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So, I just upgraded to windows 8.1

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  • D Dave Calkins

    I upgraded recently too and didn't think to hit ESC at that step. Definitely want to use a local account. Fortunately it sat there for awhile and eventually said it failed and so I would have to use a local account which is exactly what I wanted to do in the first place. I should have tried the ESC key though.

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    Johnny J
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    I missed that too and now have to log in with my Live account. Anybody know how to change that back? :confused:

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      And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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      Marc A Brown
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      NeverJustHere wrote:

      And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again.

      And what's wrong with that? It works rather nicely, lets you sync settings across devices, give you seamless access to SkyDrive, etc. I updated my Surface RT and my desktop PC yesterday. Other than the fact that it took quite a while to do (which isn't really surprising, I suppose), I didn't have any problems. I really liked Win 8 & RT, but the 8.1/8.1 RT changes really rock!

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      New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful.

      So change them. That's not difficult.

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        And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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        Brisingr Aerowing
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        I only had to reboot once. The install took about 30 min to complete, and I had already been using my Windows Live account for login (I like the settings synchronization from my main computer to my VMs), so I just had to enter my password. I don't see much orange on the start screen or desktop. I don't store anything that I consider private on my computer (I use an encrypted external drive for that), so I don't really care about the SkyDrive thing (it is useful for school-related documents, though. Removes the need for a flash drive).

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        • J Johnny J

          My biggest annoyance with 8.1 is that it insists on branding my desktop image with the version and build number. PLUS the text "Safe start has not been configured correctly" (translation from Swedish, so the actual English text might differ) - WITHOUT giving me the option to configure the flucking Safe start OR tell me how to do it! :mad: And Google is not helpful in removing the branding either. Doesn't seem like anybody but me cares about the text obscuring the picture of my cats!!! X|

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          Johnny J. wrote:

          My biggest annoyance with 8.1 is that it insists on branding my desktop image with the version and build number.

          Weird, I don't have that on mine...did you update via the Store or the ISO from MSDN?

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          • J Johnny J

            I missed that too and now have to log in with my Live account. Anybody know how to change that back? :confused:

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            Start Screen > All Apps Button > PC Settings > Accounts > Your Account > Disconnect Link

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            • M Marc A Brown

              NeverJustHere wrote:

              And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again.

              And what's wrong with that? It works rather nicely, lets you sync settings across devices, give you seamless access to SkyDrive, etc. I updated my Surface RT and my desktop PC yesterday. Other than the fact that it took quite a while to do (which isn't really surprising, I suppose), I didn't have any problems. I really liked Win 8 & RT, but the 8.1/8.1 RT changes really rock!

              NeverJustHere wrote:

              New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful.

              So change them. That's not difficult.

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              Forogar
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              And what's wrong with that?

              How about all those local resources that are protected from the seething mass of excrement that is the interweb? With a web account I can't get to them but oh yes, there's my SkyDrive! That's like taking the wheels off my car so I can listen to the radio more easily!

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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                Forogar
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                I upgraded my Window 8 a few weeks ago by formatting the partition and reinstalling good old Windows 7. Now that was an upgrade!

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  And what's wrong with that?

                  How about all those local resources that are protected from the seething mass of excrement that is the interweb? With a web account I can't get to them but oh yes, there's my SkyDrive! That's like taking the wheels off my car so I can listen to the radio more easily!

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  Marc A Brown
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                  Um... not quite sure I get what you're saying. With a Microsoft Account, I believe you can configure SkyDrive to get you access to those local resources (at least you could with the SkyDrive desktop application on Win7 and Win8 before 8.1).

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                  • M Marc A Brown

                    Um... not quite sure I get what you're saying. With a Microsoft Account, I believe you can configure SkyDrive to get you access to those local resources (at least you could with the SkyDrive desktop application on Win7 and Win8 before 8.1).

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                    Forogar
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                    I don't want to configure SkyDrive to have access to anything? I have normal everyday network shares to my various file servers, etc. that are all handled by a local (network) login, not by a web account - I don't want my private information accessed via web anything.

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    • F Forogar

                      I don't want to configure SkyDrive to have access to anything? I have normal everyday network shares to my various file servers, etc. that are all handled by a local (network) login, not by a web account - I don't want my private information accessed via web anything.

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                      Marc A Brown
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                      Ok, so now I really don't understand your original issue. It's not like you have to use SkyDrive. It's there if you want it.

