How do I change the experience on my resume without it looking weak?
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It was a schmiddy, and light beer at that.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Hello, all. I'm new here, and have a resume question. I warn you, this will be long. I've been on the job hunt since being laid off in August. However, a new fear has cropped up that has me truly shaken. I feel I am exaggerating my experience on my resume. I've heard this is the type of stuff that can get you blacklisted from a company. I want to change it. It's one section; the skills section at the top. In it, I say that I have extensive experience with C++, Visual Basic, and SQL. I also say that I have experience integrating database interaction into VB applications. Everything else in the resume is standard. The truth is that my experience with those is mostly from Community College and University. I listed those as "extensive" because of all the languages I ran across in CC and Uni, those are the ones I handled the most. I did integrate DBs into VB apps, but that was in a class (and a volunteer spot, using VBA). Since graduating with my Bachelor's Degree (Computer Information Systems) 2 years ago, I haven't coded much at all on my own time. Since then, I had a job for almost a year and a half, but they had me mostly doing stuff in FoxPro. I might have done .Net work there once or twice. Since my layoff, I've been looking for work, but have recently shifted to learning C# in order to perhaps build a project I can show to the world in a portfolio. I'm not nearly at that level yet though. I've also realized I'm not at the level with C++/VB where "extensive experience" is justified to say. Not with my level of rust. So, for now, I'm trying to change what that skills section says. But how can I address a lack of experience without seeming weak?
It helps to have a solid article (with your code) on CodeProject, showcasing your original work. When I was looking out to for a change, I quoted a couple of my CodeProject articles on my resume; my current employer looked at that code, and I believe, was convinced enough. Of course, you need to work on an original problem, making sure that none of the work done for your past employers is getting posted. Also, I feel that employers look for problem solving capabilities using a language, rather than expertise in that language itself (unless it is a compiler company you're applying for).
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It was a schmiddy, and light beer at that.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Hello, all. I'm new here, and have a resume question. I warn you, this will be long. I've been on the job hunt since being laid off in August. However, a new fear has cropped up that has me truly shaken. I feel I am exaggerating my experience on my resume. I've heard this is the type of stuff that can get you blacklisted from a company. I want to change it. It's one section; the skills section at the top. In it, I say that I have extensive experience with C++, Visual Basic, and SQL. I also say that I have experience integrating database interaction into VB applications. Everything else in the resume is standard. The truth is that my experience with those is mostly from Community College and University. I listed those as "extensive" because of all the languages I ran across in CC and Uni, those are the ones I handled the most. I did integrate DBs into VB apps, but that was in a class (and a volunteer spot, using VBA). Since graduating with my Bachelor's Degree (Computer Information Systems) 2 years ago, I haven't coded much at all on my own time. Since then, I had a job for almost a year and a half, but they had me mostly doing stuff in FoxPro. I might have done .Net work there once or twice. Since my layoff, I've been looking for work, but have recently shifted to learning C# in order to perhaps build a project I can show to the world in a portfolio. I'm not nearly at that level yet though. I've also realized I'm not at the level with C++/VB where "extensive experience" is justified to say. Not with my level of rust. So, for now, I'm trying to change what that skills section says. But how can I address a lack of experience without seeming weak?
'Qualified and trained in C++, Visual Basic and SQL.' 'Commercial experience in FoxPro and .Net' Currently gaining experience in........ ? You should be working on home projects for the last one. The world is your oyster. Just supplying a piece of paper and saying 'yes please' will not get you employment.
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Hello, all. I'm new here, and have a resume question. I warn you, this will be long. I've been on the job hunt since being laid off in August. However, a new fear has cropped up that has me truly shaken. I feel I am exaggerating my experience on my resume. I've heard this is the type of stuff that can get you blacklisted from a company. I want to change it. It's one section; the skills section at the top. In it, I say that I have extensive experience with C++, Visual Basic, and SQL. I also say that I have experience integrating database interaction into VB applications. Everything else in the resume is standard. The truth is that my experience with those is mostly from Community College and University. I listed those as "extensive" because of all the languages I ran across in CC and Uni, those are the ones I handled the most. I did integrate DBs into VB apps, but that was in a class (and a volunteer spot, using VBA). Since graduating with my Bachelor's Degree (Computer Information Systems) 2 years ago, I haven't coded much at all on my own time. Since then, I had a job for almost a year and a half, but they had me mostly doing stuff in FoxPro. I might have done .Net work there once or twice. Since my layoff, I've been looking for work, but have recently shifted to learning C# in order to perhaps build a project I can show to the world in a portfolio. I'm not nearly at that level yet though. I've also realized I'm not at the level with C++/VB where "extensive experience" is justified to say. Not with my level of rust. So, for now, I'm trying to change what that skills section says. But how can I address a lack of experience without seeming weak?
