First Name, Surname, Middle Name, Last Name
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I cannot believe someone asked a question about it. :omg: It's self-explanatory, unless you don't know English at all. Typical Yahoo Answers (Look, he forgot to ask about User Name and Display Name).
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Rutvik Dave wrote:
It's self-explanatory, unless you don't know English at all.
It not that obvious. Apparently naming systems seem to vary according to culture. Makes things not so obvious if you are filling forms in a different cultural oriented country.
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
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Rutvik Dave wrote:
It's self-explanatory, unless you don't know English at all.
It not that obvious. Apparently naming systems seem to vary according to culture. Makes things not so obvious if you are filling forms in a different cultural oriented country.
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
Chinese is an example, they use Family name then Given name. So if you saw Ping Lee, he would be addressed as Mr Ping, not Mr Lee.
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And then there are those who name their child after an airline... (or an ordinal direction respectively)
and the kid might wonder what and how their parents were thinking at the time.
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
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محمد م. محمد wrote:
Middle Name is father first name
Now that is even more confusing. I thought that Last Name should be your fathers name, similar to a surname! :doh:
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
It is quite common, and relatively widespread, its called a patronymic[^]. Even in the UK it as echos in surnames like Johnson/Thompson Benson etc, which originated as patronymics that "stuck".
PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]
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Chinese is an example, they use Family name then Given name. So if you saw Ping Lee, he would be addressed as Mr Ping, not Mr Lee.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
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It is quite common, and relatively widespread, its called a patronymic[^]. Even in the UK it as echos in surnames like Johnson/Thompson Benson etc, which originated as patronymics that "stuck".
PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]
Plus there is the O', the Mac and the Ap to indicate it is from the father. Fitz means 'bastard son of' so Fitzwilliam is the Bastard Son of William.
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My Name is: Mohammad Mostafa Mohammad First Name: Mohammad Middle Name: Mostafa Last Name: Mohammad Middle Name is father first name
My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff
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Nope, in arab countries its this format: First Name - Father First name - Family Name. Some have double First name like "Mohammad Ali" like the famous boxer. "Mohammad Ali" is the first name
My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff
I am just amazed by the big variation of such important fields! I have never thought of design consideration in any application I have ever built!
محمد م. محمد wrote:
Some have double First name like "Mohammad Ali" like the famous boxer. "Mohammad Ali" is the first name
How does he get around filling forms. See this post I was just shown: http://stilgherrian.com/category/only-one-name/[^]
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
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and the kid might wonder what and how their parents were thinking at the time.
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
Wamuti wrote:
and the kid might wonder what and how where their parents were thinking at the time of conception.
FTFY! :laugh:
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger. English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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Some countries, like Australia, don't even require a surname. Like this guy.[^] Pretty interesting, but I wouldn't want to have to explain that to every business interact with. Imagine how many software systems mandate a surname field be non-null
I knew a bloke whose whole name was "Q" in English, but pronounced "kway". He had endless problems.
PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]
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Some countries, like Australia, don't even require a surname. Like this guy.[^] Pretty interesting, but I wouldn't want to have to explain that to every business interact with. Imagine how many software systems mandate a surname field be non-null
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You got that right. In arab countries its this format: First Name - Father First name - Family Name. Some have double First name like "Mohammad Ali" like the famous boxer. "Mohammad Ali" is the first name So what is your full name?
My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff
My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
Wamuti wrote:
(Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)
They are all brothers!
The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder
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My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.
The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder
Stop yer bitchin - I got stuck with a clan name as well, and they insist it is on the passport so with the confusion of where the surname lives in Asia I can be called Mr and of 3 out of 4 names for some reason they NEVER use McKay, the clan name, weird.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.
The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder
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No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.
--------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
:laugh: :laugh: This is so humorous and informative! I'm hurting of laughter! You definitely made my Monday!
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
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Wamuti wrote:
(Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)
They are all brothers!
The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
Just as there are no standard address formats there are no standard name formats.
This is all bad at the back end, for a database being reviewed by different people in different cultures can e confusing.
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
I remember working for a Spanish company - the address discussions took a few weeks to come to some sort of resolution considering our native database address representation worked for the US and UK.
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No, you are kidding! Right?:mad:
Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
They have the same last name :laugh: :laugh:
The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder