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                      • J Johnny J

                        Not really, but thank you for trying. The first link seems to be how to get INTO safe startup mode, not how to "configure it" - whatever the hell MS means by that... Please understand that I have NO IDEA whatsoever about what setting I am supposed to configure to get the bloody text to disappear! The second link, I had found before, but it doesn't seem to apply in my scenario. First of all, it's a hack that assumes that you have a static desktop image (and I have a rotating one), and second of all: There are no such files as transcoded wallpapers and cached files in my windows 8.1 folders. The tip is written for windows 8 consumer preview, so I can only assume that it has been changed, either in the official windows 8 release or somewhere in the windows 8.1 development cycle. :sigh:

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                        ledtech3
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                        There may be a registry setting then that enables it then. I may just have to look into it further then. I guess I don't understand what you mean by Configure. You either start a system in safe mode or you don't. You don't normally need safemode unless you are troubleshooting something.

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                          And am annoyed. Even before looking at any features. Why would the update need to reboot TWICE?? An be careful with the prompts on the final reboot. They try to re-enable all the 'send to Microsoft...' options. And they try to get you to log in with a web account, rather than a local account - again. Pops up a logon screen that says - "please enter your email address to logon" Wasn't obvious to me how to logon to a normal local account - but a couple of bashes on the escape key got me back to the normal logon. Frustrating. New colours in Metro are even worse - the orange is just awful. Microsoft - what are you doing??

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                          MacSpudster
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                          I'm still running Windows XP. Will go to Win7 inside the next 6 months, at least from what I can deduce from what limited info is availed to me.

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                            I upgraded my Window 8 a few weeks ago by formatting the partition and reinstalling good old Windows 7. Now that was an upgrade!

                            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                            MacSpudster
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                            In reply to your signature of: I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code. See if you can't use the equivalent of Reflection, POKE, PEEK, or other such tools. :-D

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                              I'm still running Windows XP. Will go to Win7 inside the next 6 months, at least from what I can deduce from what limited info is availed to me.

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                              Forogar
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                              I had very little problem and switched from XP to W7 very easily. I currently run a mixture of XP, Vista and W7 at home with no issues except I connect an older inkjet and a scanner to the XP machine as W7 doesn't have the drivers - although Vista did for the printer, which is weird. I have a newer printer and scanner that work fine with W764 though so it's just laziness waiting t upgrade the XP to W7 I suppose.

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              • L lewax00

                                Johnny J. wrote:

                                My biggest annoyance with 8.1 is that it insists on branding my desktop image with the version and build number.

                                Weird, I don't have that on mine...did you update via the Store or the ISO from MSDN?

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                                ISO from MSDN

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                                  ISO from MSDN

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                                  Hi, There is no watermark in the Retail build. If your watermark looks like this[^] then you have test signing enabled. You can remove the watermark by simply enabling driver signing with 'bcdedit.exe /set TESTSIGNING off' If your watermark looks like this[^] then you can get rid of it by changing the 'PaintDesktopVersion' registry key located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\ to '0' Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                                    Hi, There is no watermark in the Retail build. If your watermark looks like this[^] then you have test signing enabled. You can remove the watermark by simply enabling driver signing with 'bcdedit.exe /set TESTSIGNING off' If your watermark looks like this[^] then you can get rid of it by changing the 'PaintDesktopVersion' registry key located at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\ to '0' Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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                                    None of the tips worked for me. I've still got the flucking watermark... :sigh: But thanks for trying

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                                      I had very little problem and switched from XP to W7 very easily. I currently run a mixture of XP, Vista and W7 at home with no issues except I connect an older inkjet and a scanner to the XP machine as W7 doesn't have the drivers - although Vista did for the printer, which is weird. I have a newer printer and scanner that work fine with W764 though so it's just laziness waiting t upgrade the XP to W7 I suppose.

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      I was only complaining that I *still* have to use WinXP for up to the next 6 months...

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                                        None of the tips worked for me. I've still got the flucking watermark... :sigh: But thanks for trying

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                                        Looking into it further I discovered that that setting for disabling it does nothing on the Eval version of windows 8 enterprise no matter what you set it at. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop PaintDesktopVersion data 0 This should disable it but does not. digging deeper the process that actually sets it seems to be in shell32. CDesktopWatermark::s_PaintWatermark I have verified the the build number is coming from the registry by changing the setting then refreshing the desktop. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion CurrentBuildNumber I still have not found a way around it at the moment. Still looking

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                                          None of the tips worked for me. I've still got the flucking watermark... :sigh: But thanks for trying

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                                          ledtech3
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                                          I contacted a Microsoft Support person and they said that trial versions and test version "Enforce" that watermark. In other words will not allow you to get rid of it. If you ended up with some sort of eval version instead of a upgrade or full version then that may explain why you cannot get rid of it.

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