almost enough to complain about. I really like a crappy suspension where I can feel the road. I feel like I'm driving a damn hovercraft.

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      • R Roger Wright

        After 25 years of no/bad credit, thanks to an ex-wife, the IRS, and lousy jobs, I just checked into upgrading my 2005 Nissan Frontier to a 2013 Titan. The dealer just called, and Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%. The Frontier has been an excellent ride, through all sorts of terrain and weather, and it's cost me almost nothing to maintain, but with over 150,000 miles on it it's just a matter of time before something expensive goes "clunk!" Besides, the Titan can carry a lot more guns, and far more ammo. :-D I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!:cool: Disclaimer: Yeah, I know it's patriotic to Buy American, and I try to, but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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        Just to be fair, North American != U.S.A so if you are concerned about buying American you are better off with Foreign brands and US Factories than U.S. brands with Canadian Factories. The Titan seems to be made in MS, so don't feel too bad. I think the Japanese probably have higher U.S. parts content than the domestics anyway.

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        • L Lost User

          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          Here in the southwest we call that a "heap".

          I see no reason to be hateful. That said, I wish you and your Honda Accord the best of luck when the zombies come...

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          Roger Wright
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          :laugh: :laugh:

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          • R Roger Wright

            After 25 years of no/bad credit, thanks to an ex-wife, the IRS, and lousy jobs, I just checked into upgrading my 2005 Nissan Frontier to a 2013 Titan. The dealer just called, and Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%. The Frontier has been an excellent ride, through all sorts of terrain and weather, and it's cost me almost nothing to maintain, but with over 150,000 miles on it it's just a matter of time before something expensive goes "clunk!" Besides, the Titan can carry a lot more guns, and far more ammo. :-D I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!:cool: Disclaimer: Yeah, I know it's patriotic to Buy American, and I try to, but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            David Crow
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            Roger Wright wrote:

            ...but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.

            The first time you take it in for maintenance or repair, you'll likely be singing a different tune. I have a 2000 Silverado that I recently changed the plugs. Cost me about $8 per plug and 45 minutes of my own labor. With models built after about 2005, GM extended the cabin area by covering the back two cylinders with the dash. Now owners can no longer change their own plugs as the engine itself has to be pulled part way out to get at those back two cylinders. The other option is to remove the front tires and fenders to get at them from the side. Need to have a head gasket replaced in a new truck? That'll run you several thousand dollars given that the entire front end must be removed to expose the engine. You find all of this out from the actual mechanics, not the folks in sales.

            "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

            "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

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            • R Roger Wright

              After 25 years of no/bad credit, thanks to an ex-wife, the IRS, and lousy jobs, I just checked into upgrading my 2005 Nissan Frontier to a 2013 Titan. The dealer just called, and Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%. The Frontier has been an excellent ride, through all sorts of terrain and weather, and it's cost me almost nothing to maintain, but with over 150,000 miles on it it's just a matter of time before something expensive goes "clunk!" Besides, the Titan can carry a lot more guns, and far more ammo. :-D I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!:cool: Disclaimer: Yeah, I know it's patriotic to Buy American, and I try to, but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.

              Will Rogers never met me.

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              Michael A Barnhart
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              Enjoy the new power and space. Although I do believe the Frontier still had 50,000 good miles in it, some times you just want comfort and reliability. I almost replaced my 97 Tacoma this spring, but hey it only has 125,000 so it should be good for (ok one more squeeze between two SUV's, It has had one but survived) Also you do know the NSA is now watching.

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                Roger Wright wrote:

                ...but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.

                The first time you take it in for maintenance or repair, you'll likely be singing a different tune. I have a 2000 Silverado that I recently changed the plugs. Cost me about $8 per plug and 45 minutes of my own labor. With models built after about 2005, GM extended the cabin area by covering the back two cylinders with the dash. Now owners can no longer change their own plugs as the engine itself has to be pulled part way out to get at those back two cylinders. The other option is to remove the front tires and fenders to get at them from the side. Need to have a head gasket replaced in a new truck? That'll run you several thousand dollars given that the entire front end must be removed to expose the engine. You find all of this out from the actual mechanics, not the folks in sales.

