Your LG television is spying on you
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RyanDev wrote:
If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.
My usual response to that is, "So, you won't mind if the police show up without a warrant and start rummaging through your closets, inspecting your sock drawer and making copies of your computer hard drives. I mean, if you aren't doing anything wrong...."
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RyanDev wrote:
If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.
My usual response to that is, "So, you won't mind if the police show up without a warrant and start rummaging through your closets, inspecting your sock drawer and making copies of your computer hard drives. I mean, if you aren't doing anything wrong...."
If the executives at LG had the power to invade my home and look in my sock drawer I'd be worried about the spying. As it stands now, if I catch an executive of LG looking through my sock drawer I could probably get away with shooting him. However, the police have a long history of violating basic civil rights - so no sock drawer for them.
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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising. So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards, Rob Philpott.
I'm sure that sort of thing goes on all the time. I just get my revenge by prancing about naked in front of the built in web cam. I figure the medical expenses they incur for traumatized employees should make us even.
Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer
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So the government spying on you is cool but not a company that makes electronics?
CPallini wrote:
You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:
Damn right. Who do you think has the real power? :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer
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Just don't connect it to the internet, or, configure your router to not allow out-going connections to LG. You can use fiddler to find the ip to block.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
don't connect it to the internet
Mine isn't. And the cable is connected through an ancient VCR; the TV stays set to channel 4. :cool:
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
It's OK, because it sends your data to the Korean government
Um. North? South? Or both? Because one of them I'd be worried about! :laugh:
As long as you don't dance on your TV[^], you should be safe.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising. So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards, Rob Philpott.
Rob Philpott wrote:
I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me
I have felt I have been in the minority of the awareness for a long time now. Seems the public has finally woken up. Too little too late. Look around you. Gone are the days of a private life. For better or worse as time goes on each individuals private life will become more and more monitored be it for profits or in the name of security. The fact is nothing will stop this snowball. Privacy is dead. At this point it is like pointing out that it is cold in the winter. You have choices as an individual. Turn your furnace to up or suffer through the cold winter. Stop using digital services or kiss your privacy good bye. Your choice. Even if a different service provider comes along claiming security and privacy, there is no obligation for them to remain that way after they have their customer base. In fact, legally speaking they can even collect your data and simply use a crafty EULA hiding this fact for a long long time.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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I'm sure that sort of thing goes on all the time. I just get my revenge by prancing about naked in front of the built in web cam. I figure the medical expenses they incur for traumatized employees should make us even.
Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer
mind bleach please :)
Charlie Gilley You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house. "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising. So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards, Rob Philpott.
Hah I love it, some poor bastard is being bored to death tracking my viewing information. I think I'll also take up naked dancing, although I may be sued for visual atrocities.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising. So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards, Rob Philpott.
The government spying is fine....they're a bunch of straight up guys, from the makers of The Cold War, death squads in Northern Ireland, IRS persecution, Obamathugcare, mass artificial starvation in Russia and China, the Gulag, the KGB(still called the KGB in Belorus - they have this whole 'retro' vibe going on, wonderful). Everything Hitler did was legal. Corporations - bad guys that bring you your Apples, TV's, Radios, Cars, HP Slates and Desktops, Hitachi drives, Coca Cola. Yeah, I don't trust them not to want to make money for an instant. But seriously, ever since Public Private Partnerships were invented in the 90's, the Government is the Corporations, the Corporations are the government. :(
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That I think is one step too far
If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about. Nice sweater by the way. It looks good on you.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
That depends on your definition of 'wrong'. The problem is, first and foremost, it is a violation of the 4th Amendment in the US. If the gov't suddenly decides that owning books is 'wrong', or having cats is wrong, or that more than one computer means you have too much money, so they'll come take one of the computers, and garnish your wages.. Are you still ok with it then?
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That depends on your definition of 'wrong'. The problem is, first and foremost, it is a violation of the 4th Amendment in the US. If the gov't suddenly decides that owning books is 'wrong', or having cats is wrong, or that more than one computer means you have too much money, so they'll come take one of the computers, and garnish your wages.. Are you still ok with it then?
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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising. So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards, Rob Philpott.
Cell phone as well as telephone companies always know where you are and have a good idea what you're doing. Your average store-bought computer has been spying on you since the mid-1990's when the Internet really got going. TV cable boxes having been reporting on you since the 1980's when cable began. Nielsen ratings for TV began in 1950 practically as soon as television became widespread. Nielsen adapted TV ratings from radio ratings that began in the 1930's and which was adapted from market analysis in the 1920's. This has been happening for about 100 years or more. It should be no surprise that LG has jumped on the bandwagon. Thus, there is no step too far. There is only the erosion of freedoms which you allow.
Jim Wilson
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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising. So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards, Rob Philpott.
If true, that would be an invasion of my privacy. However, my LG TV is stupid and doesn't have an internet connection, so it can't send anything anywhere.
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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising. So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards, Rob Philpott.
That's the reason number one why I don't connect any appliance that doesn't need it to the internet.
CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...
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Rob Philpott wrote:
sending the information back to LG
How?
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Well it's a little scumbaggy but why is corporate use worse than government use? They're just corporations, what are they going to do, at worst? Make some money? Governments can make you disappear. </tinfoilhat>
Anything the corporations collect about you is freely available to anybody claiming to be from "the government" or willing to pay them for it. To be honest, I'm actually less worried about our (US) government having that information. There's laws that define what they can and can't do that we citizens can influence. If they overstep them, we get to hold their feet to the figurative fire -- the current flap with the NSA is a good example of this. Corporations, on the other hand, get to define their own behaviors that are backed with the force of (US) law -- they're called policies. They're allowed to change them, users have no influence over what the policies are, and the companies generally give themselves permission to change their policies at any time and without any notification to the users. Worse, users have no resource unless the company has violated its own policy and hasn't gotten around to changing it yet. Corporations with my data are far scarier than governments.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising. So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards, Rob Philpott.
Reminds me of the Cold War joke:Q: "What's the difference between the USA and the USSR?" A:"In the USA people watch television. In the USSR television watches the people." Just sayin'.
"To do is to be." [Descartes] "To be is to do." [Voltaire] "Do be do be do..."[Frank Sinatra]
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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising. So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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It's OK, because it sends your data to the Korean government, and they can't do anything with it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Well...... they might not be able or willing to use it directly, but they can do worse... they can sell it to the Chinese....
