What is a good year for VS?
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Y U no go for eclipse?
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I'm doing .net stuff, so VS. As for e*, that can go spend eternity stuffed up Ms H's whatsit! Worse that netbeans, which is saying something.
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Both are stable as much as Microsoft product can be. If you will use it for web 2013 has some additions that can help you, otherwise no big differences. In fact 2013 is not more than a 2012 patch, made into separate version because of Microsoft policy - new .NET framework === .NEW VS version!
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
In fact 2013 is not more than a 2012 patch, made into separate version because of Microsoft policy - new .NET framework === .NEW VS version!
and they needed the money to offset Windows 8 lack of sales? :)
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Relax...We're all crazy it's not a competition!
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Vintage 2012 was a tad towards strongly tannic, but, for many, that was balanced by the subtle dandelion-chaff on-the-wing overtones, the top-note of decaying sphagnum moss, and the poignant apres-bouquet of sweaty en flagrante delicto. There are those who claimed they could detect a faint nose of sulphur in its crashes, but we are unable to remember that. Vintage 2013 definitely moves toward the floral side of the spectrum with its fizz-pop-bang of crackling carbonic acid release as it teases you with never quite being "ready," and lighter body, its strange top-note of summer athletic socks worn too many times, and its vivid lingering aroma that some liken to Romanian gymnasts fallen from parallel bars, or left-over Scottish haggis. May we suggest you taste both, without swallowing ? à chacun son goût
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.” “How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice. “You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
That's what she said!
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
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I vote for 2013
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein -
Vintage 2012 was a tad towards strongly tannic, but, for many, that was balanced by the subtle dandelion-chaff on-the-wing overtones, the top-note of decaying sphagnum moss, and the poignant apres-bouquet of sweaty en flagrante delicto. There are those who claimed they could detect a faint nose of sulphur in its crashes, but we are unable to remember that. Vintage 2013 definitely moves toward the floral side of the spectrum with its fizz-pop-bang of crackling carbonic acid release as it teases you with never quite being "ready," and lighter body, its strange top-note of summer athletic socks worn too many times, and its vivid lingering aroma that some liken to Romanian gymnasts fallen from parallel bars, or left-over Scottish haggis. May we suggest you taste both, without swallowing ? à chacun son goût
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.” “How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice. “You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
BillWoodruff wrote:
May we suggest you taste both, without swallowing ?
When it comes to most Microsoft things nowadays (ribbon bar, WPF, VS2010/12/13, W8, etc) sadly I think that swallowing without tasting delivers a less sour experience, at least initially. Regardless of one's approach though, you'll still suffer from indigestion. Marc
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Vintage 2012 was a tad towards strongly tannic, but, for many, that was balanced by the subtle dandelion-chaff on-the-wing overtones, the top-note of decaying sphagnum moss, and the poignant apres-bouquet of sweaty en flagrante delicto. There are those who claimed they could detect a faint nose of sulphur in its crashes, but we are unable to remember that. Vintage 2013 definitely moves toward the floral side of the spectrum with its fizz-pop-bang of crackling carbonic acid release as it teases you with never quite being "ready," and lighter body, its strange top-note of summer athletic socks worn too many times, and its vivid lingering aroma that some liken to Romanian gymnasts fallen from parallel bars, or left-over Scottish haggis. May we suggest you taste both, without swallowing ? à chacun son goût
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.” “How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice. “You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
BillWoodruff wrote:
May we suggest you taste both, without swallowing
What do you recommend to cleanse the palette? Eclipse?
Software Zen:
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I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
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I'm actually just considering this question myself... I'll be updating from VS2008. With their new development cycle, it's going to be hard to keep up with their releases (seem to remember some indication that they were pushing for one release per year).
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I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
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2013 for code 2010 for test, alm
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I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
speramus in juniperus
"...it all went down hill after VS 6.0" This brought back such nice memories!
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I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
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For example SQL Server Compact Edition support is gone in 2013 so be careful with legacy projects.
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I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
speramus in juniperus
I bet there's a joke in there about vintage and whether VS has legs or an oakey finish, but I'm too tired to come up with it. Probably already in the thread anyway, I didn't read all the responses. To answer Nagy's question, I'm on 2010, so can't give an opinion about 12 vs 13.
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Vintage 2012 was a tad towards strongly tannic, but, for many, that was balanced by the subtle dandelion-chaff on-the-wing overtones, the top-note of decaying sphagnum moss, and the poignant apres-bouquet of sweaty en flagrante delicto. There are those who claimed they could detect a faint nose of sulphur in its crashes, but we are unable to remember that. Vintage 2013 definitely moves toward the floral side of the spectrum with its fizz-pop-bang of crackling carbonic acid release as it teases you with never quite being "ready," and lighter body, its strange top-note of summer athletic socks worn too many times, and its vivid lingering aroma that some liken to Romanian gymnasts fallen from parallel bars, or left-over Scottish haggis. May we suggest you taste both, without swallowing ? à chacun son goût
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.” “How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice. “You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
AWESOME
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I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
speramus in juniperus
Wait until 2014, because, you know, 2013 is so last year... ;P
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I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
speramus in juniperus
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I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
speramus in juniperus
For my own development I've stayed with VS2008. I use 2010 at the office but that's as far as I've gone with it. VS2008 Standard with Active Reports 6 and the Sandcastle help builder makes a dynamite development environment. I put a little under $1000 into those things a few years back and I have not run into any glass ceilings or anything that make me even remotely interested in an upgrade.
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I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
speramus in juniperus
Yes there is an update in the .net for VS2013 to confirm that post I like 2012 and 2013 the intellisense in C++ for myself I suppose that's preference though and the snippets features are improved also I use the snippets designer to add them I suppose you could just manipulate the XML yourself Microsoft explains the method on developer site. All in all there are more features to choose from but I'm still not sold that 2013 is that much better. I'm sure I'll discover more features and decide it is but either of them are improvement over 2010.
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BillWoodruff wrote:
May we suggest you taste both, without swallowing
What do you recommend to cleanse the palette? Eclipse?
Software Zen:
delete this; -
I need to install VS on my box, which is bestest - 2012 or 2013? Poisonally, it all went down hill after VS 6.0 :-D
speramus in juniperus
Havn't tried m or VS2013 - they don't work on XP and VS2010 is really crap in terms of performance. No difference between 2008 and 2010 on a fast laptop but try a netbook and you will really see the difference. 2008 starts in 15s: 2010 takes 2 minutes! i.e. as long as eclipse! I'll stick to 2008 for now even though it doesn't do C++11.