                "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                "Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous

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                Michael A Barnhart
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                Humm, GM, Pontiac, 1960's, yep history is repeating. Thanks for the warning. I will skip that model.

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  I'm getting about 30 MPG (theoretically). In reality, I'm getting 26.7.

                  I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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                  Roger Wright
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                  Hehehe... For an engine that size, that's amazing. Why can't the US do as well, I wonder?

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    Hehehe... For an engine that size, that's amazing. Why can't the US do as well, I wonder?

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Well, part of it is down to the fact that UK and US gallons are different. 1 UK Imperial Gallon = 4.55 litres and 1 US Liquid Gallon = 3.79 litres.

                    I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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                    • D David Crow

                      Roger Wright wrote:

                      ...but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.

                      The first time you take it in for maintenance or repair, you'll likely be singing a different tune. I have a 2000 Silverado that I recently changed the plugs. Cost me about $8 per plug and 45 minutes of my own labor. With models built after about 2005, GM extended the cabin area by covering the back two cylinders with the dash. Now owners can no longer change their own plugs as the engine itself has to be pulled part way out to get at those back two cylinders. The other option is to remove the front tires and fenders to get at them from the side. Need to have a head gasket replaced in a new truck? That'll run you several thousand dollars given that the entire front end must be removed to expose the engine. You find all of this out from the actual mechanics, not the folks in sales.

                      "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                      "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                      "Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous

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                      Roger Wright
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                      Singing a different tune? How so? You merely reiterate the point I made in my post. ;P The Frontier has cost me almost nothing to maintain - changing the plugs was a chore, but I managed it at home quite nicely. The same is true of every item I've had to replace or repair - a few bucks at the parts house, an hour or two at home and it's done. A domestic truck, though... not a chance I'd own one of those.

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      • R Roger Wright

                        After 25 years of no/bad credit, thanks to an ex-wife, the IRS, and lousy jobs, I just checked into upgrading my 2005 Nissan Frontier to a 2013 Titan. The dealer just called, and Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%. The Frontier has been an excellent ride, through all sorts of terrain and weather, and it's cost me almost nothing to maintain, but with over 150,000 miles on it it's just a matter of time before something expensive goes "clunk!" Besides, the Titan can carry a lot more guns, and far more ammo. :-D I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!:cool: Disclaimer: Yeah, I know it's patriotic to Buy American, and I try to, but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        Roger Wright wrote:

                        Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%

                        So, you are renting man-points? :)

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                        • M Michael A Barnhart

                          Enjoy the new power and space. Although I do believe the Frontier still had 50,000 good miles in it, some times you just want comfort and reliability. I almost replaced my 97 Tacoma this spring, but hey it only has 125,000 so it should be good for (ok one more squeeze between two SUV's, It has had one but survived) Also you do know the NSA is now watching.

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                          Roger Wright
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                          I haven't made the deal yet, just checked that the loan will be approved. I'm going to the dealer tonight after work to review everything, and if there's the slightest bit of skulduggery going on, I'll be keeping the Frontier for a while. I think it has a good 200k miles left on it, but living and travelling out here in the desert, often many miles from anything, I prefer to have something a bit newer. And in a pinch, I can live in the Titan. :-D

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                            Roger Wright wrote:

                            Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%

                            So, you are renting man-points? :)

                            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                            Roger Wright
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                            No, just purchasing them on a payment plan at a very good interest rate. The Frontier was purchased at 12.99%, back in the bad old days.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            • R Roger Wright

                              I haven't made the deal yet, just checked that the loan will be approved. I'm going to the dealer tonight after work to review everything, and if there's the slightest bit of skulduggery going on, I'll be keeping the Frontier for a while. I think it has a good 200k miles left on it, but living and travelling out here in the desert, often many miles from anything, I prefer to have something a bit newer. And in a pinch, I can live in the Titan. :-D

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                              Michael A Barnhart
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                              Understood. The Titan should have more room underneath for the times you need shade. I assume you keep water and a cell phone handy. How well is your cell phone coverage, I assume, ok, so long as you are not in a canyon. I guess a flare gun makes sense also.