Instead of "extensive", you may use "experienced/skillfull in" something. In my opinion, the experience gained from course work is considered to be good experience as long as you are confident for what you learned. Certainly it might not be the real business world solution you coded. But the technology involved and skills required are all applicable to the real world.
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Hello, all. I'm new here, and have a resume question. I warn you, this will be long. I've been on the job hunt since being laid off in August. However, a new fear has cropped up that has me truly shaken. I feel I am exaggerating my experience on my resume. I've heard this is the type of stuff that can get you blacklisted from a company. I want to change it. It's one section; the skills section at the top. In it, I say that I have extensive experience with C++, Visual Basic, and SQL. I also say that I have experience integrating database interaction into VB applications. Everything else in the resume is standard. The truth is that my experience with those is mostly from Community College and University. I listed those as "extensive" because of all the languages I ran across in CC and Uni, those are the ones I handled the most. I did integrate DBs into VB apps, but that was in a class (and a volunteer spot, using VBA). Since graduating with my Bachelor's Degree (Computer Information Systems) 2 years ago, I haven't coded much at all on my own time. Since then, I had a job for almost a year and a half, but they had me mostly doing stuff in FoxPro. I might have done .Net work there once or twice. Since my layoff, I've been looking for work, but have recently shifted to learning C# in order to perhaps build a project I can show to the world in a portfolio. I'm not nearly at that level yet though. I've also realized I'm not at the level with C++/VB where "extensive experience" is justified to say. Not with my level of rust. So, for now, I'm trying to change what that skills section says. But how can I address a lack of experience without seeming weak?
If you lie cheat tweak your experience in the world of software, you will be busted the first week of a new job (unless you're working by yourself). Tell the truth and express the level of enthusiasm you have. Software takes two things: aptitude and enthusiasm.
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Hello, all. I'm new here, and have a resume question. I warn you, this will be long. I've been on the job hunt since being laid off in August. However, a new fear has cropped up that has me truly shaken. I feel I am exaggerating my experience on my resume. I've heard this is the type of stuff that can get you blacklisted from a company. I want to change it. It's one section; the skills section at the top. In it, I say that I have extensive experience with C++, Visual Basic, and SQL. I also say that I have experience integrating database interaction into VB applications. Everything else in the resume is standard. The truth is that my experience with those is mostly from Community College and University. I listed those as "extensive" because of all the languages I ran across in CC and Uni, those are the ones I handled the most. I did integrate DBs into VB apps, but that was in a class (and a volunteer spot, using VBA). Since graduating with my Bachelor's Degree (Computer Information Systems) 2 years ago, I haven't coded much at all on my own time. Since then, I had a job for almost a year and a half, but they had me mostly doing stuff in FoxPro. I might have done .Net work there once or twice. Since my layoff, I've been looking for work, but have recently shifted to learning C# in order to perhaps build a project I can show to the world in a portfolio. I'm not nearly at that level yet though. I've also realized I'm not at the level with C++/VB where "extensive experience" is justified to say. Not with my level of rust. So, for now, I'm trying to change what that skills section says. But how can I address a lack of experience without seeming weak?
Look, the purpose of your resume is to help a perspective employer determine if you are what they are looking for. Never overstate your skills. I have questions that tell me your C level of experience, and the minute I detect dishonesty, you are out. On the other hand, if you are willing to learn, have mostly college experience, then you should stating that. In my opinion, you are an entry level developer. You should try to go back to the CC/Univ you have attended an enlist help from their Career Development, check their job postings. They are looking for people with your skills. Also, if your are NOT listing your GPA (at least your major GPA), it is a red flag to me. I have a perfect GPA in my major, I list that... Next, the biggest mistake people make (IMHO) on a resume is telling me what they DID. I want to know what IMPACT you had. (So you wrote reports, big deal. But developing a set of reporting templates to allow managers to more easily generate their own reports. That is IMPACT.) Don't lie. Finally, having worked in Career Development at Mich. State... Let me emphasize: 1) The purpose of the cover letter is to introduce and point out what on your resume should interest them 2) The resume exists to see if there is a match, determine what type of skills, and provide a basis for further questions, which hopefully requires an interview to go over. The resume should get you the interview, not the job. 3) The interview(s) get you the jobs. Note: on an interview, I brought a BRAND NEW day planner with me. The guy asked if I used it, liked it, etc. Then he asked me to hand it to him so he could flip through it! Luckily I was honest up front and said I just started using it because of the interviewing schedule!!! (2 weeks back, it was all blank!) I wish you luck.
