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  • D Dalek Dave

    I heard a rumour that induction charging is being resisted (no pun intended) by the phone manufacturers because it would be a generic charger that could do it, so they could not charge a premium for their chargers. (J'Accuse Pomme)

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    Rage
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    Not sure. You would have to adapt the fields and frequency for each model, which could end up of a lot of variants, e.g. as with the connectors today-

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    • D Dalek Dave

      I heard a rumour that induction charging is being resisted (no pun intended) by the phone manufacturers because it would be a generic charger that could do it, so they could not charge a premium for their chargers. (J'Accuse Pomme)

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      Dan Neely
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      Five years ago I might find that claim credible; but having lost the regulatory fight with the EU and having agreed to everything charges with microUSB, with crApple the lone recipient of a dongle waiver, the generic charger is already upon us.

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      • D Dalek Dave

        I heard a rumour that induction charging is being resisted (no pun intended) by the phone manufacturers because it would be a generic charger that could do it, so they could not charge a premium for their chargers. (J'Accuse Pomme)

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        Hamed Musavi
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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        induction charging

        Does using heat energy, count as induction charging? Based on the video, it's not capable of absorbing much energy, so it won't eliminate need for chargers, but still it's cool to have batteries that live longer than a day I'd say and that using a charger that is included in the phone (isn't visible), sounds cool to me.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          I heard a rumour that induction charging is being resisted (no pun intended) by the phone manufacturers because it would be a generic charger that could do it, so they could not charge a premium for their chargers. (J'Accuse Pomme)

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          Nicholas Marty
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          The last phone I bought did not have a charger with it (Galaxy Nexus). As you can use any charger with Mini USB to charge them. I can even use the one from my mouse to charge my phone. I don't now exactly about newer model but I thought the trend was going more in the direction of leaving the charger out. (and sell the phones a bit cheaper [citation needed]). So at least Android Phones use mostly generic chargers.

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            The last phone I bought did not have a charger with it (Galaxy Nexus). As you can use any charger with Mini USB to charge them. I can even use the one from my mouse to charge my phone. I don't now exactly about newer model but I thought the trend was going more in the direction of leaving the charger out. (and sell the phones a bit cheaper [citation needed]). So at least Android Phones use mostly generic chargers.

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            Simon_Whale
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            I think its only Apple that use a specific charger. I have a Nokia Lumia running Windows 7.8 and it uses a mini USB charger

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            • S Simon_Whale

              I think its only Apple that use a specific charger. I have a Nokia Lumia running Windows 7.8 and it uses a mini USB charger

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              Nicholas Marty
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              Yeah. I believe most manufacturers are using Mini or Micro USB. So were at least down to two (excluding apple for minding its own business)

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                I think its only Apple that use a specific charger. I have a Nokia Lumia running Windows 7.8 and it uses a mini USB charger

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                Rage
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                Samsung uses proprietary as well. Looks like mini USB, but is not.

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                  Samsung uses proprietary as well. Looks like mini USB, but is not.

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  My GS3 uses a generic charger, but my TAB2 is a OEM.

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                  • H Hamed Musavi

                    A friend sent me this today: http://youtu.be/9CCGUMkcbjg[^] pretty cool! I was wondering, when will our android device use heat of our hands to recharge it's battery?

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                    Sounds like those self-winding watches (that break all the time).

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      My GS3 uses a generic charger, but my TAB2 is a OEM.

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                      Rage
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                      Yep, excuse my generalization: I was relying on Galaxy1, GalaxyMini, Tab1. But I reckon I am living in the past. Anyway, good news that they change it !

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                        Samsung uses proprietary as well. Looks like mini USB, but is not.

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                        Roger Wright
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                        My Samsung Epic 4G (Galaxy S) works fine with any mini-USB charger I've found so far. So do all of the other Samsung phones I've seen in use by friends.

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          I heard a rumour that induction charging is being resisted (no pun intended) by the phone manufacturers because it would be a generic charger that could do it, so they could not charge a premium for their chargers. (J'Accuse Pomme)

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                          DaveAuld
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                          That doesn't make sense when the majority of moby makers agreed to standardise on the mini-usb to do away with the need to have lots of different chargers.

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                            That doesn't make sense when the majority of moby makers agreed to standardise on the mini-usb to do away with the need to have lots of different chargers.

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            Yes, because they were forced to by the EU. However the EU has not forced the Induction Charge Ubiquity through yet, so they are holding out for as long as possible in order to develop dissimilar standards in order to make money.

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                              Yes, because they were forced to by the EU. However the EU has not forced the Induction Charge Ubiquity through yet, so they are holding out for as long as possible in order to develop dissimilar standards in order to make money.

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                              Vikram A Punathambekar
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                              But... but... I thought you were against the evil EU autocrats who force people and companies to do things against the spirit of the free market :confused: Could it be... that CP's unofficial #1 EU-phobe is now feeling a smattering of gratitude towards the EU? :~

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                              • H Hamed Musavi

                                A friend sent me this today: http://youtu.be/9CCGUMkcbjg[^] pretty cool! I was wondering, when will our android device use heat of our hands to recharge it's battery?

                                Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                                Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Sounds like a win. :sigh: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thermodynamics[^]

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