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  • S snorkie

    That is the same sort of thinking that allows people to justify child porn... Hogan

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    Christopher Duncan
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    I think his point was that anonymous people tend to behave badly. :)

    Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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      snorkie wrote:

      There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber.

      Its sort of a fad to hate him. Unfortunate for him, but does he really care that much? He has a butt load of money and a large fan base. If he does care he should take a lesson from Nickleback, which also is faddish to hate (although I do not like their music... But I would not say hate). I seem to remember the head man to Nickleback making some statement about the "Haterz". Something along the lines of, people do it because it is cool (to hate us). That is OK. We love what we do and we get paid a lot to do it and clearly not everyone hates us.

      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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      Collin Jasnoch wrote:

      Its sort of a fad to hate him. Unfortunate for him, but does he really care that much?

      This isn't about what Justin thinks of your statements. Its about respecting others around you. I learned this the hard way... I was quite down on President George W. Bush when he was in office and after. I happen to be a fan of the current US president. That being said, others around me say many hateful things about a man I respect. While they have a right to their own opinion, I'm not a fan of it. More importantly, I realized how I may have made others feel when I was down on President Bush. Learning respect for others even when you disagree with them. Its one thing to make factual statements about aspects of his music, its another to declare it cr@p because you don't enjoy it. I'm not saying a better person, but I'm always trying to become a better person. Hogan

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        I have daughters. They 'like' this shyte. I have to listen to it when they put the radio on loud. And you lot wonder why I drink! :laugh:

        speramus in juniperus

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        Albert Holguin
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        I feel for you! ...my brother has three beautiful little girls (ages range from <1 to 5)... I don't know how he keeps his sanity listening to this music and watching princess cartoons all day. :laugh:

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          There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber. Some food for thought: * If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. * Just because he looks different than you doesn't mean you have to call him a girl. Remember, if you're reading this, you're in IT and you're probably weird, and probably awkward. * (For Parents) Remember what its like when somebody picks on your kid... * If he is retiring from music, I'm personally jealous! He got in, made tons of money and can now do whatever he wants. The rest of us will continue going to work. Hogan

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          jesarg
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          I think music stars get a lot of hate they don't deserve in order to balance out all the obsessive fan worship they don't deserve, either. It's nature's way of making sure being a celebrity isn't too easy. I generally ignore both the haters and the worshipers if I can.

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            There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber. Some food for thought: * If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. * Just because he looks different than you doesn't mean you have to call him a girl. Remember, if you're reading this, you're in IT and you're probably weird, and probably awkward. * (For Parents) Remember what its like when somebody picks on your kid... * If he is retiring from music, I'm personally jealous! He got in, made tons of money and can now do whatever he wants. The rest of us will continue going to work. Hogan

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            jeron1
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            snorkie wrote:

            Why Is Everybody Hating Justin Bieber

            It's merely a continuation of what has gone on for generations, my parents hated the music I listened to, my grand-parents hated the music by parents listened to...etc. This person is the face of current pop music and therefore a fun and convenient target. Far be it from me to question human nature, let us old people have our fun.

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              There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber. Some food for thought: * If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. * Just because he looks different than you doesn't mean you have to call him a girl. Remember, if you're reading this, you're in IT and you're probably weird, and probably awkward. * (For Parents) Remember what its like when somebody picks on your kid... * If he is retiring from music, I'm personally jealous! He got in, made tons of money and can now do whatever he wants. The rest of us will continue going to work. Hogan

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              Christopher Duncan
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              I have great respect for anyone who can make a living in the entertainment industry, let alone carry home large truckloads of cash. I've never heard any of his music, so I can't speak to the quality of it. The general consensus seems to be that it's shallow tripe with no value. If that's true (and I know it must be because I read it on the Internet), I would think the greater concern would be not his art but rather the fact that millions of people like shallow tripe with no value. He's simply following the oldest rule in show biz: give the people what they want. Of course, it's probably just the backlash from overexposure coupled with the mindset of "in order for what I like to be good, everything else must suck." Every generation goes through that, and most never get over it. When I played rock and roll in the 70s, I had a Disco Sucks t-shirt because I was young, arrogant, narrow minded, and hey, everyone else had one! These days I'm happy to like what I like and allow others to do the same. If I had it to do over again, the t-shirt I'd wear would be Mean People Suck. And no, I still can't dance. :-D

              Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                snorkie wrote:

                Why Is Everybody Hating Justin Bieber

                It's merely a continuation of what has gone on for generations, my parents hated the music I listened to, my grand-parents hated the music by parents listened to...etc. This person is the face of current pop music and therefore a fun and convenient target. Far be it from me to question human nature, let us old people have our fun.

