BBC Micro V2.0?
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BBC to promote programming again![^] I don't know if I would be working in IT if it wasn't for the BBC Micro, so I have a fondness for the idea... Now if the BBC could get a programming device developed - maybe a BBC-Pad - aimed at being easy to program ...
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)? The ability to speak facts, unencumbered by ridiculous social mores, does not imply anything other than contempt for ridiculous social mores.
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Peer reviewed study, please - or it's just your unsubstantiated opinion. ;P On a more serious note - as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty. Please try to think about the effect your comments may have on those who are not part of the same demographic as yourself. Some LGBT people are very vulnerable - and thoughtless remarks really don't help. :rose:
Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
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Peer reviewed study, please - or it's just your unsubstantiated opinion. ;P On a more serious note - as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty. Please try to think about the effect your comments may have on those who are not part of the same demographic as yourself. Some LGBT people are very vulnerable - and thoughtless remarks really don't help. :rose:
Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
Peer reviewed study, please
As long as I don't have to include pictures... X|
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty
Sorry, but if someone has misplaced or over-heightened sensibilities, then I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to fix that. What I will do is the same as I do for every other person I encounter -- i.e. treat them as people. If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences, because they only use apple products, or for anything else that they wrongly think merits special treatment, I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to get back to knocking accountants for being boring and untrustworthy, tories for being sexual deviants, and Welshmen for shagging sheep -- because people are capable of laughing at themselves, and I treat people as people.
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BBC should be concentrating on TV programming not Computer Programming that's our TV license money goes. BBC Micro was a excellent machine for the time, albeit expensive.
NormDroid wrote:
BBC should be concentrating on TV programming not Computer Programming
Absolute nonsense. Part of the remit of the BBC is to provide educational programmes. How do you think so many people got into programming back in the 80s? It was through the excellent "Me and My Micro" series. I'd rather they spent my fee educating people.
Chill _Maxxx_
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It certainly was! From it grew the Archimedes and the ARM chips which dominate the mobile market today. For a bit of funb, you can get a BBC emulator here[^] then download my game, PooperPig here[^] Then marvel over how poor games were back then! (PooperPig was No. 1 in the Ceefax Download Charts)
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
Ceefax Download? I remember there being some short listings on Ceefax and could remember our teacher (?) hooking up a BBC to a Ceefax tv, don't remember a modem being used...my class mates now don't remember this, was it possible?
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BBC should be concentrating on TV programming not Computer Programming that's our TV license money goes. BBC Micro was a excellent machine for the time, albeit expensive.
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
Peer reviewed study, please
As long as I don't have to include pictures... X|
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty
Sorry, but if someone has misplaced or over-heightened sensibilities, then I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to fix that. What I will do is the same as I do for every other person I encounter -- i.e. treat them as people. If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences, because they only use apple products, or for anything else that they wrongly think merits special treatment, I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to get back to knocking accountants for being boring and untrustworthy, tories for being sexual deviants, and Welshmen for shagging sheep -- because people are capable of laughing at themselves, and I treat people as people.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
No special treatment is required - just a little care and thought. Thoughtless remarks can cause unnecessarily harm to vulnerable (who by definition are likely to have "have over-heightened sensibilities" through no fault of their own). Worse, they influence others to do likewise. Please at least try to be more thoughtful.
Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
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Ceefax Download? I remember there being some short listings on Ceefax and could remember our teacher (?) hooking up a BBC to a Ceefax tv, don't remember a modem being used...my class mates now don't remember this, was it possible?
Yep - you needed an adapter [^] though (although I don't recall having one!)
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)? The ability to speak facts, unencumbered by ridiculous social mores, does not imply anything other than contempt for ridiculous social mores.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)?
Not at all. And they weren't facts.
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)?
Not at all. And they weren't facts.
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
_Maxxx_ wrote:
And they weren't facts.
You've never been to Shepherd's Bush, then?
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
And they weren't facts.
You've never been to Shepherd's Bush, then?
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As it happens, yes I have. As it also happens, I think the BBC aren't there any more anyway. I'm pretty sure there were some gay people there as statistically speaking there would be. But (apparently unlike you) I don't go around wondering at other peoples sexual preferences. I really don't care if you shag men, women or donkeys, but (unless you really are 14 years old) feel you should perhaps grow up and act a little more maturely.
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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As it happens, yes I have. As it also happens, I think the BBC aren't there any more anyway. I'm pretty sure there were some gay people there as statistically speaking there would be. But (apparently unlike you) I don't go around wondering at other peoples sexual preferences. I really don't care if you shag men, women or donkeys, but (unless you really are 14 years old) feel you should perhaps grow up and act a little more maturely.
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
_Maxxx_ wrote:
I'm pretty sure there were some gay people there as statistically speaking there would be.
