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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Then there are people like this one: http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/yorkshire-bank-loses-its-good-name/2022458.article[^] (old, contains a swear word for a surname). Theoretically, you can change your name to anything - Prince did!

    The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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    Nicholas Marty
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    And then there are those who name their child after an airline... (or an ordinal direction respectively)

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    • N Nicholas Marty

      hm. so if you'd have a child you could name him theoretically Mohammad Mohammad Mohammad? :D

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      Lost User
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      One of advantage of is that its all same name so whatever he fill in any form it will be correct. ;)

      My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff

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      • R Rutvik Dave

        I cannot believe someone asked a question about it. :omg: It's self-explanatory, unless you don't know English at all. Typical Yahoo Answers (Look, he forgot to ask about User Name and Display Name).

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        Wamuti
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        Rutvik Dave wrote:

        It's self-explanatory, unless you don't know English at all.

        It not that obvious. Apparently naming systems seem to vary according to culture. Makes things not so obvious if you are filling forms in a different cultural oriented country.

        Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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          Rutvik Dave wrote:

          It's self-explanatory, unless you don't know English at all.

          It not that obvious. Apparently naming systems seem to vary according to culture. Makes things not so obvious if you are filling forms in a different cultural oriented country.

          Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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          Chinese is an example, they use Family name then Given name. So if you saw Ping Lee, he would be addressed as Mr Ping, not Mr Lee.

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          • N Nicholas Marty

            And then there are those who name their child after an airline... (or an ordinal direction respectively)

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            Wamuti
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            and the kid might wonder what and how their parents were thinking at the time.

            Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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              محمد م. محمد wrote:

              Middle Name is father first name

              Now that is even more confusing. I thought that Last Name should be your fathers name, similar to a surname! :doh:

              Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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              It is quite common, and relatively widespread, its called a patronymic[^]. Even in the UK it as echos in surnames like Johnson/Thompson Benson etc, which originated as patronymics that "stuck".

              PB 369,783 wrote:

              I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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              • D Dalek Dave

                Chinese is an example, they use Family name then Given name. So if you saw Ping Lee, he would be addressed as Mr Ping, not Mr Lee.

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                Wamuti
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                :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

                Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                • K Keith Barrow

                  It is quite common, and relatively widespread, its called a patronymic[^]. Even in the UK it as echos in surnames like Johnson/Thompson Benson etc, which originated as patronymics that "stuck".

                  PB 369,783 wrote:

                  I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                  Plus there is the O', the Mac and the Ap to indicate it is from the father. Fitz means 'bastard son of' so Fitzwilliam is the Bastard Son of William.

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                  • L Lost User

                    My Name is: Mohammad Mostafa Mohammad First Name: Mohammad Middle Name: Mostafa Last Name: Mohammad Middle Name is father first name

                    My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff

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                    So whose squiggle .p squiggle?? :confused:

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                    • L Lost User

                      Nope, in arab countries its this format: First Name - Father First name - Family Name. Some have double First name like "Mohammad Ali" like the famous boxer. "Mohammad Ali" is the first name

                      My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff

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                      Wamuti
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                      I am just amazed by the big variation of such important fields! I have never thought of design consideration in any application I have ever built!

                      محمد م. محمد wrote:

                      Some have double First name like "Mohammad Ali" like the famous boxer. "Mohammad Ali" is the first name

                      How does he get around filling forms. See this post I was just shown: http://stilgherrian.com/category/only-one-name/[^]

                      Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                      • W Wamuti

                        and the kid might wonder what and how their parents were thinking at the time.

                        Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                        Wamuti wrote:

                        and the kid might wonder what and how where their parents were thinking at the time of conception.

                        FTFY! :laugh:

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                        • P Phil Martin

                          Some countries, like Australia, don't even require a surname. Like this guy.[^] Pretty interesting, but I wouldn't want to have to explain that to every business interact with. Imagine how many software systems mandate a surname field be non-null

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                          I knew a bloke whose whole name was "Q" in English, but pronounced "kway". He had endless problems.

                          PB 369,783 wrote:

                          I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                          • P Phil Martin

                            Some countries, like Australia, don't even require a surname. Like this guy.[^] Pretty interesting, but I wouldn't want to have to explain that to every business interact with. Imagine how many software systems mandate a surname field be non-null

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                            Rage
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                            Phil Martin wrote:

                            Some countries, like Australia,

                            There is no country like Australia.

                            ~RaGE();

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                            • L Lost User

                              You got that right. In arab countries its this format: First Name - Father First name - Family Name. Some have double First name like "Mohammad Ali" like the famous boxer. "Mohammad Ali" is the first name So what is your full name?

                              My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff

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                              Marco Bertschi
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                              My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

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                              • W Wamuti

                                :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

                                Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                                No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

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                                • W Wamuti

                                  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

                                  Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                                  Marco Bertschi
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                                  Wamuti wrote:

                                  (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

                                  They are all brothers!

                                  The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                                  • M Marco Bertschi

                                    My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

                                    The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                                    Mycroft Holmes
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                                    Stop yer bitchin - I got stuck with a clan name as well, and they insist it is on the passport so with the confusion of where the surname lives in Asia I can be called Mr and of 3 out of 4 names for some reason they NEVER use McKay, the clan name, weird.

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    • M Marco Bertschi

                                      My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

                                      The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                                      Marco Bertschi wrote:

                                      I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

                                      You should suggest it to your country ;)

                                      My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

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                                        Wamuti
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                                        :laugh: :laugh: This is so humorous and informative! I'm hurting of laughter! You definitely made my Monday!

                                        Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                                        • M Marco Bertschi

                                          Wamuti wrote:

                                          (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

                                          They are all brothers!

                                          The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                                          Wamuti
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                                          No, you are kidding! Right?:mad:

                                          Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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