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Roger Wright wrote:
...but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.
The first time you take it in for maintenance or repair, you'll likely be singing a different tune. I have a 2000 Silverado that I recently changed the plugs. Cost me about $8 per plug and 45 minutes of my own labor. With models built after about 2005, GM extended the cabin area by covering the back two cylinders with the dash. Now owners can no longer change their own plugs as the engine itself has to be pulled part way out to get at those back two cylinders. The other option is to remove the front tires and fenders to get at them from the side. Need to have a head gasket replaced in a new truck? That'll run you several thousand dollars given that the entire front end must be removed to expose the engine. You find all of this out from the actual mechanics, not the folks in sales.
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Singing a different tune? How so? You merely reiterate the point I made in my post. ;P The Frontier has cost me almost nothing to maintain - changing the plugs was a chore, but I managed it at home quite nicely. The same is true of every item I've had to replace or repair - a few bucks at the parts house, an hour or two at home and it's done. A domestic truck, though... not a chance I'd own one of those.
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After 25 years of no/bad credit, thanks to an ex-wife, the IRS, and lousy jobs, I just checked into upgrading my 2005 Nissan Frontier to a 2013 Titan. The dealer just called, and Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%. The Frontier has been an excellent ride, through all sorts of terrain and weather, and it's cost me almost nothing to maintain, but with over 150,000 miles on it it's just a matter of time before something expensive goes "clunk!" Besides, the Titan can carry a lot more guns, and far more ammo. :-D I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!:cool: Disclaimer: Yeah, I know it's patriotic to Buy American, and I try to, but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.
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Enjoy the new power and space. Although I do believe the Frontier still had 50,000 good miles in it, some times you just want comfort and reliability. I almost replaced my 97 Tacoma this spring, but hey it only has 125,000 so it should be good for (ok one more squeeze between two SUV's, It has had one but survived) Also you do know the NSA is now watching.
I haven't made the deal yet, just checked that the loan will be approved. I'm going to the dealer tonight after work to review everything, and if there's the slightest bit of skulduggery going on, I'll be keeping the Frontier for a while. I think it has a good 200k miles left on it, but living and travelling out here in the desert, often many miles from anything, I prefer to have something a bit newer. And in a pinch, I can live in the Titan. :-D
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No, just purchasing them on a payment plan at a very good interest rate. The Frontier was purchased at 12.99%, back in the bad old days.
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I haven't made the deal yet, just checked that the loan will be approved. I'm going to the dealer tonight after work to review everything, and if there's the slightest bit of skulduggery going on, I'll be keeping the Frontier for a while. I think it has a good 200k miles left on it, but living and travelling out here in the desert, often many miles from anything, I prefer to have something a bit newer. And in a pinch, I can live in the Titan. :-D
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Understood. The Titan should have more room underneath for the times you need shade. I assume you keep water and a cell phone handy. How well is your cell phone coverage, I assume, ok, so long as you are not in a canyon. I guess a flare gun makes sense also.
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Congrats! The titan looks juicy. I just graduated myself from a 1997 corolla with 214k miles on it to a 2013 Toyota Tacoma. My first pick up and my first brand new vehicle. Sure feels like cheating :) It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.
mikepwilson wrote:
It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.
Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam once and the engine suddenly died and won't start. It was a hassle to have the vehicle be moved to the side. Good thing there were good people to help. But it was really embarrassing.
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mikepwilson wrote:
It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.
Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam once and the engine suddenly died and won't start. It was a hassle to have the vehicle be moved to the side. Good thing there were good people to help. But it was really embarrassing.
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walterhevedeich wrote:
Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam
That reminds me, we hired a diesel Audi in Spain early this year, they have a fuel saving function that turns off the motor when you stop (at the lights) and restarts when you push in the clutch. And no bastard told me, first couple of times there was a lot of frantic twisting of the ignition key until I worked out what the hell was going on!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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walterhevedeich wrote:
Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam
That reminds me, we hired a diesel Audi in Spain early this year, they have a fuel saving function that turns off the motor when you stop (at the lights) and restarts when you push in the clutch. And no bastard told me, first couple of times there was a lot of frantic twisting of the ignition key until I worked out what the hell was going on!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Funny how those cool features make us look stupid sometimes. :-D The car I was talking about, however, was nothing compared to that Audi. 'Twas a Honda ESI '93 model and was better off in the junkyard than on the road.
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Understood. The Titan should have more room underneath for the times you need shade. I assume you keep water and a cell phone handy. How well is your cell phone coverage, I assume, ok, so long as you are not in a canyon. I guess a flare gun makes sense also.
Well, I bought it. Hell, I could raise a family in this thing. Cell coverage here sucks, and it's hard to spot a flare against the IR signature of the desert, but I can always fire a rifle in the air. Or I can shoot most anything out of season; a ranger will find me in ten minutes. I wonder if Nissan makes a rifle rack for this thing?
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mikepwilson wrote:
It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.
Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam once and the engine suddenly died and won't start. It was a hassle to have the vehicle be moved to the side. Good thing there were good people to help. But it was really embarrassing.
