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Can anyone or anything teach me ASP.NET MVC in 15 days?

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  • W William Emmanual

    No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

    Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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    Mike Hankey
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    Ok I'll start MVC means "Move Very Cautiously" that's all I got.

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    • W William Emmanual

      Thanks I'll try - 10 days of free training seems good, will try to get some funding for the full package. Also as someone suggested Agile sounds good, will attempt to convince my team about that too.

      Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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      David C Hobbyist
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      William Emmanual wrote:

      Also as someone suggested Agile sounds good

      I could be wrong, but I think he was joking. Again good luck.

      David

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      • W William Emmanual

        No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

        Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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        Tarek Elqusi
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        I don't think this is achievable unless they had had strong training before !

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        • W William Emmanual

          No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

          Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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          Rutvik Dave
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          Do a quick meeting with your team, see if everyone is willing to learn the new concept. Once everyone agrees, I am sure your team could learn the concept of MVC in few days, and after that they should work on a very small project using MVC (it is very important, not just jump in after only reading and watching stuff, you need to try it out). And after 15 Days, check where everyone stands and then, you all can just jump in with the new Project that your Client/Boss wants with extra days of buffer in the timeline. It is lot of work, but it's possible. And if you think that after 15 days of trying, the whole thing is not working, just say 'no' with facts and reasons. People respect when you say 'no' with proper justification. IMHO: for learning, read a book. It's OK if you don't read the whole book and only first few chapters. But before you start watching videos, you should read a book. You should learn the basic concepts thoroughly and only a book can teach you in a detail. Good luck. :)

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            Do a quick meeting with your team, see if everyone is willing to learn the new concept. Once everyone agrees, I am sure your team could learn the concept of MVC in few days, and after that they should work on a very small project using MVC (it is very important, not just jump in after only reading and watching stuff, you need to try it out). And after 15 Days, check where everyone stands and then, you all can just jump in with the new Project that your Client/Boss wants with extra days of buffer in the timeline. It is lot of work, but it's possible. And if you think that after 15 days of trying, the whole thing is not working, just say 'no' with facts and reasons. People respect when you say 'no' with proper justification. IMHO: for learning, read a book. It's OK if you don't read the whole book and only first few chapters. But before you start watching videos, you should read a book. You should learn the basic concepts thoroughly and only a book can teach you in a detail. Good luck. :)

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            Tarek Elqusi
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            good advice, thx for posting

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            • W William Emmanual

              No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

              Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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              0bx
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              I jumped in my first MVC 4 project without any special preparations. My colleague was already a bit familiar with the framework and he started to work on the project alone, but due to circumstances he couldn't make the deadline so I was called in to help out where I could and finish. He explained the basics and I also found some tutorials online. Both of us made some mistakes, most common mistake was not following naming conventions (which is btw really important if you want to take full advantage of the framework). At the end it turned out okay. It wasn't a frustrating first experience and it didn't take long before it felt right. Also, to jump in an application that was already partly finished helped a lot because you have some examples from which you can build on.

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              • W William Emmanual

                No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

                Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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                Super Lloyd
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                Do the tutorials[^], they are quite good! Worked for me! ;) Ho yeah, and follow by making a simple sample web site!

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                • W William Emmanual

                  No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

                  Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Immediately order this[^] and this[^]; apply both concurrently. Once your team has finished both, all will be "MVC ready" enough to find a job working for a rational boss.

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                    Go Agile, it will help solve any problem you may have, lack of time, insufficient funding, or support from The Client (Please dont forget to "Stand up" in the meetings)

                    dev

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                    Rutvik Dave
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                    :laugh:

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                    • W William Emmanual

                      Thanks I'll try - 10 days of free training seems good, will try to get some funding for the full package. Also as someone suggested Agile sounds good, will attempt to convince my team about that too.

                      Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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                      Rutvik Dave
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                      William Emmanual wrote:

                      Also as someone suggested Agile

                      Since you are new here, that was a joke. Many people here often joke about stuff without using joke icon / smiley, it's their lame effort to attempt a dry british humor, which confuses rest of the 'normal' people. :-D

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                      • W William Emmanual

                        No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

                        Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        I second PluralSight and the tutorials at asp.net (Microsoft's ASP .NET portal).  However, you may want to consider face-to-face instructor led training for your team.  See Learning Tree[^], for example. /ravi

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                        • G Gary R Wheeler

                          Boy, have you drunk the Kool-Aid™.

