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  • R Roger Wright

    Yup.. That's the stuff. :-D

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    Lost User
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    Ahh, good morning (at leat it is early morning here). I got this drivel from here[^]. While I don't enjoy JavaScript very much, I still have some assembly which I occasionally work on. The code I have posted is used to draw a bitmap patten at any screen coordinates. I use it for text output, but also can be used to draw sprites in a game. That's why ther also collison detection. :)

    Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5

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    • CPalliniC CPallini

      Amitosh S.M. wrote:

      blueprints

      Blueprints? :-)

      Veni, vidi, vici.

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      Rob Grainger
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      In the UK they are planning plain packaging on cigarette packets - just think of all the extra space for sketching designs such as these.

      "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Amitosh S.M. wrote:

        If I had a time machine, I would have gone to past and burnt the blueprints!!!

        I would go back even further and burned the original implementation of HTML! Marc

        Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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        Rob Grainger
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        Hear hear! (I could go into a similar rant about failing to learn from existing technologies to my SQL one they other day. In this case forerunners such as Doug Englebart (The Mother of all Demos), Ted Nelson (who coined the phrase Hypertext) and Apple's HyperCard. They really should stop these scientists hacking.

        "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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        • R Rob Grainger

          In the UK they are planning plain packaging on cigarette packets - just think of all the extra space for sketching designs such as these.

          "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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          CPallini
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          E. Majorana would have been happy.

          Veni, vidi, vici.

          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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          • L Lost User

            It would be better to say that JavaScript is the new C64 BASIC. It's just as fast, efficient and fun to debug as any old interpreter and allows any {place insulting word of choice here] who was too dumb to understand object orientation or get used to data types to freely create programing horrors. (*) Cool-Aid of the day. Have a big cup. :)

            Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5

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            Andrei Straut
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            CDP1802 wrote:

            allows any {place insulting word of choice here]

            I believe that code block is not properly closed. I don't think you would want to debug that kind of error in a Javascript file...

            This isn't a signature

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            • R Rob Grainger

              Hear hear! (I could go into a similar rant about failing to learn from existing technologies to my SQL one they other day. In this case forerunners such as Doug Englebart (The Mother of all Demos), Ted Nelson (who coined the phrase Hypertext) and Apple's HyperCard. They really should stop these scientists hacking.

              "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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              Marc Clifton
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              Rob Grainger wrote:

              and Apple's HyperCard.

              I actually wish HyperCard was still around - I guess we have PowerPoint nowadays, but it's really not the same thing. One day I'll get back to working on http://app.intertexti.com/[^], my resurrection attempt (sort of.) ;) Marc

              Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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              • CPalliniC CPallini

                Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                blueprints

                Blueprints? :-)

                Veni, vidi, vici.

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                CPallini wrote:

                Blueprints?

                Something used in Medieval times (My sophomore year of college) to make inexpensive copies of plans. Huge sheets of paper were used to create drawings of a design. (Written by hand, in pencil. Computers did exist, but were rather mythical. The head office was rumored to have one!) Another sheet the same size was immersed in chemicals was placed up to the plan, a special light was shined through both. The pencil marks blocked the light, the rest of the paper reacted to the light and turned blue, while the blocked portions remained white. In ancient times, this was the way structures were built. To this day, any kind of plan in any kind of medium is still called a blueprint by a fair segment of the population. (Mostly by people who have actually seen a blueprint or were infected by the people who still call it that.)

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Amitosh S.M. wrote:

                  If I had a time machine, I would have gone to past and burnt the blueprints!!!

                  I would go back even further and burned the original implementation of HTML! Marc

                  Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                  KP Lee
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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  I would go back even further

                  Hate to tell you this, but blueprints predate HTML about a hundred years. You would have to go back even sooner.

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                    CPallini wrote:

                    Blueprints?