Indeed. 90%. Are you paying attention, or what?
_Maxxx_ wrote:
But (apparently unlike you) I don't go around wondering at other peoples sexual preferences.
You don't have to be particularly observant to recognise that you're the odd man out.
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Yep - you needed an adapter [^] though (although I don't recall having one!)
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
So I do remember correctly... :omg:
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BBC to promote programming again![^] I don't know if I would be working in IT if it wasn't for the BBC Micro, so I have a fondness for the idea... Now if the BBC could get a programming device developed - maybe a BBC-Pad - aimed at being easy to program ...
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
Ditto. I loved my BBC Micro model B. Some times I still hear the two tone 'turning on' sound in my head. It was so loud and had no mute switch. I used to try and muffle it with a jumper so I wouldn't be caught turning my computer on when I shouldn't be.
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Feeling a little too PC todat(sic)? The ability to speak facts, unencumbered by ridiculous social mores, does not imply anything other than contempt for ridiculous social mores.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
Peer reviewed study, please
As long as I don't have to include pictures... X|
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
as an LGBT person comments like your one above feel quite nasty
Sorry, but if someone has misplaced or over-heightened sensibilities, then I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to fix that. What I will do is the same as I do for every other person I encounter -- i.e. treat them as people. If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences, because they only use apple products, or for anything else that they wrongly think merits special treatment, I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to get back to knocking accountants for being boring and untrustworthy, tories for being sexual deviants, and Welshmen for shagging sheep -- because people are capable of laughing at themselves, and I treat people as people.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences, because they only use apple products, or for anything else that they wrongly think merits special treatment, I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen.
So it is quite ok with you if 90% of the stores could refuse to sell you anything because of your skin color? And also ok if 90% of businesses refused to hire you because of your religion choice? And certainly ok with you that if 90% of people decided that they found you personally offensive for something that they thought that you might do in the privacy of your own home that they could insist that all businesses refuse to do any sort of business at all with you?
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BBC to promote programming again![^] I don't know if I would be working in IT if it wasn't for the BBC Micro, so I have a fondness for the idea... Now if the BBC could get a programming device developed - maybe a BBC-Pad - aimed at being easy to program ...
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
Although I preferred the C64 for programming, I did enjoy programming the BBC Micro and got a top grade for a school project for which I wrote a database system in BASIC, complete with search and editing features. I also wrote the odd scientific program on the BBC. I never went on to make a living in IT though, it was never what I wanted to do for a career, though I still code a lot (but not on the BBC anymore, though I played on an emulator recently!). I code mostly for fun, but sometimes I write apps for other people. So I guess whether or not these schemes encourage people into the IT industry, software development is a useful and fun skill to have nevertheless.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences, because they only use apple products, or for anything else that they wrongly think merits special treatment, I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen.
So it is quite ok with you if 90% of the stores could refuse to sell you anything because of your skin color? And also ok if 90% of businesses refused to hire you because of your religion choice? And certainly ok with you that if 90% of people decided that they found you personally offensive for something that they thought that you might do in the privacy of your own home that they could insist that all businesses refuse to do any sort of business at all with you?
As always, you are intentionally interpreting what I say as the exact opposite of what I say. Try reading the words I write, rather than listening to the little hate-filled voices in your head. It's getting a bit tedious, y'know.
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As always, you are intentionally interpreting what I say as the exact opposite of what I say. Try reading the words I write, rather than listening to the little hate-filled voices in your head. It's getting a bit tedious, y'know.
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You said "If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences...I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen". It wasn't clear to me, especially in the context of your other comments, what exactly you think "special treatment" is exactly. Certainly some people do in fact think that "special treatment" is a law that disallows people from doing exactly what I said (and which does happen without such laws.)
Mark_Wallace wrote:
...than listening to the little hate-filled voices in your head.
Certainly possible that we are saying the same thing but I am rather certain that term does not apply to me. Especially not in a discussion about what 'gay' means in the current vernacular given that I first spoke out publicly for homosexual rights in 1974.
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You said "If someone wants special treatment because of life choices, sexual preferences...I'm afraid it ain't gonna happen". It wasn't clear to me, especially in the context of your other comments, what exactly you think "special treatment" is exactly. Certainly some people do in fact think that "special treatment" is a law that disallows people from doing exactly what I said (and which does happen without such laws.)
Mark_Wallace wrote:
...than listening to the little hate-filled voices in your head.
Certainly possible that we are saying the same thing but I am rather certain that term does not apply to me. Especially not in a discussion about what 'gay' means in the current vernacular given that I first spoke out publicly for homosexual rights in 1974.
This really isn't worth my time to discuss, but if you can't tell the difference between treating everyone equally and giving certain groups of people special treatment, then you perhaps should refer to a dictionary.
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