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Hello, all. I'm new here, and have a resume question. I warn you, this will be long. I've been on the job hunt since being laid off in August. However, a new fear has cropped up that has me truly shaken. I feel I am exaggerating my experience on my resume. I've heard this is the type of stuff that can get you blacklisted from a company. I want to change it. It's one section; the skills section at the top. In it, I say that I have extensive experience with C++, Visual Basic, and SQL. I also say that I have experience integrating database interaction into VB applications. Everything else in the resume is standard. The truth is that my experience with those is mostly from Community College and University. I listed those as "extensive" because of all the languages I ran across in CC and Uni, those are the ones I handled the most. I did integrate DBs into VB apps, but that was in a class (and a volunteer spot, using VBA). Since graduating with my Bachelor's Degree (Computer Information Systems) 2 years ago, I haven't coded much at all on my own time. Since then, I had a job for almost a year and a half, but they had me mostly doing stuff in FoxPro. I might have done .Net work there once or twice. Since my layoff, I've been looking for work, but have recently shifted to learning C# in order to perhaps build a project I can show to the world in a portfolio. I'm not nearly at that level yet though. I've also realized I'm not at the level with C++/VB where "extensive experience" is justified to say. Not with my level of rust. So, for now, I'm trying to change what that skills section says. But how can I address a lack of experience without seeming weak?
I must confess that this problem is not new to me. My advice to you is to have 2 resumes. One should represent your true status, and then the second should represent your desired status. Your field is quite easy to develop some experience. When you develop a project (using codeproject and other resourceful websites), understand the project thoroughly so that you can easily explain it. If it's a web application you can host it on the internet. Then you can put something on your resume about this project. Like someone said, it doesnt have to be done through paid employment. Use the desired technologies and have faith in yourself, then you will get your job.
Fortēs fortūna adjuvat.
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Hello, all. I'm new here, and have a resume question. I warn you, this will be long. I've been on the job hunt since being laid off in August. However, a new fear has cropped up that has me truly shaken. I feel I am exaggerating my experience on my resume. I've heard this is the type of stuff that can get you blacklisted from a company. I want to change it. It's one section; the skills section at the top. In it, I say that I have extensive experience with C++, Visual Basic, and SQL. I also say that I have experience integrating database interaction into VB applications. Everything else in the resume is standard. The truth is that my experience with those is mostly from Community College and University. I listed those as "extensive" because of all the languages I ran across in CC and Uni, those are the ones I handled the most. I did integrate DBs into VB apps, but that was in a class (and a volunteer spot, using VBA). Since graduating with my Bachelor's Degree (Computer Information Systems) 2 years ago, I haven't coded much at all on my own time. Since then, I had a job for almost a year and a half, but they had me mostly doing stuff in FoxPro. I might have done .Net work there once or twice. Since my layoff, I've been looking for work, but have recently shifted to learning C# in order to perhaps build a project I can show to the world in a portfolio. I'm not nearly at that level yet though. I've also realized I'm not at the level with C++/VB where "extensive experience" is justified to say. Not with my level of rust. So, for now, I'm trying to change what that skills section says. But how can I address a lack of experience without seeming weak?