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                          It's Carlsberg this weekend

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                          • R Rutvik Dave

                            Do a quick meeting with your team, see if everyone is willing to learn the new concept. Once everyone agrees, I am sure your team could learn the concept of MVC in few days, and after that they should work on a very small project using MVC (it is very important, not just jump in after only reading and watching stuff, you need to try it out). And after 15 Days, check where everyone stands and then, you all can just jump in with the new Project that your Client/Boss wants with extra days of buffer in the timeline. It is lot of work, but it's possible. And if you think that after 15 days of trying, the whole thing is not working, just say 'no' with facts and reasons. People respect when you say 'no' with proper justification. IMHO: for learning, read a book. It's OK if you don't read the whole book and only first few chapters. But before you start watching videos, you should read a book. You should learn the basic concepts thoroughly and only a book can teach you in a detail. Good luck. :)

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                            Kevin McFarlane
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                            Rutvik Dave wrote:

                            for learning, read a book. It's OK if you don't read the whole book and only first few chapters. But before you start watching videos, you should read a book. You should learn the basic concepts thoroughly and only a book can teach you in a detail.

                            I find the combination of reading and watching to be better than either alone. I somehow seem to pick up different things from videos than I do from reading (and vice-versa).

                            Kevin

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                            • W William Emmanual

                              No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

                              Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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                              R Giskard Reventlov
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                              William Emmanual wrote:

                              I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days!

                              What is the rationale for doing so? I started looking at MVC5 about a week or 2 ago and have been 'experimenting' with it on and off and it doesn't appear too difficult: it's just making the transition to a new way of doing things that takes a little time. I'm sure that as I get deeper into a 'proper' application I will be googling and cping quite a bit!

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                              • W William Emmanual

                                No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

                                Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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                                Joe Woodbury
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                                There is a difference between being "MVC ready" and "MVC proficient." MVC is one of those things where it can be quite a nightmare if the software designed wrong (in other words MVC done badly is much worse than no MVC at all.) Besides, isn't MVVM the big thing now?

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                                • W William Emmanual

                                  No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

                                  Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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                                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                  William Emmanual wrote:

                                  I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days

                                  If you have previous experience with web programming and .NET, 15 days should be more than enough.

                                  utf8-cpp

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                                  • J Joe Woodbury

                                    There is a difference between being "MVC ready" and "MVC proficient." MVC is one of those things where it can be quite a nightmare if the software designed wrong (in other words MVC done badly is much worse than no MVC at all.) Besides, isn't MVVM the big thing now?

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                                    Mycroft Holmes
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                                    Joe Woodbury wrote:

                                    Besides, isn't MVVM the big thing now

                                    Where would you apply MVVM to a web technology now that Silverlight has been deprecated?

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    • W William Emmanual

                                      No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

                                      Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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                                      Mycroft Holmes
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                                      And continue to do the jobs you are currently involved in full time I suppose. Is this person going to give you 3 weeks full time commitment to learning and is he going to fund the resource to help. I think it will depend where you are coming from, if you are currently in ASP.net/javascript/CSS then it should be achievable. We are coming from Silverlight and xaml so the learning curve is dramatically greater.

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      • W William Emmanual

                                        No seriously! I have been asked to upgrade my entire team to "MVC ready" in 15 days! :confused: So any and all help will be appreciated!

                                        Kind Regards, - Will william@enziq.com www.enziq.com

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                                        Try the nerd dinner tutorial. It's the "Hello World" for ASP.NET MVC. It was written with MVC 1.0, but should still work nicely. It's how I learned, and the concepts are really nice and clear. Also, Nerd Dinner is maintained at codeplex.com, where you can, after taking the tutorial, take a look at how the enhancements since MVC 1 have come into play. The Nerd Dinner tutorial can be found here: http://aspnetmvcbook.s3.amazonaws.com/aspnetmvc-nerdinner_v1.pdf[^] You should be able to complete it within a day or two and have a great foundation for being MVC ready.

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                                          Joe Woodbury wrote:

                                          Besides, isn't MVVM the big thing now

                                          Where would you apply MVVM to a web technology now that Silverlight has been deprecated?

                                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                          Use KnockoutJs for your ViewModel HTML for your view POCO for your Models and web services accessed via Ajax to stich them together NO need for any of that Web Forms or MVC rubbish

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