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Which free tool would you recommend? (file backups/copies) ALREADY SOLVED THANK YOU ALL!

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  • R Rutvik Dave

    I have used Comodo Backup[^] in the past, and it worked just fine. It has very nice feature set.

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    Joan M
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    I'll keep robocopy as it is already installed on my W7 computer and it does what I need (simple copy to an external HDD). Anyway, that tool seems really powerful. Looks good, I'll keep an eye on it. Thank you! :thumbsup:

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    • R Ravi Bhavnani

      I wrote this[^] more than 10 years ago - it's pretty basic (no scheduling :( ) but may be of help in a pinch.  A full-feature one is in the works, but it will be a few months before it's available. /ravi

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      Joan M
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      I'll stick with Robocopy, but this looks promising. Will you make an article of it? Thank you for the suggestion! :thumbsup:

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      • J Joan M

        I don't plan to automate it... so I would only make the backup once needed (which is each time I add some pictures to the HDD). Using Robocopy (which I've already tried) it's a breeze and really fast so I've chosen that option. Thank you! :thumbsup:

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        Excellent, a useful bit of research, I think I'll just tag along with the same implementation :)

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        • V Valery Possoz

          I gave up with external drives for backup. I use http://www.drobox.com[^] and I'm very happy with it. I had a couple of crashes recently and got all my data back very easily. Plus I can access my documents from anywhere. :)

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          Joan M
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          Even remote backup seems a good idea (and it is indeed) I don't feel really comfortable uploading all my pictures, videos and documents to a place where anyone could see them... I guess that no one would be interested on my pr0n neither on my plans to attack several countries, but imagine that could happen... :rolleyes: Seriously, it is a good option, but to get it working properly you need a good speed rate and at our place it is not possible to get it so I prefer something local. Thank you! :thumbsup: PS: just in case somebody here (which is important) or someone at the NSA or similar (which is not) have not understood that the phrase about pr0n and so is a joke they should visit a psychologist.

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            I've been using Cobian Back-up[^] for donkeys' yonks, because it's configuration is so easy and logical.

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            Joan M
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            Thank you Mark, but I'll keep the robocopy tool, it has been a breeze to setup, it is blazingly fast and makes what should do for me. Oh, and it is already installed in all Win7 computers so... Thank you again for your suggestion! :thumbsup:

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            • M Member 9167057

              robocopy with the /mir switch.

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              Joan M
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              Yepo, that's the one I've chosen after the suggestions. Thank you! :thumbsup:

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              • S selvan1709

                Syncback free is the perfect tool for this. Using this on multiple family/ friends computers for years. http://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html[^]

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                Joan M
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                Thank you selvan1790, I'll use robocopy, it has been what looked like more to what I need. :thumbsup:

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                • I irneb

                  A very old one I've used in the past: Karen's Replicator[^] For something written in VB6 it doesn't seem to work badly at all. Reasonably fast, not too resource hungry and once you've set it up - there's no user interruptions. Not saying it's "better" than any of the others, it probably isn't. But AFAICT it provides all needed functionality in a way that even a non-PC-litterate could get something going.

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                  Joan M
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                  Somehow VB and safety not look good in the same sentence without a big not in between both of them :laugh: I've not tested it and probably it will work wonderfully well, I've got robocopy working after some suggestions and it seems a good choice for my needs. Thank you for your hint! :thumbsup:

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                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                    Excellent, a useful bit of research, I think I'll just tag along with the same implementation :)

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    Joan M
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                    If you want to use it, and you want to copy special folders like "My documents" you will have to use the /XJ switch to exclude juntions and allow it to continue processing the copy. I've ended with /MIR /XJ. Good luck! :thumbsup:

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                    • J Joan M

                      Somehow VB and safety not look good in the same sentence without a big not in between both of them :laugh: I've not tested it and probably it will work wonderfully well, I've got robocopy working after some suggestions and it seems a good choice for my needs. Thank you for your hint! :thumbsup:

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                      irneb
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                      Joan Murt wrote:

                      Somehow VB and safety not look good in the same sentence

                      Yep! :thumbsup: That also scared me! One thing though: a few years ago I was tasked with a syncing app for my employer. The thing was they were rendering using 3dStudio, they were using a distributed render farm through the VRay addon. This meant that up to 50 PC's could be used at once to render a single image. They did however end up with issues as the network had access problems for sharing materials and such between the master PC and the slaves. Everything was tried including placing the materials on shared folders, but there was allways issues with this. Not to mention network traffic became bogged down as the same files were effectively copied multiple times to each PC. The idea behind the app I had to write for them was to keep network traffic to an absolute minimum while making a local copy of the materials on each PC. I ended up using robocopy, but it was found that even that would not suffice as it would still copy the entire material (if it was changed) - these wiles were easily several 100MB each, so were a real problem - especially as these were constantly modified (tweaked). The end product worked much the same way as a torrent client in that it broke each file into blocks, then used CRC to check if those blocks were different between PCs - only transmitting the different portions. It ended up using 1/1000th of the bandwidth the shared folder used, and around 1/100th of what robocopy did - though it was very specific on that use case. I haven't seen such for LAN / Local backup before, not even sure if something like DropBox does similar - though I'd have definitely given such idea a lot of time if I wanted to create a DropBox (or similar) client app.

