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  • P Phil Martin

    Some countries, like Australia, don't even require a surname. Like this guy.[^] Pretty interesting, but I wouldn't want to have to explain that to every business interact with. Imagine how many software systems mandate a surname field be non-null

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    Rage
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    Phil Martin wrote:

    Some countries, like Australia,

    There is no country like Australia.

    ~RaGE();

    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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    • L Lost User

      You got that right. In arab countries its this format: First Name - Father First name - Family Name. Some have double First name like "Mohammad Ali" like the famous boxer. "Mohammad Ali" is the first name So what is your full name?

      My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff

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      Marco Bertschi
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      My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

      The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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      • W Wamuti

        :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

        Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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        Dalek Dave
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        No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

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        • W Wamuti

          :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

          Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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          Marco Bertschi
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          Wamuti wrote:

          (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

          They are all brothers!

          The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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          • M Marco Bertschi

            My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

            The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Stop yer bitchin - I got stuck with a clan name as well, and they insist it is on the passport so with the confusion of where the surname lives in Asia I can be called Mr and of 3 out of 4 names for some reason they NEVER use McKay, the clan name, weird.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            • M Marco Bertschi

              My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

              The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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              Lost User
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              Marco Bertschi wrote:

              I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

              You should suggest it to your country ;)

              My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff

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              • D Dalek Dave

                No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

                --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                Wamuti
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                :laugh: :laugh: This is so humorous and informative! I'm hurting of laughter! You definitely made my Monday!

                Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                • M Marco Bertschi

                  Wamuti wrote:

                  (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

                  They are all brothers!

                  The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                  Wamuti
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                  No, you are kidding! Right?:mad:

                  Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                  • W Wamuti

                    GuyThiebaut wrote:

                    Just as there are no standard address formats there are no standard name formats.

                    This is all bad at the back end, for a database being reviewed by different people in different cultures can e confusing.

                    Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                    GuyThiebaut
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                    I remember working for a Spanish company - the address discussions took a few weeks to come to some sort of resolution considering our native database address representation worked for the US and UK.

                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                    • W Wamuti

                      No, you are kidding! Right?:mad:

                      Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                      Marco Bertschi
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                      They have the same last name :laugh: :laugh:

                      The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                      • M Mycroft Holmes

                        Stop yer bitchin - I got stuck with a clan name as well, and they insist it is on the passport so with the confusion of where the surname lives in Asia I can be called Mr and of 3 out of 4 names for some reason they NEVER use McKay, the clan name, weird.

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        Marco Bertschi
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                        Maybe they think it is sort of a shortened first name, McKayla for example ? :laugh: :laugh:

                        The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                        • M Marco Bertschi

                          They have the same last name :laugh: :laugh:

                          The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Atcherley, Li Lian jie (Jet Li) and Lee Jun fan (Bruce Lee) do actually have the same first name (李), but we ignorant Westerners spell one of them wrong. Gong Li confuses things even more, because Li is her forename, not her surname, and it's a completely different word (俐).

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          • M Marco Bertschi

                            They have the same last name :laugh: :laugh:

                            The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                            Wamuti
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                            :laugh: :doh: Nice one .. Hadn't thought of it that way.. ;)

                            Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              Atcherley, Li Lian jie (Jet Li) and Lee Jun fan (Bruce Lee) do actually have the same first name (李), but we ignorant Westerners spell one of them wrong. Gong Li confuses things even more, because Li is her forename, not her surname, and it's a completely different word (俐).

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              Wamuti
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                              Mark_Wallace wrote:

                              Li Lian jie (Jet Li) and Lee Jun fan (Bruce Lee)

                              You mean they are not called Jet Lee and Bruce Lee respectively?? :laugh:

                              Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                              • W Wamuti

                                It couldn't they standardize this? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006032413872[^]

                                Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                                Dan Neely
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                                Read em and weep. Falsehood's programmers believe about names.[^] There's precisely zero chance that any functional system could meet all the nasty edge cases the human race has invented.

                                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                  Li Lian jie (Jet Li) and Lee Jun fan (Bruce Lee)

                                  You mean they are not called Jet Lee and Bruce Lee respectively?? :laugh:

                                  Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                                  Marco Bertschi
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                                  No, their real names are Jet Bruce and Lee Lee :-D

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                                    Read em and weep. Falsehood's programmers believe about names.[^] There's precisely zero chance that any functional system could meet all the nasty edge cases the human race has invented.

                                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                    Wamuti
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                                    Truly a nice read. Number forty (40) might not be an assumption. People do have names. You gotta call someone something. ;)

                                    Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                                    • M Marco Bertschi

                                      No, their real names are Jet Bruce and Lee Lee :-D

                                      The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                                      Wamuti
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                                      Just digging deeper on the Jet and Bruce saga, see this, http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061108005813AASz4pZ[^]

                                      Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

                                        --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                                        Vivi Chellappa
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                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

                                        So, do friends call him "Pubic Hair"? ;P Or, maybe Hairball?

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