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5 year Gap in dev career , how to recover it now ?

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  • F fatema

    How to get back on track ? I know C#( worked for a year ), I was really good in C during student life (Computer science and engineering grad) as well. Now want to do MVC, very little knowledge of HTML and CSS. Can anyone give me some idea how to make myself fit for a job by Jan'2014 ?? its not a joke. (I am jobless at the moment ). by the way I am in UK.

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    Ravi Bhavnani
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    In addition to what Richard (and others) said, I recommend building a non-trivial (start simple, then add complexity) web app that you can host at a cheap ASP .NET host in order to be able to demo to a potential employer.  Nothing says "I can code" like demonstratable running code. Good luck! :thumbsup: /ravi

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    • F fatema

      How to get back on track ? I know C#( worked for a year ), I was really good in C during student life (Computer science and engineering grad) as well. Now want to do MVC, very little knowledge of HTML and CSS. Can anyone give me some idea how to make myself fit for a job by Jan'2014 ?? its not a joke. (I am jobless at the moment ). by the way I am in UK.

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      Mike Hankey
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      It's very difficult to get caught up you have to work twice as hard and be very devoted. As OP has said take a junior position and work hard. I took a 10 year hiatus and have partially caught up but it took me a couple of years and there's still a lot I didn't have time for. Good luck

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      • F fatema

        How to get back on track ? I know C#( worked for a year ), I was really good in C during student life (Computer science and engineering grad) as well. Now want to do MVC, very little knowledge of HTML and CSS. Can anyone give me some idea how to make myself fit for a job by Jan'2014 ?? its not a joke. (I am jobless at the moment ). by the way I am in UK.

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        Go through these links : http://www.codeproject.com/search.aspx?q=tag%3aMVC+beginners&doctypeid=1%3b2%3b3%3b13%3b9%3b10%3b14[^] MVC beginners [Google search][^] Try to understand the basics. Implement the examples. That will be enough for you.

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        • R Ravi Bhavnani

          In addition to what Richard (and others) said, I recommend building a non-trivial (start simple, then add complexity) web app that you can host at a cheap ASP .NET host in order to be able to demo to a potential employer.  Nothing says "I can code" like demonstratable running code. Good luck! :thumbsup: /ravi

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          Mike Hankey
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          That does help and also articles on here. Helped me land me my last job before retiring.

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          • F fatema

            How to get back on track ? I know C#( worked for a year ), I was really good in C during student life (Computer science and engineering grad) as well. Now want to do MVC, very little knowledge of HTML and CSS. Can anyone give me some idea how to make myself fit for a job by Jan'2014 ?? its not a joke. (I am jobless at the moment ). by the way I am in UK.

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            fatema wrote:

            Now want to do MVC

            Some one asked similar question for his team recently, check it out. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4708240/Can-anyone-or-anything-teach-me-ASP-NET-MVC-in-15-.aspx[^] and Education Needed[^]

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            • R Ravi Bhavnani

              In addition to what Richard (and others) said, I recommend building a non-trivial (start simple, then add complexity) web app that you can host at a cheap ASP .NET host in order to be able to demo to a potential employer.  Nothing says "I can code" like demonstratable running code. Good luck! :thumbsup: /ravi

              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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              great

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                fatema wrote:

                Now want to do MVC

                Some one asked similar question for his team recently, check it out. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4708240/Can-anyone-or-anything-teach-me-ASP-NET-MVC-in-15-.aspx[^] and Education Needed[^]

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                fatema
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                have seen it , though need some more ideas.

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                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                  In addition to what Richard (and others) said, I recommend building a non-trivial (start simple, then add complexity) web app that you can host at a cheap ASP .NET host in order to be able to demo to a potential employer.  Nothing says "I can code" like demonstratable running code. Good luck! :thumbsup: /ravi

                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  fatema
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                  thank you , seems so much realistic. :)

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                  • F fatema

                    have seen it , though need some more ideas.