                    Something used in Medieval times (My sophomore year of college) to make inexpensive copies of plans. Huge sheets of paper were used to create drawings of a design. (Written by hand, in pencil. Computers did exist, but were rather mythical. The head office was rumored to have one!) Another sheet the same size was immersed in chemicals was placed up to the plan, a special light was shined through both. The pencil marks blocked the light, the rest of the paper reacted to the light and turned blue, while the blocked portions remained white. In ancient times, this was the way structures were built. To this day, any kind of plan in any kind of medium is still called a blueprint by a fair segment of the population. (Mostly by people who have actually seen a blueprint or were infected by the people who still call it that.)

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                    CPallini
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                    I know that. However it would imply there were a plan behind JavaScript. :-D

                    Veni, vidi, vici.

                    In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                    • K KP Lee

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      I would go back even further

                      Hate to tell you this, but blueprints predate HTML about a hundred years. You would have to go back even sooner.

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                      KP Lee wrote:

                      but blueprints predate HTML about a hundred years.

                      Harhar. Well, then we might as well go back to the discovery of the wheel. Or better yet, fire. ;) Marc

                      Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                      • A Andrei Straut

                        CDP1802 wrote:

                        allows any {place insulting word of choice here]

                        I believe that code block is not properly closed. I don't think you would want to debug that kind of error in a Javascript file...

                        This isn't a signature

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                        KP Lee
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                        Andrei Straut wrote:

                        I believe that code block is not properly closed

                        For a computer compiler probably, but even there you could code "{]" or "[}" as a pair of opening and closing braces.

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                        • CPalliniC CPallini

                          I know that. However it would imply there were a plan behind JavaScript. :-D

                          Veni, vidi, vici.

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                          KP Lee
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                          There definitely were plans behind JavaScript, but then you got people like me with no object oriented training picking it up and using it. Worked fine for what I needed, didn't even need to recognize there was OOP intent in the design.

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            KP Lee wrote:

                            but blueprints predate HTML about a hundred years.

                            Harhar. Well, then we might as well go back to the discovery of the wheel. Or better yet, fire. ;) Marc

                            Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                            KP Lee
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                            Sorry, misstated that, I intended that when you were moving back in time you would have to hit the breaks sooner to hit just before HTML. IE less distance back in time, not more. I may have also totally misread what you said. By the way, since you want something better than HTML at a time when HTML was a trailblazing concept, how would you go about convincing the designer "your" idea is better?

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                              It would be better to say that JavaScript is the new C64 BASIC. It's just as fast, efficient and fun to debug as any old interpreter and allows any {place insulting word of choice here] who was too dumb to understand object orientation or get used to data types to freely create programing horrors. (*) Cool-Aid of the day. Have a big cup. :)

                              Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5

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                              BotReject
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                              I think that's why I like JS so much - it reminds me of the C64. However, I wouldn't use it for large applications, but scripts of a few hundred or thousand lines or so are fun to code in JS. I like OOP too, though I often think it's an overkill on simple scripts. I suppose as a hobbyist I don't have to deal with a hundred thousand lines plus of code, which would probably change my perspective.

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                              • K KP Lee

                                Sorry, misstated that, I intended that when you were moving back in time you would have to hit the breaks sooner to hit just before HTML. IE less distance back in time, not more. I may have also totally misread what you said. By the way, since you want something better than HTML at a time when HTML was a trailblazing concept, how would you go about convincing the designer "your" idea is better?

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                KP Lee wrote:

                                how would you go about convincing the designer "your" idea is better?

                                By bringing a laptop back with me and showing him the nightmare that web development has become. ;) Marc

                                Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                                  KP Lee wrote:

                                  how would you go about convincing the designer "your" idea is better?

                                  By bringing a laptop back with me and showing him the nightmare that web development has become. ;) Marc

                                  Day 1: Spider Database Navigator Unit Testing Succinctly

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                                  KP Lee
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                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  ...showing him the nightmare...

                                  HTML is a simple markup language, originally designed to provide a reporting process over the web, it isn't complex enough to make the web a nightmare. You can't really lay the web environment we have now at its feet.

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