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There are times that Android is far, far better than Windows

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  • OriginalGriffO Offline
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    When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

    The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

      The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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      tgrt
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      That sounds annoying. But, I'll take it over the pathetic experiences I've had with Android. I'm patiently waiting for my contract to be up.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

        The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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        Septimus Hedgehog
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        That's not their way unfortunately. I loved the article, possibly on The Reg) where their Surface was referred to as LFE (Land Fill Edition)! :laugh: It sort of sums up what pundits of the technology have been saying for a long time. Extend that concept to their upgrades and it's no wonder they are having problems in certain market sectors.

        If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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          That's not their way unfortunately. I loved the article, possibly on The Reg) where their Surface was referred to as LFE (Land Fill Edition)! :laugh: It sort of sums up what pundits of the technology have been saying for a long time. Extend that concept to their upgrades and it's no wonder they are having problems in certain market sectors.

          If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.

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          OriginalGriff
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          Not heard of the LFE! :laugh: I remember Windows 3.11- "Windows for Warehouses" - though.

          The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

            The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            I don't like automatic/transparent updates. I want to be able to reject updates. It's one of the great things about Windows.

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

              The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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              Mike Hankey
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              When I went to buy a tablet recently I purposely chose one with an Android OS. Never used Android and wanted to see what it was like and hate Windows 8 so the choice was a no brainer and so far I'm very impressed.

              VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

                The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                Matthew Faithfull
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                Even more amusing when you realize that Android is in fact GoogleLinux with a seriously out of date kernel and all the apps written in Java! It just goes to show that it's all about the UX details. Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that. MS have been incredibly lucky that they did not.

                "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                  Even more amusing when you realize that Android is in fact GoogleLinux with a seriously out of date kernel and all the apps written in Java! It just goes to show that it's all about the UX details. Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that. MS have been incredibly lucky that they did not.

                  "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                  Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                  Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

                  I have to politely disagree here. The real reason that most Linux distributions look as if they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time is simply that they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time. To produce polished software requires a dedicated team of professionals working specifically toward that goal, as in a big corporation. So my point is that no matter what the people who work on Linux understood or understand, Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                    Even more amusing when you realize that Android is in fact GoogleLinux with a seriously out of date kernel and all the apps written in Java! It just goes to show that it's all about the UX details. Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that. MS have been incredibly lucky that they did not.

                    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                    Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                    It just goes to show that it's all about the UX details. Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

                    And that's because it's development has been driven predominatly by software engineers and rocket scientists who love the whole command line thing. They don't get that 99.5% of actual users are not like them, have no idea and no interest in how a computer works, they just want to click "Send" (or whatever) and see their email/farcebook post/etc. happen. Heck, some struggle with that. If anyone had actually bothered to rope in some graphic designers and UX designers (I'm guessing Microsoft, along with Apple have buildings full of them) then just maybe that would have happened.

                    If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

                      The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                      Rajesh R Subramanian
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                      You could always choose the way Windows updates will be delivered to you: fully automatic, download but prompt for install, prompt for both download and install, don't check for updates. I think it will only take a few seconds to choose an option that suits you.

                      "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                        You could always choose the way Windows updates will be delivered to you: fully automatic, download but prompt for install, prompt for both download and install, don't check for updates. I think it will only take a few seconds to choose an option that suits you.

                        "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                        :) :thumbsup: I was waiting for someone to say that. I nuked them ages ago and the only time they bother me is when they tell me there's an update available. I do of course, check to see what and why - installing as deemed necessary. Works perfectly well for me. :shrug: My computer, my rules!

                        "Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin

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                        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                          Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                          Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

                          I have to politely disagree here. The real reason that most Linux distributions look as if they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time is simply that they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time. To produce polished software requires a dedicated team of professionals working specifically toward that goal, as in a big corporation. So my point is that no matter what the people who work on Linux understood or understand, Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

                          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                          Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                          Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

                          Someone like Google, you mean? :laugh:

                          The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            :) :thumbsup: I was waiting for someone to say that. I nuked them ages ago and the only time they bother me is when they tell me there's an update available. I do of course, check to see what and why - installing as deemed necessary. Works perfectly well for me. :shrug: My computer, my rules!

                            "Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin

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                            Joezer BH
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                            :shrug: would be a nice addition to the thin ico library :shrug:

                            It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                            ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                            • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                              Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                              Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

                              I have to politely disagree here. The real reason that most Linux distributions look as if they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time is simply that they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time. To produce polished software requires a dedicated team of professionals working specifically toward that goal, as in a big corporation. So my point is that no matter what the people who work on Linux understood or understand, Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

                              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                              Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                              Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

                              Is Canonical not a for-profit organisation?

                              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                :shrug: would be a nice addition to the thin ico library :shrug:

                                It is a paradox that paradoxes would actually exist in reality. That means of course that they don't exist. However, they do!

                                ∫(Edo)dx = Tzumer ∑k(this.Kid)k = this.♥

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                                I think so too. I'm sure it would have a greater utility than things like :beer: or :jig: Until then, I guess there's just the text :shrug: or an ascii pic. ¯\(°_o)/¯'

                                "Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin

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                                  Even more amusing when you realize that Android is in fact GoogleLinux with a seriously out of date kernel and all the apps written in Java! It just goes to show that it's all about the UX details. Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that. MS have been incredibly lucky that they did not.

                                  "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                  Erudite_Eric
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                                  Out of date? Yeah, the 2.6 kernel is old, but it is used a lot for embedded devices like Android since it is stable and works. If you want an old kernel look at windows, it goes back to 2000 in a pretty much unchanged state.

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                                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                    Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                    Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

                                    I have to politely disagree here. The real reason that most Linux distributions look as if they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time is simply that they were created by a bunch of amateurs in their spare time. To produce polished software requires a dedicated team of professionals working specifically toward that goal, as in a big corporation. So my point is that no matter what the people who work on Linux understood or understand, Linux will never compete on the desktop until it is reworked by a for-profit organization.

                                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                                    Ehhmmmm, I will only say... Windows Millenium and Windows Vista

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                      It just goes to show that it's all about the UX details. Linux dominating the desktop could have happened years ago if those developing it had only understood that.

                                      And that's because it's development has been driven predominatly by software engineers and rocket scientists who love the whole command line thing. They don't get that 99.5% of actual users are not like them, have no idea and no interest in how a computer works, they just want to click "Send" (or whatever) and see their email/farcebook post/etc. happen. Heck, some struggle with that. If anyone had actually bothered to rope in some graphic designers and UX designers (I'm guessing Microsoft, along with Apple have buildings full of them) then just maybe that would have happened.

                                      If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can. “We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone "The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone

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                                      Brady Kelly
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                                      I understand how a computer works down to motherboard component level and still just want to click "Send" over typing out some error prone and cryptic command in an archaic shell.

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

                                        The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                                        NormDroid
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                                        Aye Android does it how it should be. I own a: Samsung 10.1 Tab 2 Nexus 7 (Cracked Screen/Digitizer) :(( HTC One Development learning curve is medium but well worth the rewards, especially when Android now has market share.

                                        Software Kinetics - Dependable Software news

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          When MS wants to update itself, it just nags at you, or forces a restart. My Nexus 7 has just notified me that it's downloaded Android 4.3 but there isn't enough battery to upgrade it, but that's OK - connect it to the charger and it'll do it then... MS: take note, please. Upgrades can be done transparently... And politely!

                                          The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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                                          Android is the biggest and most popular malware I've ever known.

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