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  • R Rage

    I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

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    just did a config of a new laptop with Win 8.1 for my father in law. I stick with my original comment. Win 8 is not suited for laptop or desktop machine. It's more for touch screen devices. Try explaining Win 8 to an elderly user just coming from Win Xp and is not interested in PC's at all. :|

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    • R Rage

      I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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      Lost User
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      I just got a new Windows 8 PC for SWMBO, and upgraded it to 8.1, so herself can have her old style "look and feel". Pretty painless and it's now set up with a nice Weven-looking desktop.

      Veni, vidi, abiit domum

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        just did a config of a new laptop with Win 8.1 for my father in law. I stick with my original comment. Win 8 is not suited for laptop or desktop machine. It's more for touch screen devices. Try explaining Win 8 to an elderly user just coming from Win Xp and is not interested in PC's at all. :|

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        See my comment below.

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        • R Rob Grainger

          I still don't get all the hate - all you need do is install a start menu replacement and it all works as expected (better than Win7).

          "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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          Where it is better then 7?

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            See my comment below.

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            I know the desktop button is back, but can you configure the PC to launch the desktop by default? Perhaps I missed that, because by default it's all tiles...

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            • R Rage

              I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              Clark Kent123
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              I would say it's like a service pack. It's not bad of an update. I have only noticed a few changes that I don't mind. Personally, I don't mind Win 8. Not calling it the greatest OS, but it is certainly not the worst.

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                just did a config of a new laptop with Win 8.1 for my father in law. I stick with my original comment. Win 8 is not suited for laptop or desktop machine. It's more for touch screen devices. Try explaining Win 8 to an elderly user just coming from Win Xp and is not interested in PC's at all. :|

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                Clark Kent123
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                Win 8 is not suited for laptop or desktop machine. It's more for touch screen devices.

                I certainly do agree. Yeah, you can get by using it on a laptop, but it does make sense for it to be on exclusively on touch devices. The one thing (maybe more) that throws me off is why allow the "desktop mode" enabled on touch devices. Not sure where MS was going with that. Maybe they didn't know either. :)

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                • V V 0

                  I know the desktop button is back, but can you configure the PC to launch the desktop by default? Perhaps I missed that, because by default it's all tiles...

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                  There must be a setting because my machine (Dell) launches to the desktop, but I didn't do anything to get it to do that. I just purchased the machine and had Win 8.1 installed by a tech in the IT mall that was working in collaboration with the shop where I purchased the machine. It launched to the desktop and I was happy about that. :-D

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                    There must be a setting because my machine (Dell) launches to the desktop, but I didn't do anything to get it to do that. I just purchased the machine and had Win 8.1 installed by a tech in the IT mall that was working in collaboration with the shop where I purchased the machine. It launched to the desktop and I was happy about that. :-D

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                    Ok, I'll check it out, thanks ;-)

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                      Ok, I'll check it out, thanks ;-)

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                      You got my curiosity up so I did a little investigation and came up with this. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2043243/how-to-boot-to-desktop-mode-in-windows-8-1.html[^] Mine is worded a little differently - "When I sign in or close all apps on a screen, go to the desktop instead of Start." - but does the job.

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                      • C Clark Kent123

                        I would say it's like a service pack. It's not bad of an update. I have only noticed a few changes that I don't mind. Personally, I don't mind Win 8. Not calling it the greatest OS, but it is certainly not the worst.

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                        Clark Kent123 wrote:

                        Personally, I don't mind Win 8. Not calling it the greatest OS, but it is certainly not the worst.

                        That was my impression also. Because I use a lot of keyboard shortcuts I was able to navigate easily regardless of where Windows launched. Windows 8.1 just makes it a little easier because my machine launches to the desktop instead of Start.

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                        • V V 0

                          I know the desktop button is back, but can you configure the PC to launch the desktop by default? Perhaps I missed that, because by default it's all tiles...

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                          Yes. Right-click the task bar, select Properties -> Navigation and there are a couple of check boxes to set your choices.

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                          • R Rage

                            I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

                            ~RaGE();

                            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                            Dan Neely
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                            Service pack. The only gotcha during setup is that if you declined to create an MS account for your logon with 8.0, the option to keep using your local logon instead of creating an MS account in the setup wizard is hidden somewhere you're unlikely to find unless you've got a second computer/tablet/etc available to BingGoogle it. Once installed you'll probably want to change the default start screen search behavior. After going too far one direction by separating app/doc/setting results to separate screens in 8.1 MS overshot the other direction and in addition to combining all three of those will also send your search string to Bing and add results from there in unless you check the don't do that checkbox.

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                            • R Rage

                              I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

                              ~RaGE();

                              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                              Marc A Brown
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                              I have. It was like a service pack (unless you're upgrading from the beta).

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                              • R Rage

                                I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

                                ~RaGE();

                                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                                the upgrading process scans and fixes a lot of driver issues and fixes your registry. It looks like a good idea to upgrade.

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                                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                  Where it is better then 7?

                                  I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                  Rob Grainger
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                                  Off the top of my head. 1. Startup time - drastically improved. 2. Memory requirements - improved. 3. File System performance - improved. You know, the core functions of an O/S. Apart from that, follow the herd and ignore it.

                                  "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                                    Off the top of my head. 1. Startup time - drastically improved. 2. Memory requirements - improved. 3. File System performance - improved. You know, the core functions of an O/S. Apart from that, follow the herd and ignore it.

                                    "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                    1. I can't remember when my OS was down last time... 2. For sure - no parallel applications so no memory needs... 3. You may got a new SSD with it :) It has a too hard Microsoft way or no-way build into it. OS is not only performance but usability and user-friendly. You just got an enlarged phone... But it's OK with me - I'm on Fedora 5 years already and all my Windows machines are virtual...(including one 8.1)

                                    I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                                    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                    • R Rage

                                      I know Win8 is not very popular here, but from the people using it, have you already upgraded to 8.1 ? Is this only like a service pack, or a fresh install ?

                                      ~RaGE();

                                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                                      mikepwilson
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                                      I like it. A couple definite improvements. But then Win 8 didn't give me a case of the whinebags either, so YMMV.

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                                      • C Clark Kent123

                                        I would say it's like a service pack. It's not bad of an update. I have only noticed a few changes that I don't mind. Personally, I don't mind Win 8. Not calling it the greatest OS, but it is certainly not the worst.

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                                        Joe Woodbury
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                                        I've not only gotten used to it, I kind of prefer it now over Windows 7. If I could get an inexpensive copy, I'd use it as an excuse to buy an SSD for my home system and use it instead of Win 7. For $99, it isn't worth the hassle.

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                                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                          1. I can't remember when my OS was down last time... 2. For sure - no parallel applications so no memory needs... 3. You may got a new SSD with it :) It has a too hard Microsoft way or no-way build into it. OS is not only performance but usability and user-friendly. You just got an enlarged phone... But it's OK with me - I'm on Fedora 5 years already and all my Windows machines are virtual...(including one 8.1)

                                          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                          Rob Grainger
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                                          Have you actually used Windows 8.1 though? From your response it doesn't sound like it! "No parallel applications" - absolute nonsense. It still runs Win32/64 software exactly as before. The disk performance is greatly improved - its not an SSD thing. Measured by Cakewalk (who create Audio software - where disk IO is very important). I turn off my PC between use to conserve power. For a server I'd either run Linux or Windows Server depending on the environment and app requirements.

                                          "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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