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                Christopher Duncan
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                Hey! Get off my lawn!

                Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                  Collin Jasnoch wrote:

                  Its sort of a fad to hate him. Unfortunate for him, but does he really care that much?

                  This isn't about what Justin thinks of your statements. Its about respecting others around you. I learned this the hard way... I was quite down on President George W. Bush when he was in office and after. I happen to be a fan of the current US president. That being said, others around me say many hateful things about a man I respect. While they have a right to their own opinion, I'm not a fan of it. More importantly, I realized how I may have made others feel when I was down on President Bush. Learning respect for others even when you disagree with them. Its one thing to make factual statements about aspects of his music, its another to declare it cr@p because you don't enjoy it. I'm not saying a better person, but I'm always trying to become a better person. Hogan

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                  Lost User
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                  snorkie wrote:

                  Its about respecting others around you.

                  That may be true but you are talking about people that watch videos on youtube which have humiliating seens that often look quite painful. Society is fraked up. Great if you as an individual are beyond the majorities of the people in society. Its not just about the respect of a person though. The last few months of watching the "Console Wars" shows this. There were some crazy smart people involved in making and getting both the PS4 and XBox One to market. Yet the fanbois and haterz come out and thrash and trash with out any regard to them or these companies. While a company is certainly different than an individual, because of the separation (not being involved with the individual or company first hand) to many it is the same. IMO it is quite simply. If you are in the spotlight expect crap treatment. Don't like it, then get out (which is what he is doing). There is no way around it. There is always criticism and often people make professions out of doing so, and on top of that it is clear the people that do so understand they will receive criticism right back. But they have thick skins and can take it. Take TMZ for example. Many hate them. Yet they love what they do and will continue to do it.

                  Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.

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                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                    How bally dare you! The Home Service is good and wholesome. Though they do listen to Magic a lot, which I find bearable.

                    speramus in juniperus

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Don't worry, Nagy. They're probably drinking no matter what you do. :-D

                    Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                    • S snorkie

                      There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber. Some food for thought: * If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. * Just because he looks different than you doesn't mean you have to call him a girl. Remember, if you're reading this, you're in IT and you're probably weird, and probably awkward. * (For Parents) Remember what its like when somebody picks on your kid... * If he is retiring from music, I'm personally jealous! He got in, made tons of money and can now do whatever he wants. The rest of us will continue going to work. Hogan

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                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                      because he codes in VB!

                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                      • A Albert Holguin

                        I feel for you! ...my brother has three beautiful little girls (ages range from <1 to 5)... I don't know how he keeps his sanity listening to this music and watching princess cartoons all day. :laugh:

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                        Christopher Duncan
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                        In fairness, I'd just like to point out that Leia is now a Disney princess. :)

                        Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                          Hey! Get off my lawn!

                          Christopher Duncan Author of Unite the Tribes: Leadership Skills for Technology Managers Have Fun, Get Paid: How to Make a Living with Your Creativity The Career Programmer

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                          Dad, is that really you? :laugh: !

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                            Collin Jasnoch wrote:

                            Its sort of a fad to hate him. Unfortunate for him, but does he really care that much?

                            This isn't about what Justin thinks of your statements. Its about respecting others around you. I learned this the hard way... I was quite down on President George W. Bush when he was in office and after. I happen to be a fan of the current US president. That being said, others around me say many hateful things about a man I respect. While they have a right to their own opinion, I'm not a fan of it. More importantly, I realized how I may have made others feel when I was down on President Bush. Learning respect for others even when you disagree with them. Its one thing to make factual statements about aspects of his music, its another to declare it cr@p because you don't enjoy it. I'm not saying a better person, but I'm always trying to become a better person. Hogan

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                            snorkie wrote:

                            I happen to be a fan of the current US president.

                            :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: This isn't the Soapbox so I won't ask...

                            Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                            • S snorkie

                              There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber. Some food for thought: * If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. * Just because he looks different than you doesn't mean you have to call him a girl. Remember, if you're reading this, you're in IT and you're probably weird, and probably awkward. * (For Parents) Remember what its like when somebody picks on your kid... * If he is retiring from music, I'm personally jealous! He got in, made tons of money and can now do whatever he wants. The rest of us will continue going to work. Hogan

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                              Everybody loves him. Especially since he said he quits. I have never heard his voice nor I want to. Although it's always fun to pick on him. I don't know why, it just is.

