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Do people really have accidents as a matter of course like that? I would never expect that anyone would have one. Maybe our driving test is sufficiently rigorous that people are prepared for 'noob mistakes' and don't continue with them to the point of hitting things? I've never (touch wood) hit anything serious, and my brother's damage extends to a badger strike (fairly nasty superficial car damage, but totally not his fault) and a wingmirror (expecting oncoming traffic to get over and it didn't).
Requirements vary by state; in PA upgrading your learners permit (supervision required) to a drivers license requires, among other things, 65 hours of documented driving experience. Mastering a skill, requires several hundred to several thousand hours of practice; which for most people would require years to acquire (this is reflected by steadily dropping insurance rates through your 20s). Even if your parents carry out a running lecture series about why gotchas and why they're doing what they're doing, learning by lecture is a lot less effective than learning by doing; and the latter inevitably entails mistakes. The accident I had at 17.5 is a good example. I was approaching an intersection where I didn't have to stop; and a, sun blinded, driver at the cross street slowly pulled out in front of me trying to cross the intersection. There wasn't enough space to do more than break hard and slow from 45 to 25mph, and the ditch/embankments on either side of the road meant I couldn't evade by driving onto someones lawn. At the last second it occurred to me to cut my wheel hard so I hit her front fender at a 45* angle instead of t-boning her drivers door, which while it probably guaranteed her car was totaled too allowed everyone to walk away with nothing worse than sea tbelt bruises. But in my panic I forgot about my horn until it was too late. If she reacted fast and gunned her engine I might've been able to pass behind her on the shoulder; which is why although it wasn't my fault I say that if I was more experienced I might have been able to prevent it..
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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So I get one of those tense phone calls from my daughter - the phone call where she's crying and you can hear traffic in the background - and you know she was (or is) in rush hour traffic on the way to school - and through the tears and choking sobs she lets me know that she almost hit someone. In the first 10 seconds of that call I'm thinking "she's been in a horrible accident and she's pinned inside of a burning vehicle". So I have to concentrate to not laugh out loud the rest of the call because I'm so relieved that all of this drama is over an 'almost'. *phew*
My daughter turns 16 in November and is begging us to get her temps. I am scared out of my mind. :-P
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So I get one of those tense phone calls from my daughter - the phone call where she's crying and you can hear traffic in the background - and you know she was (or is) in rush hour traffic on the way to school - and through the tears and choking sobs she lets me know that she almost hit someone. In the first 10 seconds of that call I'm thinking "she's been in a horrible accident and she's pinned inside of a burning vehicle". So I have to concentrate to not laugh out loud the rest of the call because I'm so relieved that all of this drama is over an 'almost'. *phew*
As a youth, I took this from the other side: have wrecked my car with a triple-roll (Saab 96 3cyl), I called home, schmoozed for a while, and then told them I wrecked my car. By this point, they didn't get a panic attack as I seemed alright (at least for me).
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Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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You know, I would need pictures of your rush hour. The first crash was at 5pm, rainy, and I should have known better than to let him out on the road. And, yes, it happens all the time here. In my neck of the woods well north of Atlanta, we'll lose an average of 6 teenagers / year to crashes.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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My daughter turns 16 in November and is begging us to get her temps. I am scared out of my mind. :-P
temps are fine. We let ours get theirs ASAP. But they don't get the car until 18 and can afford their own insurance. This allows them to get a lot of experience. My eldest daughter still thinks her nickname is, "Stop, STOP, STOPP!!!!!!" :) caveat: some of the children have shown no interest in driving. Fine :)
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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how I have visions of you in a pentagram holding a big curved dagger over an old Ford
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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how I have visions of you in a pentagram holding a big curved dagger over an old Ford
Old Ford???? OLD FORD?????? Sacrilege!!
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So I get one of those tense phone calls from my daughter - the phone call where she's crying and you can hear traffic in the background - and you know she was (or is) in rush hour traffic on the way to school - and through the tears and choking sobs she lets me know that she almost hit someone. In the first 10 seconds of that call I'm thinking "she's been in a horrible accident and she's pinned inside of a burning vehicle". So I have to concentrate to not laugh out loud the rest of the call because I'm so relieved that all of this drama is over an 'almost'. *phew*
MehGerbil wrote:
she almost hit someone who she didn't want to hit
Waste makes me cry, too.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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My daughter turns 16 in November and is begging us to get her temps. I am scared out of my mind. :-P
I have no idea what temps are, in this context. Are they like a provisional driving license/learner's permit?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You know, I would need pictures of your rush hour. The first crash was at 5pm, rainy, and I should have known better than to let him out on the road. And, yes, it happens all the time here. In my neck of the woods well north of Atlanta, we'll lose an average of 6 teenagers / year to crashes.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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English rush hour traffic generally slows to a crawl so you really can't crash because you're not moving at all.
As it is in Atlanta. The key situation is "once the roads get full." But there is that sweet spot that results in the most carnage - roads aren't quite full allowing high speeds and there is enough congestion to catch the foolish. That and Atlanta drivers are some of the dumbest I have EVER seen. If not dumb, then rude, reckless and general a$$holes. I've seen people in very expensive cars cutting off beaters because they got po'd.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I have no idea what temps are, in this context. Are they like a provisional driving license/learner's permit?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Learner's permit, yes. :)
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temps are fine. We let ours get theirs ASAP. But they don't get the car until 18 and can afford their own insurance. This allows them to get a lot of experience. My eldest daughter still thinks her nickname is, "Stop, STOP, STOPP!!!!!!" :) caveat: some of the children have shown no interest in driving. Fine :)
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I didn't even think of having her keep her temps until she can buy her own insurance. That's ingenius. :)
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I didn't even think of having her keep her temps until she can buy her own insurance. That's ingenius. :)
The best part is that if it's a temp or learners permit, the insurance company doesn't charge anything. :)
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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The best part is that if it's a temp or learners permit, the insurance company doesn't charge anything. :)
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Can I keep her at temps for 2 years? :D
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Can I keep her at temps for 2 years? :D
Of course. :) The 17 yo soon to be 18 is going for her driving test next week. The 19 yo soon to be 20, has no real interest in driving (changing, we're getting cranky playing taxi driver). She wants a scooter, but I shudder to think of her on a scooter (think Vespa) in Atlanta.
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759