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                              • M mikepwilson

                                Congrats! The titan looks juicy. I just graduated myself from a 1997 corolla with 214k miles on it to a 2013 Toyota Tacoma. My first pick up and my first brand new vehicle. Sure feels like cheating :) It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.

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                                walterhevedeich
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                                mikepwilson wrote:

                                It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.

                                Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam once and the engine suddenly died and won't start. It was a hassle to have the vehicle be moved to the side. Good thing there were good people to help. But it was really embarrassing.

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                                  mikepwilson wrote:

                                  It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.

                                  Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam once and the engine suddenly died and won't start. It was a hassle to have the vehicle be moved to the side. Good thing there were good people to help. But it was really embarrassing.

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                                  Mycroft Holmes
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                                  walterhevedeich wrote:

                                  Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam

                                  That reminds me, we hired a diesel Audi in Spain early this year, they have a fuel saving function that turns off the motor when you stop (at the lights) and restarts when you push in the clutch. And no bastard told me, first couple of times there was a lot of frantic twisting of the ignition key until I worked out what the hell was going on!

                                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    walterhevedeich wrote:

                                    Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam

                                    That reminds me, we hired a diesel Audi in Spain early this year, they have a fuel saving function that turns off the motor when you stop (at the lights) and restarts when you push in the clutch. And no bastard told me, first couple of times there was a lot of frantic twisting of the ignition key until I worked out what the hell was going on!

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    walterhevedeich
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                                    Funny how those cool features make us look stupid sometimes. :-D The car I was talking about, however, was nothing compared to that Audi. 'Twas a Honda ESI '93 model and was better off in the junkyard than on the road.

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                                    • M Michael A Barnhart

                                      Understood. The Titan should have more room underneath for the times you need shade. I assume you keep water and a cell phone handy. How well is your cell phone coverage, I assume, ok, so long as you are not in a canyon. I guess a flare gun makes sense also.

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                                      Roger Wright
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                                      Well, I bought it. Hell, I could raise a family in this thing. Cell coverage here sucks, and it's hard to spot a flare against the IR signature of the desert, but I can always fire a rifle in the air. Or I can shoot most anything out of season; a ranger will find me in ten minutes. I wonder if Nissan makes a rifle rack for this thing?

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                        mikepwilson wrote:

                                        It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.

                                        Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam once and the engine suddenly died and won't start. It was a hassle to have the vehicle be moved to the side. Good thing there were good people to help. But it was really embarrassing.

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        Happened to me, as well, one night one the way home from work, up a mountain as a snowstorm was rolling in. The Highway Patrol stopped us all to put on tire chains, and while I was waiting for a spot by the side of the road to open up for me to put the chains on, my Toyota Tercel engine quit. Nothing would make it go again, despite my heroic efforts and the help of several friendly folks stuck behind me. We finally pushed it to the side, the snowstorm having fully fallen by then, and the road being solidly iced up, and I hitched a ride up the mountain with a kind stranger. The next day I got a tow to the mechanic and learned that the solid-state ignition module chose that moment the night before to fail. Nothing on Earth could have made that thing start again...

                                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                                        • R Roger Wright

                                          After 25 years of no/bad credit, thanks to an ex-wife, the IRS, and lousy jobs, I just checked into upgrading my 2005 Nissan Frontier to a 2013 Titan. The dealer just called, and Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%. The Frontier has been an excellent ride, through all sorts of terrain and weather, and it's cost me almost nothing to maintain, but with over 150,000 miles on it it's just a matter of time before something expensive goes "clunk!" Besides, the Titan can carry a lot more guns, and far more ammo. :-D I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!:cool: Disclaimer: Yeah, I know it's patriotic to Buy American, and I try to, but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.

                                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          BillWoodruff
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                                          Hi Roger, Congratulations on you new Chariot of Fire-Power !

                                          Roger Wright wrote:

                                          I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!

                                          Just curious: while at the dealer's where you purchased your new wheels, did you partake of any beverage, offered by the staff, of a type you had never had before ? yours, Bill

                                          ~ “This isn't right; this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli, commenting on a physics paper submitted for a journal

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