                              "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                              • S snorkie

                                There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber. Some food for thought: * If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. * Just because he looks different than you doesn't mean you have to call him a girl. Remember, if you're reading this, you're in IT and you're probably weird, and probably awkward. * (For Parents) Remember what its like when somebody picks on your kid... * If he is retiring from music, I'm personally jealous! He got in, made tons of money and can now do whatever he wants. The rest of us will continue going to work. Hogan

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                                Nicholas Marty
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                                This is why I would be so happy if he'd retire from the business: I wouldn't have the read every day about his latest "mistakes" he did, like doing drugs or visiting a certain establishment. I don't care about him at all. In fact: I would be more than happy if everyone just stopped talking about him. This involves people like Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Michael Schuhmacher (nothing against him and I wish him all the best), etc. They are still just some random humans (true, maybe rich and famous) but they did nothing that really is of any importance to mankind (Yeah, I'm not really of any importance to mankind either, but you don't have to read about me in every newspaper around the world too). Sure, you can skip those article if you're not interested (which I do), but you'll still have read at least the headline and will already now "uuh... (s)he did that... well... that's great... now... why's that important again?" In fact, in my opinion, news about those so called celebrities should be removed from all general newspapers and they should let those magazines dedicated to unimportant gossip cover the stories about them.

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                                  This is why I would be so happy if he'd retire from the business: I wouldn't have the read every day about his latest "mistakes" he did, like doing drugs or visiting a certain establishment. I don't care about him at all. In fact: I would be more than happy if everyone just stopped talking about him. This involves people like Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Michael Schuhmacher (nothing against him and I wish him all the best), etc. They are still just some random humans (true, maybe rich and famous) but they did nothing that really is of any importance to mankind (Yeah, I'm not really of any importance to mankind either, but you don't have to read about me in every newspaper around the world too). Sure, you can skip those article if you're not interested (which I do), but you'll still have read at least the headline and will already now "uuh... (s)he did that... well... that's great... now... why's that important again?" In fact, in my opinion, news about those so called celebrities should be removed from all general newspapers and they should let those magazines dedicated to unimportant gossip cover the stories about them.

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                                  Nicholas Marty wrote:

                                  news about those so called celebrities should be removed from all general newspapers

                                  Then you will need to learn to be satisfied with one page newspaper where half the page is covered with name of the newspaper. May be less. I don't know how much is printed about other stories.

                                  "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                    There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber. Some food for thought: * If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. * Just because he looks different than you doesn't mean you have to call him a girl. Remember, if you're reading this, you're in IT and you're probably weird, and probably awkward. * (For Parents) Remember what its like when somebody picks on your kid... * If he is retiring from music, I'm personally jealous! He got in, made tons of money and can now do whatever he wants. The rest of us will continue going to work. Hogan

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                                    Because he indents like a pig when he codes.

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                                    • S snorkie

                                      There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber. Some food for thought: * If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. * Just because he looks different than you doesn't mean you have to call him a girl. Remember, if you're reading this, you're in IT and you're probably weird, and probably awkward. * (For Parents) Remember what its like when somebody picks on your kid... * If he is retiring from music, I'm personally jealous! He got in, made tons of money and can now do whatever he wants. The rest of us will continue going to work. Hogan

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                                      I completely agree with you. Kids should not be given the platform to earn a fortune based on a dubious talent. If we banned kids from being infamous then they would risk less from being ridiculed by a large population of the sane world.

                                      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                      ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                      • S snorkie

                                        There are some large threads on the forum recently hating on Justin Bieber. Some food for thought: * If you don't like his music, don't listen to it. * Just because he looks different than you doesn't mean you have to call him a girl. Remember, if you're reading this, you're in IT and you're probably weird, and probably awkward. * (For Parents) Remember what its like when somebody picks on your kid... * If he is retiring from music, I'm personally jealous! He got in, made tons of money and can now do whatever he wants. The rest of us will continue going to work. Hogan

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                                        It's not Bieber I hate, it's the mindless entertainment garbage that is being marketed by an industry driven by greed and consumed by a soulless society that his hellbent on an ever escalating need for over-stimulation. Our world is insane because the people who make up the world are insane. And besides from sounding like some foofoo new-age anti-post-modern culture fanatic myself, I'm actually quite serious. :) Marc

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                                          Nicholas Marty wrote:

                                          news about those so called celebrities should be removed from all general newspapers

                                          Then you will need to learn to be satisfied with one page newspaper where half the page is covered with name of the newspaper. May be less. I don't know how much is printed about other stories.

                                          "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                          Nicholas Marty
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                                          You got my point then... :laugh:

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