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  • G Gregory Gadow

    :doh: There is no likelihood of upgrading to a newer version of Visual Studio at this time. My question was about whether or not new articles written with VS 2008 are worth posting.

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    devenv exe
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    Gregory.Gadow wrote:

    articles written with VS 2008

    Which visual studio control are you using?. I can't seem to find an article writing control in the VS 2008 toolbox!

    "Coming soon"

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    • G Gregory Gadow

      Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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      Gregory Gadow
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      I hope to have it posted by next week.

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      • G Gregory Gadow

        Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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        Ravi Bhavnani
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        Gregory.Gadow wrote:

        Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

        Absolutely worth doing.  Post away! :thumbsup: /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        • G Gregory Gadow

          Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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          Lost User
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          You can get the free 2013 Express edition. That's what I'm doing when I post code for an article.

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          • G Gregory Gadow

            Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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            SoMad
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            Like many others have said, I don't think it is a problem if you use VS2008. As a matter of fact, I would prefer you don't post a VS2013 solution since I am not yet set up for that (and I assume I am not the only one still stuck on VS2010). Soren Madsen

            "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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              Like many others have said, I don't think it is a problem if you use VS2008. As a matter of fact, I would prefer you don't post a VS2013 solution since I am not yet set up for that (and I assume I am not the only one still stuck on VS2010). Soren Madsen

              "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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              OriginalGriff
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              I'm using it - but by choice. VS2012 got too many complaints (and I didn't need it) and I don't see 2013 as a big enough step version to want to be another paying MS beta tester :laugh:

              Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • G Gregory Gadow

                Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                Your choice (?) of development environment should have no bearing on the content of the article. (I try to avoid Visual Studio whenever I can.) The reader shouldn't care what tools you use; only the code and techniques matter. On the other hand, you should aim to support the oldest version of the framework as comfortable no matter how you develop.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I'm using it - but by choice. VS2012 got too many complaints (and I didn't need it) and I don't see 2013 as a big enough step version to want to be another paying MS beta tester :laugh:

                  Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                  SoMad
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                  I would like to upgrade and take a stab at some WP8 development, but first I have to upgrade my main system from WinXP... I have been putting that off for several reasons, but my plan is to buy an SSD drive and install Win8.1 on it, leaving my old drives in the system so I can go back to XP in case I need to do something I can't do in Win8.1. Soren Madsen

                  "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    I'm using it - but by choice. VS2012 got too many complaints (and I didn't need it) and I don't see 2013 as a big enough step version to want to be another paying MS beta tester :laugh:

                    Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                    I use 2013/2012 - and it has a lot nice (and good) additions for web. But it didn't cost me a dime...

                    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                    • G Gregory Gadow

                      Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      Which versions of Visual Studio are acceptable for articles?

                      Every version that has users still using it. ie Every version.

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                      • G Gregory Gadow

                        Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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                        Marco Bertschi
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                        Articles written with VS 2008 are worth posting. VS 2010, 2012 and 2013 offer a compliant converting mechanism.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          I'm using it - but by choice. VS2012 got too many complaints (and I didn't need it) and I don't see 2013 as a big enough step version to want to be another paying MS beta tester :laugh:

                          Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                          Brisingr Aerowing
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                          VS2013 is actually very stable, and is much faster than VS2010 and VS2012. It has quite a few cool features (notifications of updates and other things being one), and opens most VS solutions out there. The only real issues I have had are the weird line count for an error (posted in the Weird and the Wonderful), and the Git integration bug that causes repository creation to fail if another repository was deleted in the same VS instance. E.g. I have a test project in an instance of VS, close it, delete the folder, and try to use the same instance of VS to create a new project. Most of the time it will fail, sometimes it won't show an error, and sometimes it will work as expected.

                          Getting information off the Internet is like taking a drink from a fire hydrant. - Mitchell Kapor

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                          • G Gregory Gadow

                            Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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                            Simon ORiordan from UK
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                            Answering your QUESTION, I would definitely read an article for software written in VS2008, or even 2005. If you want to use the CODE, it should be easy to port as all previous versions of .NET will be compatible. People who worry about upgrading projects are obviously lazy or they can't programme for toffee. People who are telling you which version to upgrade to cannot read. ;) Me? I'm thinking of submitting an article written in .Net 4(Mono/VS) about a tiny encryption pad I wrote for sport a few years ago. It will be bare code and people can make it compatible with whatever.

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                            • G Gregory Gadow

                              Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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                              glennPattonWork3
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                              I still use 2008 mostly because it works for what I need and is compatible with Windows XP and up. The fact that I can't justify the expense to the management for an upgrade 'it works, why change it?' attitude (I'm the only one in the company who does Windows programming). The chances are the bit you reference hasn't had changes or the interface hasn't changed. I for one haven't had to use a database in anger, but it's looking like I might have to soon. Go For It :) :-D

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                              • G Gregory Gadow

                                Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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                                shillbot1
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                                Go ahead. It's not like the same principles will suddenly not apply. My company was still using VS 2008 for the project I work on until a few months ago.

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                                • G Gregory Gadow

                                  Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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                                  gggustafson
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                                  All of my articles were written using a development environment that included only VS2008. I find nothing in later versions of VS that I cannot program in VS2008. Also, writing an article in the later VS versions effectively limits your article's audience. Although it is possible to convert down to VS2008, why ask a reader to do so? VS2008 is my choice.

                                  Gus Gustafson

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                                  • G Gregory Gadow

                                    Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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                                    Gregory Gadow
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                                    DbToolbox: Utilities for data access and management[^] In case anyone still cares :zzz:

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                                    • D devenv exe

                                      Gregory.Gadow wrote:

                                      articles written with VS 2008

                                      Which visual studio control are you using?. I can't seem to find an article writing control in the VS 2008 toolbox!

                                      "Coming soon"

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                                      :laugh:

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        Agreed - I answered a QA question yesterday / today that was .NET 2.0, so there are still developers who are limited to that: VS2005 IIRC.

                                        Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                                        KP Lee
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                                        When I went to VS 2005, my code wouldn't compile because it used an outdated delegate mode that worked great in 2004. Of course this was from a class using 500 MH CPUs and I had no clue about VS levels while taking the class. I think this is the kind of thing that might upset some readers and what the original question was about. Of course I say, let the readers squawk. (Well it works on MY machine!)

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                                        • G Gregory Gadow

                                          Not Quite a Programming Question, so I'm asking in the forum that has the most eyes. If I should move it elsewhere, please let me know kindly. :^) I have an article I'd like to write out and post, about a database toolkit. I haven't done so because I still use Visual Studio 2008: our codebase is exclusively in VS 2008, it works well, and my company has seen no need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade. Worth doing, or is VS 2008 too outdated for such an article to be taken seriously?

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                                          ClockMeister
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                                          No, I don't think it's outdated at all. It's a solid platform. I've standardized all my development on it with attendant tools and I, too, find the idea of "upgrading" unpalatable. I write to the desktop and have a massive library I've developed over the years there's no reason, at all, to consider an upgrade. My code runs on everything from XP to Windows 8 desktop with no issues. Upgrading would be a colossal waste of money. IMHO, just hunker down and stick with it unless you find something you REALLY need to do but is only offered in later versions. I can see you're doing similar work with your database toolkit. I've done same. Why retool and/or re-invent the wheel at this stage? Write your article. I suspect there are many people that would use it. Besides, as someone else has already said: if you're using a later version the techniques won't change.

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