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                    Other members already suggested enough ideas. Check this bunch for web related things Beginner's Walk - Web Development[^] and buy/rent few books from this bunch Useful Reference Books[^] That's it.

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                    • T thatraja

                      Other members already suggested enough ideas. Check this bunch for web related things Beginner's Walk - Web Development[^] and buy/rent few books from this bunch Useful Reference Books[^] That's it.

                      thatraja

                      Code converters | Education Needed | Plans

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                      seems really for me , reference artical. thank you.

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                      • F fatema

                        How to get back on track ? I know C#( worked for a year ), I was really good in C during student life (Computer science and engineering grad) as well. Now want to do MVC, very little knowledge of HTML and CSS. Can anyone give me some idea how to make myself fit for a job by Jan'2014 ?? its not a joke. (I am jobless at the moment ). by the way I am in UK.

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                        At the end of the day, what hiring managers really care about are a) Can you get the job done b) Are you dependable, honest and a good guy to work with The advice here is solid. Get your skills brushed up, be honest and take any junior gig you can get. That gets you back in the game. Once you have a seat at the table and your tech skills are back where they should be, you can always look for another gig at a more realistic pay rate.

                        Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                          At the end of the day, what hiring managers really care about are a) Can you get the job done b) Are you dependable, honest and a good guy to work with The advice here is solid. Get your skills brushed up, be honest and take any junior gig you can get. That gets you back in the game. Once you have a seat at the table and your tech skills are back where they should be, you can always look for another gig at a more realistic pay rate.

                          Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                          fatema
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                          your advice is solid, even for the junior roles interview technical skills that all companies care for. so no chance to get somethings unless I am really have skill that up and running.

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                          • F fatema

                            How to get back on track ? I know C#( worked for a year ), I was really good in C during student life (Computer science and engineering grad) as well. Now want to do MVC, very little knowledge of HTML and CSS. Can anyone give me some idea how to make myself fit for a job by Jan'2014 ?? its not a joke. (I am jobless at the moment ). by the way I am in UK.

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                            If you were out of work entirely, you'll need to be able to explain at some level why that happened and give potential employers reason to believe you're serious about returning to the workforce and won't end up bailing on them shortly after being hired. Local legislation may, and probably does, set limits beyond which a potential employer isn't allowed to ask; but I can't offer any guidance on what UK law says about the matter. If you were working in a different field, you'll similarly need to be able to answer questions about what drove your shifts.

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              If I were you, based on your description here, I'd apply for junior level development positions. However, as you have very little knowledge of HTML and CSS, I would recommend that you buy some good books and spend a lot of time catching up on MVC, HTML and CSS, as well as C#.

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                              This is good advice, even low level computer jobs pay good compared to other options. Also, after you have a year or 2 under your belt with a new 'junior' job, don't stay satisfied at that position, start moving up, or move to another company. In just a few short years, everyone will forget about that 'missing' time period when your career had a false start. Edit: I learn the most new skills when I start a new job. Just getting the job is 90% of the work. At the new job, always ask to work on the project that uses the technology you most want to learn for your career.

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                              • F fatema

                                How to get back on track ? I know C#( worked for a year ), I was really good in C during student life (Computer science and engineering grad) as well. Now want to do MVC, very little knowledge of HTML and CSS. Can anyone give me some idea how to make myself fit for a job by Jan'2014 ?? its not a joke. (I am jobless at the moment ). by the way I am in UK.

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                                Free of charge ebooks from Microsoft ... Plenty content to keep you busy including MVC http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mssmallbiz/archive/2012/07/27/large-collection-of-free-microsoft-ebooks-for-you-including-sharepoint-visual-studio-windows-phone-windows-8-office-365-office-2010-sql-server-2012-azure-and-more.aspx[^] and http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mssmallbiz/archive/2012/07/30/another-large-collection-of-free-microsoft-ebooks-and-resource-kits-for-you-including-sharepoint-2013-office-2013-office-365-duet-2-0-azure-cloud-windows-phone-lync-dynamics-crm-and-more.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0[^]

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                                • F fatema

                                  your advice is solid, even for the junior roles interview technical skills that all companies care for. so no chance to get somethings unless I am really have skill that up and running.

