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    NeverJustHere
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    And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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      And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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      NeverJustHere wrote:

      Microsoft - what are you doing??

      You think they know? :omg:

      The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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        NeverJustHere wrote:

        Microsoft - what are you doing??

        You think they know? :omg:

        The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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        NeverJustHere
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        I can guess at what they are trying to do - which is to leverage their dominance in desktop and laptop space into tablet and phone space - except in doing so, they have completely trashed the reason they are dominant in the desktop and laptop space. They should have learned from their IE experience - a dominant product will yield to a superior product. And right now I'd rather use Mint Linux that Windows 8.

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          And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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          NeverJustHere wrote:

          the orange is just awful.

          Well, saying this on CP is a bit rude... :rolleyes:

          ~RaGE();

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            And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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            My biggest annoyance with 8.1 is that it insists on branding my desktop image with the version and build number. PLUS the text "Safe start has not been configured correctly" (translation from Swedish, so the actual English text might differ) - WITHOUT giving me the option to configure the flucking Safe start OR tell me how to do it! :mad: And Google is not helpful in removing the branding either. Doesn't seem like anybody but me cares about the text obscuring the picture of my cats!!! X|

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              NeverJustHere wrote:

              the orange is just awful.

              Well, saying this on CP is a bit rude... :rolleyes:

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              Fair point - and one that I hadn't considered. But comparing them side-by-side (oh, wait I can't do that because Metro is full screen...) no, Windows is definitely significantly more, and excessively too, orange on Metro. CodeProject, as orange as it is, is subtle and understated in comparison.

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                Fair point - and one that I hadn't considered. But comparing them side-by-side (oh, wait I can't do that because Metro is full screen...) no, Windows is definitely significantly more, and excessively too, orange on Metro. CodeProject, as orange as it is, is subtle and understated in comparison.

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                OK, ok, I put the tar and the feathers back in their cabinet. Seriously now, I think you can change the colors, can't you ? And the whole subscribing stuff has been going on for ages, and has to do with the cloud. I bet you an sync a lot of things with mobile devices if you subscribe... but I hate it. I even refused to install some applications that look great because I did not freaking want to have yet another account.

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                  And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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                  Marco Bertschi
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                  As long as the reboot worked you can consider yourself lucky[^] :-\ .

                  People becoming wiser in order to notice the stupid things they did back in the young days. This doesn't mean that they really stop doing those things. Wise people still do stupid things, only on purpose.

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                    My biggest annoyance with 8.1 is that it insists on branding my desktop image with the version and build number. PLUS the text "Safe start has not been configured correctly" (translation from Swedish, so the actual English text might differ) - WITHOUT giving me the option to configure the flucking Safe start OR tell me how to do it! :mad: And Google is not helpful in removing the branding either. Doesn't seem like anybody but me cares about the text obscuring the picture of my cats!!! X|

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                    Johnny J. wrote:

                    branding my desktop image with the version and build number

                    Ah, this is made that way so you can access the information more easily when calling the hotline :rolleyes:

                    Johnny J. wrote:

                    Google is not helpful in removing the branding either.

                    Have you tried spitting on the screen and rubbing it with your fist ?

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                      Johnny J. wrote:

                      branding my desktop image with the version and build number

                      Ah, this is made that way so you can access the information more easily when calling the hotline :rolleyes:

                      Johnny J. wrote:

                      Google is not helpful in removing the branding either.

                      Have you tried spitting on the screen and rubbing it with your fist ?

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                      Rage wrote:

                      Have you tried spitting on the screen and rubbing it with your fist ?

                      Can't do that. I'm saving it if I should happen to come across an MS support technician IRL. :doh:

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                        Johnny J. wrote:

                        branding my desktop image with the version and build number

                        Ah, this is made that way so you can access the information more easily when calling the hotline :rolleyes:

                        Johnny J. wrote:

                        Google is not helpful in removing the branding either.

                        Have you tried spitting on the screen and rubbing it with your fist ?

                        ~RaGE();

                        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        Rage wrote:

                        Have you tried spitting on the screen and rubbing it with your fist ?

                        Or spitting on your fist and using it on the screen?

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Rage wrote:

                          Have you tried spitting on the screen and rubbing it with your fist ?

                          Or spitting on your fist and using it on the screen?

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          It is a software problem, don't blame the hardware !

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                            And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            NeverJustHere wrote:

                            Microsoft - what are you doing??

                            It's called "Ballmer's Revenge." :) Marc

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                              My biggest annoyance with 8.1 is that it insists on branding my desktop image with the version and build number. PLUS the text "Safe start has not been configured correctly" (translation from Swedish, so the actual English text might differ) - WITHOUT giving me the option to configure the flucking Safe start OR tell me how to do it! :mad: And Google is not helpful in removing the branding either. Doesn't seem like anybody but me cares about the text obscuring the picture of my cats!!! X|

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                              Does this help any ? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/windows-startup-settings-including-safe-mode[^] And this? http://www.askvg.com/how-to-remove-watermark-build-number-info-from-desktop-in-windows-8-consumer-preview-public-beta/[^]

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                                And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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                                Joe Woodbury
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                                The lack of a seamless upgrade surprised and annoyed me as well. Enough so, that I won't bother upgrading my main work system. (I've actually gotten used to Windows 8 and now prefer it in several respects over Windows 7, but I simply don't see anything compelling in Windows 8.1--most every new feature MS brags about elicits a big shrug from me.)

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                                  Does this help any ? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/windows-startup-settings-including-safe-mode[^] And this? http://www.askvg.com/how-to-remove-watermark-build-number-info-from-desktop-in-windows-8-consumer-preview-public-beta/[^]

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                                  Not really, but thank you for trying. The first link seems to be how to get INTO safe startup mode, not how to "configure it" - whatever the hell MS means by that... Please understand that I have NO IDEA whatsoever about what setting I am supposed to configure to get the bloody text to disappear! The second link, I had found before, but it doesn't seem to apply in my scenario. First of all, it's a hack that assumes that you have a static desktop image (and I have a rotating one), and second of all: There are no such files as transcoded wallpapers and cached files in my windows 8.1 folders. The tip is written for windows 8 consumer preview, so I can only assume that it has been changed, either in the official windows 8 release or somewhere in the windows 8.1 development cycle. :sigh:

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                                    And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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                                    Dave Calkins
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                                    I upgraded recently too and didn't think to hit ESC at that step. Definitely want to use a local account. Fortunately it sat there for awhile and eventually said it failed and so I would have to use a local account which is exactly what I wanted to do in the first place. I should have tried the ESC key though.

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                                      And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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                                      David Crow
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                                      NeverJustHere wrote:

                                      And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again.

                                      Encountered the same thing with 8.0

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                                        I upgraded recently too and didn't think to hit ESC at that step. Definitely want to use a local account. Fortunately it sat there for awhile and eventually said it failed and so I would have to use a local account which is exactly what I wanted to do in the first place. I should have tried the ESC key though.

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                                        I missed that too and now have to log in with my Live account. Anybody know how to change that back? :confused:

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                                          And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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                                          Marc A Brown
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                                          NeverJustHere wrote:

                                          And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again.

                                          And what's wrong with that? It works rather nicely, lets you sync settings across devices, give you seamless access to SkyDrive, etc. I updated my Surface RT and my desktop PC yesterday. Other than the fact that it took quite a while to do (which isn't really surprising, I suppose), I didn't have any problems. I really liked Win 8 & RT, but the 8.1/8.1 RT changes really rock!

                                          NeverJustHere wrote:

                                          New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful.

                                          So change them. That's not difficult.

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