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Happened to me, as well, one night one the way home from work, up a mountain as a snowstorm was rolling in. The Highway Patrol stopped us all to put on tire chains, and while I was waiting for a spot by the side of the road to open up for me to put the chains on, my Toyota Tercel engine quit. Nothing would make it go again, despite my heroic efforts and the help of several friendly folks stuck behind me. We finally pushed it to the side, the snowstorm having fully fallen by then, and the road being solidly iced up, and I hitched a ride up the mountain with a kind stranger. The next day I got a tow to the mechanic and learned that the solid-state ignition module chose that moment the night before to fail. Nothing on Earth could have made that thing start again...
Will Rogers never met me.
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After 25 years of no/bad credit, thanks to an ex-wife, the IRS, and lousy jobs, I just checked into upgrading my 2005 Nissan Frontier to a 2013 Titan. The dealer just called, and Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%. The Frontier has been an excellent ride, through all sorts of terrain and weather, and it's cost me almost nothing to maintain, but with over 150,000 miles on it it's just a matter of time before something expensive goes "clunk!" Besides, the Titan can carry a lot more guns, and far more ammo. :-D I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!:cool: Disclaimer: Yeah, I know it's patriotic to Buy American, and I try to, but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.
Will Rogers never met me.
Hi Roger, Congratulations on you new Chariot of Fire-Power !
Roger Wright wrote:
I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!
Just curious: while at the dealer's where you purchased your new wheels, did you partake of any beverage, offered by the staff, of a type you had never had before ? yours, Bill
~ “This isn't right; this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli, commenting on a physics paper submitted for a journal
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Singing a different tune? How so? You merely reiterate the point I made in my post. ;P The Frontier has cost me almost nothing to maintain - changing the plugs was a chore, but I managed it at home quite nicely. The same is true of every item I've had to replace or repair - a few bucks at the parts house, an hour or two at home and it's done. A domestic truck, though... not a chance I'd own one of those.
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
Singing a different tune? How so? You merely reiterate the point I made in my post. ;-P
Point taken (not sure what I was reading). Sorry for the offense.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous
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mikepwilson wrote:
It's weird not having to wonder if the vehicle will start.
Happened to me once when I was stuck in a traffic jam once and the engine suddenly died and won't start. It was a hassle to have the vehicle be moved to the side. Good thing there were good people to help. But it was really embarrassing.
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Sounds like most of my 20s and 30s ;)
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Sweet! What kind of mileage do you get from that thing? I'm expecting about 17 mpg highway with the 5.6L engine, which is about what I'm getting now with the Frontier 4.0L.
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I hate to rain on your parade, but you're dreaming if you think you are going to get 17 MPG in a Titan. I own one, bought it 9 years ago and still have it. Around town I'm lucky if i get 11 MPG. The best it has ever done was on a recent trip round trip from Dallas to Kansas City. That was 15.5-16 MPG, almost all highway driving for 1000 miles. Don't get me wrong, I love the truck. It's the best vehicle I've ever owned.
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After 25 years of no/bad credit, thanks to an ex-wife, the IRS, and lousy jobs, I just checked into upgrading my 2005 Nissan Frontier to a 2013 Titan. The dealer just called, and Nissan has approved the loan @ 2.99%. The Frontier has been an excellent ride, through all sorts of terrain and weather, and it's cost me almost nothing to maintain, but with over 150,000 miles on it it's just a matter of time before something expensive goes "clunk!" Besides, the Titan can carry a lot more guns, and far more ammo. :-D I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!:cool: Disclaimer: Yeah, I know it's patriotic to Buy American, and I try to, but we have all US-made trucks at work, and my Frontier has cost less to maintain for 8 years than any of them for one year. I don't expect to see any worse results with the Titan.
Will Rogers never met me.
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150,000 miles in 8 years? You're sure on the move a lot. Our car is an '08 model and has done less than 40,000 miles.
I not only drive a lot for work, but none of my family lives anywhere near here, so there's a bit of long distance travel there. I don't know where you live, but out here in the West, the blocks are a lot longer than in most places. :-D
Will Rogers never met me.
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Hi Roger, Congratulations on you new Chariot of Fire-Power !
Roger Wright wrote:
I think I already feel larger under the hood, and I haven't even got the thing home yet!
Just curious: while at the dealer's where you purchased your new wheels, did you partake of any beverage, offered by the staff, of a type you had never had before ? yours, Bill
~ “This isn't right; this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli, commenting on a physics paper submitted for a journal
No, nothing but my usual coffee, and I brought that myself. Other adult beverages had to wait until I got home...
Will Rogers never met me.
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I hate to rain on your parade, but you're dreaming if you think you are going to get 17 MPG in a Titan. I own one, bought it 9 years ago and still have it. Around town I'm lucky if i get 11 MPG. The best it has ever done was on a recent trip round trip from Dallas to Kansas City. That was 15.5-16 MPG, almost all highway driving for 1000 miles. Don't get me wrong, I love the truck. It's the best vehicle I've ever owned.
Well, 18 mpg is the EPA estimate, and I know they lie. I don't really care, though. It's a damn nice truck, and I haven't had the treat of a V-8 under the hood since my first car, a 1967 Ford Mustang. I've missed those extra ponies... :-D
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