Be honest. You don't have "extensive experience" but do have experience. On my resume, I list the number of years I've worked with Windows and Windows CE/Embedded, since those are the jobs I want. Then I list "Key Technologies" without any reference to how experienced I am with them. In the jobs section, I repeated which technologies I used in that job, letting that speak for itself. During the interview, I expand on them in response to inevitable questions, giving specific examples on what problems I solved, how I solved them and how they helped the company and their customers. Job interviews are a two way street. Not only am I trying to sell myself to them, I'm trying to determine whether I want to work for them. Their questions and what they concentrate on tell me a lot. Finally, if you put VB on top, you'll get VB jobs. Is that what you want? It appears you want to de-emphasize the VB itself. Change your resume to reflect that. In other words, your resume is a sales tool and if you scream "I DO VB" on it, don't be surprised when those are the only interviews you get. In your case, you are a junior programmer, so I'd emphasize your problem solving skills. And be patient. You may need to take one job and work into another (no just fiction; this happened at the company I was at three years ago and was starting the process with a PHP guy at my current place before he jumped ship to another company.) And, to repeat myself and advise above: DO NOT LIE. (If I even suspect a lie in a resume, I toss it.)
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Be honest. You don't have "extensive experience" but do have experience. On my resume, I list the number of years I've worked with Windows and Windows CE/Embedded, since those are the jobs I want. Then I list "Key Technologies" without any reference to how experienced I am with them. In the jobs section, I repeated which technologies I used in that job, letting that speak for itself. During the interview, I expand on them in response to inevitable questions, giving specific examples on what problems I solved, how I solved them and how they helped the company and their customers. Job interviews are a two way street. Not only am I trying to sell myself to them, I'm trying to determine whether I want to work for them. Their questions and what they concentrate on tell me a lot. Finally, if you put VB on top, you'll get VB jobs. Is that what you want? It appears you want to de-emphasize the VB itself. Change your resume to reflect that. In other words, your resume is a sales tool and if you scream "I DO VB" on it, don't be surprised when those are the only interviews you get. In your case, you are a junior programmer, so I'd emphasize your problem solving skills. And be patient. You may need to take one job and work into another (no just fiction; this happened at the company I was at three years ago and was starting the process with a PHP guy at my current place before he jumped ship to another company.) And, to repeat myself and advise above: DO NOT LIE. (If I even suspect a lie in a resume, I toss it.)
Yeah, I feel really stupid that I had "extensive experience" on there now, without even thinking about what that meant outside my context. This resume is mostly a carry-over from my fresh-out-of-college days with my latest work history in there. At the time, I did feel pretty confident in C++/VB. Now I'm looking at intermediate interview questions to get an idea of the things I should be studying and my brain is melting. So, I have to do something more accurate. Thank you guys again for all your help. I have a meeting scheduled with my Alma Mater's Career service today. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Hello, all. I'm new here, and have a resume question. I warn you, this will be long. I've been on the job hunt since being laid off in August. However, a new fear has cropped up that has me truly shaken. I feel I am exaggerating my experience on my resume. I've heard this is the type of stuff that can get you blacklisted from a company. I want to change it. It's one section; the skills section at the top. In it, I say that I have extensive experience with C++, Visual Basic, and SQL. I also say that I have experience integrating database interaction into VB applications. Everything else in the resume is standard. The truth is that my experience with those is mostly from Community College and University. I listed those as "extensive" because of all the languages I ran across in CC and Uni, those are the ones I handled the most. I did integrate DBs into VB apps, but that was in a class (and a volunteer spot, using VBA). Since graduating with my Bachelor's Degree (Computer Information Systems) 2 years ago, I haven't coded much at all on my own time. Since then, I had a job for almost a year and a half, but they had me mostly doing stuff in FoxPro. I might have done .Net work there once or twice. Since my layoff, I've been looking for work, but have recently shifted to learning C# in order to perhaps build a project I can show to the world in a portfolio. I'm not nearly at that level yet though. I've also realized I'm not at the level with C++/VB where "extensive experience" is justified to say. Not with my level of rust. So, for now, I'm trying to change what that skills section says. But how can I address a lack of experience without seeming weak?
Hey guys. I just got back from a meet with a lady at my college's career center, and a talk with a previous professor of mine. When I voiced my concerns about exaggeration, the lady suggested several things, like: -"Course work completed in [all the languages listed in my resume]". This seems very weak to me, but is the most accurate. -"Experience in [all the languages listed in my resume]". Just cut off the "extensive." This seems like an easy fix. However, what if an employer calls me in and I still don't have the experience they're looking for? The professor recommended the second one above, but said later that he probably isn't the best one to talk about these things (he hasn't had to apply to a job in years). He's going to refer me to someone else who might be better. Still, I think it's a toss up between the two above. I don't know which one to go with though. Like I said, I want to be accurate without being scoffed at (even though I'm aware people aren't expecting those 2 years out of college to have serious company experience under their belt)