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What is a good year for VS?

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

    speramus in juniperus

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      I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

      speramus in juniperus

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      Pete OHanlon
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      2013 is much better than 2012. I like my 2013 a lot.

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        I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

        speramus in juniperus

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        Both are stable as much as Microsoft product can be. If you will use it for web 2013 has some additions that can help you, otherwise no big differences. In fact 2013 is not more than a 2012 patch, made into separate version because of Microsoft policy - new .NET framework === .NEW VS version!

        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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          2013 is much better than 2012. I like my 2013 a lot.

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          If I'm doing C# and ASP.net, do I need both the web and desktop? [asking for a friend :-D ]

          speramus in juniperus

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          • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

            Both are stable as much as Microsoft product can be. If you will use it for web 2013 has some additions that can help you, otherwise no big differences. In fact 2013 is not more than a 2012 patch, made into separate version because of Microsoft policy - new .NET framework === .NEW VS version!

            I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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            OriginalGriff
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            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

            Microsoft policy - new .NET framework === .NEW VS version === loads of upgrades === lots more money!

            FTFY!

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              If I'm doing C# and ASP.net, do I need both the web and desktop? [asking for a friend :-D ]

              speramus in juniperus

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Just install the C# part and you get both.

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                If I'm doing C# and ASP.net, do I need both the web and desktop? [asking for a friend :-D ]

                speramus in juniperus

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                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                You may also go for the express version for WEB...

                I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

                  speramus in juniperus

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                  HobbyProggy
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                  2013! Most loved Feature - I can code while i debug my 64bit Programm! in 2012 the Debugger said: "The F are you doing mate? You can't Code while Debugging! Start from the beginning and try again:suss:"

                  if(this.signature != "") { MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature); } else { MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found"); }

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                    2013! Most loved Feature - I can code while i debug my 64bit Programm! in 2012 the Debugger said: "The F are you doing mate? You can't Code while Debugging! Start from the beginning and try again:suss:"

                    if(this.signature != "") { MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature); } else { MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found"); }

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                    Nicholas Marty
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                    A feature long overdue!

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                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                      Both are stable as much as Microsoft product can be. If you will use it for web 2013 has some additions that can help you, otherwise no big differences. In fact 2013 is not more than a 2012 patch, made into separate version because of Microsoft policy - new .NET framework === .NEW VS version!

                      I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                      Sentenryu
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                      actually, there's no new framework version involved. The reason for a full new product is the breaking changes on the asp.net projects. 2012 can open and compile the project, but you don't get intellisense nor any specific features, such as add controller on mvc 5 projects. They also needed to launch a new c++ compiler.

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                        I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

                        speramus in juniperus

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                        Mendor81
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                        Title sounded more like a request for wine recomendations or in your case gin ;P

                        Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!! Dogs are man's best Friend, Cats are man's adorable little serial killer

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                          actually, there's no new framework version involved. The reason for a full new product is the breaking changes on the asp.net projects. 2012 can open and compile the project, but you don't get intellisense nor any specific features, such as add controller on mvc 5 projects. They also needed to launch a new c++ compiler.

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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                          4.5.1!!!

                          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                          • N Nagy Vilmos

                            I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

                            speramus in juniperus

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                            Vintage 2012 was a tad towards strongly tannic, but, for many, that was balanced by the subtle dandelion-chaff on-the-wing overtones, the top-note of decaying sphagnum moss, and the poignant apres-bouquet of sweaty en flagrante delicto. There are those who claimed they could detect a faint nose of sulphur in its crashes, but we are unable to remember that. Vintage 2013 definitely moves toward the floral side of the spectrum with its fizz-pop-bang of crackling carbonic acid release as it teases you with never quite being "ready," and lighter body, its strange top-note of summer athletic socks worn too many times, and its vivid lingering aroma that some liken to Romanian gymnasts fallen from parallel bars, or left-over Scottish haggis. May we suggest you taste both, without swallowing ? à chacun son goût

                            “But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.” “How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice. “You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll

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                              I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

                              speramus in juniperus

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                              John M Drescher
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                              I know its not one of your choices but I say 2010 just because I prefer the IDE versus the new. Although I generate my released applications in 2012 but that I do via the command line.

                              John

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

                                speramus in juniperus

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                                Visual Studio 2013 is mostly better than 2012, only a few negatives I have found: 1. Seems to have issues with creating new MVC4 projects (for me anyway, option is there but they don't build). MVC5 is better anyway, but something to watch out for 2. No ReSharper 7, have to use 8 which means a new license (if you use ReSharper) 3. No Visual SVN 3.5 or older, have to use 4. Maybe none of those affect you, that's what I've found anyway!

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

                                  speramus in juniperus

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                                  Rob Grainger
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                                  I'd recommend 2013 - some of the new features are worth it. See the Jolt awards in Insider News today for details.

                                  "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                                    I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D

                                    speramus in juniperus

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                                    Y U no go for eclipse?

                                    "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                      Y U no go for eclipse?

                                      "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                      Nagy Vilmos
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                                      I'm doing .net stuff, so VS. As for e*, that can go spend eternity stuffed up Ms H's whatsit! Worse that netbeans, which is saying something.

                                      speramus in juniperus

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                                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                        Both are stable as much as Microsoft product can be. If you will use it for web 2013 has some additions that can help you, otherwise no big differences. In fact 2013 is not more than a 2012 patch, made into separate version because of Microsoft policy - new .NET framework === .NEW VS version!

                                        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                        Mike Hankey
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                                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

                                        In fact 2013 is not more than a 2012 patch, made into separate version because of Microsoft policy - new .NET framework === .NEW VS version!

                                        and they needed the money to offset Windows 8 lack of sales? :)

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                                          Vintage 2012 was a tad towards strongly tannic, but, for many, that was balanced by the subtle dandelion-chaff on-the-wing overtones, the top-note of decaying sphagnum moss, and the poignant apres-bouquet of sweaty en flagrante delicto. There are those who claimed they could detect a faint nose of sulphur in its crashes, but we are unable to remember that. Vintage 2013 definitely moves toward the floral side of the spectrum with its fizz-pop-bang of crackling carbonic acid release as it teases you with never quite being "ready," and lighter body, its strange top-note of summer athletic socks worn too many times, and its vivid lingering aroma that some liken to Romanian gymnasts fallen from parallel bars, or left-over Scottish haggis. May we suggest you taste both, without swallowing ? à chacun son goût

                                          “But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.” “How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice. “You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          That's what she said!

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                                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
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