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  • W Wamuti

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

    Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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    Dalek Dave
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    No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

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    • W Wamuti

      :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's pretty funny. Now I get why I never see any Chinese name composed of three parts. I thought it was only in the movies (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

      Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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      Marco Bertschi
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      Wamuti wrote:

      (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

      They are all brothers!

      The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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      • M Marco Bertschi

        My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

        The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        Stop yer bitchin - I got stuck with a clan name as well, and they insist it is on the passport so with the confusion of where the surname lives in Asia I can be called Mr and of 3 out of 4 names for some reason they NEVER use McKay, the clan name, weird.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        • M Marco Bertschi

          My full name is Marco Alessandro Bertschi - Marco is my first name, Bertschi the family name. Alessandro is a second first name (I don't use it normally, since I think it would make my name simply too long). I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

          The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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          Lost User
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          Marco Bertschi wrote:

          I like the idea of your father's name being your second first name.

          You should suggest it to your country ;)

          My Name in English[^] Translation done By OriginalGriff

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          • D Dalek Dave

            No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

            --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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            Wamuti
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            :laugh: :laugh: This is so humorous and informative! I'm hurting of laughter! You definitely made my Monday!

            Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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            • M Marco Bertschi

              Wamuti wrote:

              (Jet Lee, Bruce Lee, ... etc)

              They are all brothers!

              The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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              Wamuti
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              No, you are kidding! Right?:mad:

              Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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              • W Wamuti

                GuyThiebaut wrote:

                Just as there are no standard address formats there are no standard name formats.

                This is all bad at the back end, for a database being reviewed by different people in different cultures can e confusing.

                Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                GuyThiebaut
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                I remember working for a Spanish company - the address discussions took a few weeks to come to some sort of resolution considering our native database address representation worked for the US and UK.

                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                • W Wamuti

                  No, you are kidding! Right?:mad:

                  Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                  Marco Bertschi
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                  They have the same last name :laugh: :laugh:

                  The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                    Stop yer bitchin - I got stuck with a clan name as well, and they insist it is on the passport so with the confusion of where the surname lives in Asia I can be called Mr and of 3 out of 4 names for some reason they NEVER use McKay, the clan name, weird.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    Marco Bertschi
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                    Maybe they think it is sort of a shortened first name, McKayla for example ? :laugh: :laugh:

                    The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                    • M Marco Bertschi

                      They have the same last name :laugh: :laugh:

                      The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                      Atcherley, Li Lian jie (Jet Li) and Lee Jun fan (Bruce Lee) do actually have the same first name (李), but we ignorant Westerners spell one of them wrong. Gong Li confuses things even more, because Li is her forename, not her surname, and it's a completely different word (俐).

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                      • M Marco Bertschi

                        They have the same last name :laugh: :laugh:

                        The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                        Wamuti
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                        :laugh: :doh: Nice one .. Hadn't thought of it that way.. ;)

                        Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          Atcherley, Li Lian jie (Jet Li) and Lee Jun fan (Bruce Lee) do actually have the same first name (李), but we ignorant Westerners spell one of them wrong. Gong Li confuses things even more, because Li is her forename, not her surname, and it's a completely different word (俐).

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Wamuti
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                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          Li Lian jie (Jet Li) and Lee Jun fan (Bruce Lee)

                          You mean they are not called Jet Lee and Bruce Lee respectively?? :laugh:

                          Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                          • W Wamuti

                            It couldn't they standardize this? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006032413872[^]

                            Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                            Dan Neely
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                            Read em and weep. Falsehood's programmers believe about names.[^] There's precisely zero chance that any functional system could meet all the nasty edge cases the human race has invented.

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            • W Wamuti

                              Mark_Wallace wrote:

                              Li Lian jie (Jet Li) and Lee Jun fan (Bruce Lee)

                              You mean they are not called Jet Lee and Bruce Lee respectively?? :laugh:

                              Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                              Marco Bertschi
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                              No, their real names are Jet Bruce and Lee Lee :-D

                              The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                                Read em and weep. Falsehood's programmers believe about names.[^] There's precisely zero chance that any functional system could meet all the nasty edge cases the human race has invented.

                                Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                                Wamuti
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                                Truly a nice read. Number forty (40) might not be an assumption. People do have names. You gotta call someone something. ;)

                                Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                                • M Marco Bertschi

                                  No, their real names are Jet Bruce and Lee Lee :-D

                                  The busier I am, the more I procrastinate. - Chris "The Mighty" Maunder

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                                  Wamuti
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                                  Just digging deeper on the Jet and Bruce saga, see this, http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061108005813AASz4pZ[^]

                                  Wamuti: Any man can be an island, but islands to need water around them! Edmund Burke: No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    No, that is a totally different set of circumstances. Hong Kong people will have their full Chinese names but frequently adopt an English name for convenience. (Strangely, Peter and Wendy are the most common as Peter Pan was the first Western book translated into Cantonese). For example you would know a man called Peter Yip whose Chinese name was Yip Peng Lee. You would address him as Mr Yip, or, slightly informally as Peter. If you knew him well you could call him Lee, and if you were very close and had permission, Peng Lee. Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

                                    --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                                    Vivi Chellappa
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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    Mao Tse Tung means Little Cat Hair.

                                    So, do friends call him "Pubic Hair"? ;P Or, maybe Hairball?

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