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                                  fatema wrote:

                                  even for the junior roles interview technical skills that all companies care for

                                  Not necessarily. I have a job doing MVC, HTML, JQuery, C#, SQL. Of those, the only skills I brought in were C# and SQL (and I was 2 generations behind on those). I had 0 experience doing any web development at all. What matters is can you communicate with technical people in a technical way, and believe it or not... first impression (do they like you) matters a lot, even before you start the interview.

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                                  • F fatema

                                    How to get back on track ? I know C#( worked for a year ), I was really good in C during student life (Computer science and engineering grad) as well. Now want to do MVC, very little knowledge of HTML and CSS. Can anyone give me some idea how to make myself fit for a job by Jan'2014 ?? its not a joke. (I am jobless at the moment ). by the way I am in UK.

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                                    Cristian Amarie
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                                    Good at C? Linux or AV company. As long as you're on the fortunate 0.1% understanding what an *(unsigned char *)buffer++ = '\0'; is, or how to revert a single linked list, you're good to go. The rest is experience - that won't come from a resume. Start checking a (beginner) position [^] on either C# or C, whatever fits you better. Best line from "Finding Forrester" when Sean Connery tells to the youngster how to write: "No thinking - that comes later. You must write your first draft with your heart. You rewrite with your head. The first key to writing is… to write, not to think!" Seems pretty good when programming, too. (That if you'll not be too busy doing meetings instead of coding, of course).

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                                    • F fatema

                                      your advice is solid, even for the junior roles interview technical skills that all companies care for. so no chance to get somethings unless I am really have skill that up and running.

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                                      The bottom line for any job is that you have to be able to deliver the goods, so first on your list is getting your skills up to par. You might consider taking whatever kind of non tech job that you can get right now just to keep the bills paid. Above and beyond getting the money you need to survive, a priority would be making sure you can work 40 hours and be done, giving you the time you need after work to study, code and get your programming skills polished. You might also consider looking for a very small scale volunteer project as you study. Perhaps some non profit organization or local hobby / special interest group that needs a web site but has no technical capabilities. This gives you a real world app to work on as you learn (which I always find more educational than just doing book examples), but it also gives you something to put on your resume with that skill set. Once you're ready, update the resume and look for a junior level job to get you back into the game. When you find it, you give the temp job two weeks notice (always be a professional even if it's washing dishes), and off you go. It's not something you'll get done by January, but depending how hard you study, you could still be back in the coding biz in a matter of months.

                                      Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                                        Good at C? Linux or AV company. As long as you're on the fortunate 0.1% understanding what an *(unsigned char *)buffer++ = '\0'; is, or how to revert a single linked list, you're good to go. The rest is experience - that won't come from a resume. Start checking a (beginner) position [^] on either C# or C, whatever fits you better. Best line from "Finding Forrester" when Sean Connery tells to the youngster how to write: "No thinking - that comes later. You must write your first draft with your heart. You rewrite with your head. The first key to writing is… to write, not to think!" Seems pretty good when programming, too. (That if you'll not be too busy doing meetings instead of coding, of course).

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                                        Cristian Amarie wrote:

                                        *(unsigned char *)buffer++ = '\0';

                                        Man, I miss the days when C / C++ ruled the Earth. I miss the dinosaurs, too. Just not as much. They always made a mess of my front yard.

                                        Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                                        • F fatema

                                          How to get back on track ? I know C#( worked for a year ), I was really good in C during student life (Computer science and engineering grad) as well. Now want to do MVC, very little knowledge of HTML and CSS. Can anyone give me some idea how to make myself fit for a job by Jan'2014 ?? its not a joke. (I am jobless at the moment ). by the way I am in UK.

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                                          The big question is, what have you been doing for five years? Is it something that will lend itself to being useful in a new position? Something worthy of putting on your resume, or have you been in the big-house?

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