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                        Joan Murt wrote:

                        Somehow VB and safety not look good in the same sentence

                        Yep! :thumbsup: That also scared me! One thing though: a few years ago I was tasked with a syncing app for my employer. The thing was they were rendering using 3dStudio, they were using a distributed render farm through the VRay addon. This meant that up to 50 PC's could be used at once to render a single image. They did however end up with issues as the network had access problems for sharing materials and such between the master PC and the slaves. Everything was tried including placing the materials on shared folders, but there was allways issues with this. Not to mention network traffic became bogged down as the same files were effectively copied multiple times to each PC. The idea behind the app I had to write for them was to keep network traffic to an absolute minimum while making a local copy of the materials on each PC. I ended up using robocopy, but it was found that even that would not suffice as it would still copy the entire material (if it was changed) - these wiles were easily several 100MB each, so were a real problem - especially as these were constantly modified (tweaked). The end product worked much the same way as a torrent client in that it broke each file into blocks, then used CRC to check if those blocks were different between PCs - only transmitting the different portions. It ended up using 1/1000th of the bandwidth the shared folder used, and around 1/100th of what robocopy did - though it was very specific on that use case. I haven't seen such for LAN / Local backup before, not even sure if something like DropBox does similar - though I'd have definitely given such idea a lot of time if I wanted to create a DropBox (or similar) client app.

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                        Joan M
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                        Seems an interesting project indeed. As always: the right tool for the job. :cool:

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                        • S Steve Mayfield

                          do you mean dropbox.com?

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                          Valery Possoz
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                          yes :)

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                          • J Joan M

                            Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

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                            Ed Korsberg
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                            GoodSync from Siber Systems is good and easy to use.

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                              I'll stick with Robocopy, but this looks promising. Will you make an article of it? Thank you for the suggestion! :thumbsup:

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Joan Murt wrote:

                              Will you make an article of it?

                              That's the plan. :) /ravi

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                              • J Joan M

                                Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                                [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                Charles Dittmeier
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                                Joan Murt wrote:

                                I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder.
                                 
                                I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”.
                                 
                                What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why?

                                I have been using Karen Kenworthy's Replicator for years and have found it does what I want: updating or adding changed or new files, deleting files on the target that are no longer on the source, etc. It has a multitude of options that make it very configurable, including scheduling. Peace, Charlie

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                                • J Joan M

                                  Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                                  [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                  ve3meo
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                                  The free CrashPlan works well for me. I have it set up to back up automatically to an external hard drive and over the Internet to a relative's computer, also running CrashPlan. Optionally, you can subscribe to their cloud storage and access that with the mobile app, which I did for a while. Even the free version sends an email report of the status. It seems unobtrusive but is always running in the background. Tom

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                                    Joan Murt wrote:

                                    I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder.
                                     
                                    I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”.
                                     
                                    What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why?

                                    I have been using Karen Kenworthy's Replicator for years and have found it does what I want: updating or adding changed or new files, deleting files on the target that are no longer on the source, etc. It has a multitude of options that make it very configurable, including scheduling. Peace, Charlie

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                                    Joan M
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                                    Yes, I did not know about that tool but @irneb has suggested it before... it seems that is a rock solid VB application... I've said rock solid and VB in the same sentence... :~ At the end I've decided to go for Robocopy, it works fast and well and do what I need. Thank you for the suggestion! :thumbsup:

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                                    • J Joan M

                                      Hello all, After asking here about a good tool to make some file copying, I've received wonderful answers from a lot of members here. At the end I've chosen Robocopy as [@Gary R. Wheeler](/Members/Gary R. Wheeler) has suggested. Thank you again Gary and thank you all for your posts, they are really interesting! ================================================================================ At our house computer (Windows 7) we have an USB external hard disk which is used to copy our documents and important files and have them in another physical disk (you know: just in case). Nowadays what I'm doing is something like: delete the second disk completely and then copying everything again to the second one. X| X| X| I hate doing that and I'm sure any method under the sun will be better. Now my question is: I would like to get something lightweight, that could be programmed to work each week or so and that would ensure that all the data would be updated on the backup folder. I’m not worried on the deleted files: if we delete one file we want it that way so it should be deleted also in the “backup”. What tool would you recommend, which configuration would you recommend and why? Thank you in advance! :thumbsup:

                                      [www.tamautomation.com] Robots, CNC and PLC machines for grinding and polishing.

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                                      BrainiacV
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                                      IOMega used to include a backup utility with their hardware. Intended of course for use with their Zip and Jaz drives, but the programmers did it right and let you backup to anywhere, even over a network. I used to have it set to monitor my documents and program source code subdirectories on several machines and when a change was noted, it would copy the files to a set of USB drives I had connected to a Linksys NAS controller. The idea being that if there was a fire or other emergency, I'd just grab the external USB drives and run out the door. I'm pulling a blank on the name, sorry.

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                                      • V ve3meo

                                        The free CrashPlan works well for me. I have it set up to back up automatically to an external hard drive and over the Internet to a relative's computer, also running CrashPlan. Optionally, you can subscribe to their cloud storage and access that with the mobile app, which I did for a while. Even the free version sends an email report of the status. It seems unobtrusive but is always running in the background. Tom

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                                        Joan M
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                                        Thank you Tom, but I prefer something in my own house than something remote... I can understand the advantages of getting something out of our house, but I don't feel right to put all our pictures, videos, music and so outside. I know nobody will be interested in our life, but who knows :rolleyes: Apart of that our Internet speed is not the best one... I'll go with Robocopy, tested it and worked like charm at first attempt. :thumbsup:

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                                        • E Ed Korsberg

                                          GoodSync from Siber Systems is good and easy to use.

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                                          Joan M
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                                          Thank you Ed, At the end I'll go with Robocopy, already installed (so impossible to improve it's footprint) fast and work well... Thank you for your suggestion! :thumbsup:

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