What is it with these Gay Rights people
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You are correct I don't consider gay relationships "normal", I do define normal as male/female anything else is an aberration. I don't care if they are common throughout history and you can keep other species, I'm talking about human normal.
chriselst wrote:
Because you think they are not normal then they should not be talked about in a positive way.
I have no idea where you got that from, I am not gay bashing just don't get why they are so militant on the Russian thing (I understand the vigilantism and find it disturbing). Inter-racial has absolutely nothing to do with the subject, I don't care how "common" they are and they certainly can't be measured in the same way, preposterous. If they are male/female they rate as normal IMHO.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
So over 250 other species practice it, particularly amongst higher mammals, it has been practiced by man since time immemorial and is somethig that just happens in some people, without outside influence of any kind, and you DONT think its normal? Holy crap, what DOES qualify as normal then? :) Surely marriage isnt normal then, art neither. Cooking, thats an abberation, clothes, as abnormal as hell. ALl those atre only practised by man and relatively recently. Deffinitely abnormal for sure.
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Every prejudice that isn't yours would be wrong in your opinion. That is not the point. The fact is, mother/father relationships are normal because that's where children come from - their mom and dad. Race has nothing to do with this. The fact is, boys usually emulate dad and girls emulate mom. Considering how many unwanted kids (kids given up for adoption) we have and all that, the normal family structure has completely eroded. In a perfect world, rape would be eliminated and children born out of wedlock would no longer happen. Then mom and dad can bring up their kids the way they want them to. You wish to be gay? Fine! You wish to raise your child gay? Fine! But don't tell me I can't raise my son to believe that being gay is not wrong since I will be teaching him to be straight and that cannot coexist with being gay.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
I will be teaching him to be straight
Good luck with that if he likes c o c k.
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chriselst wrote:
It is absolutely true because you have observed one example. Nice sampling.
That was one example. Every boy that I've seen growing up emulated their father in one way or other. I have many nephews and cousins who are younger.
chriselst wrote:
Although you then contradict yourself, admitting he is emulating others too.
How is that a contradiction? Kids will eventually learn from other kids. But before they go out and meet kids in school or even daycare, they start learning from and emulating their parents.
chriselst wrote:
Utter bollocks.
If you're a prejudiced throwback who cannot accept the real world then you tell them who to date and try to control their life. It has nothing to do with being gay or being straight.So the real world is letting them choose whatever they want with no input from you? The fact that you guide them does not mean you control them. No opinion in how they live is just as bad as controlling every aspect of it.
chriselst wrote:
I have not decided how she will lead her life, that is up to her. All I can do is give her all the information she needs to make her own informed choices and try to teach her to be kind to others.
I am not expecting you, nor me, to lead their lives for them. However, we are expected to guide them. Telling your daughter she can date whoever she wants at a young age is basically telling her she doesn't have to be straight. Ergo, you can be gay.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Every boy that I've seen growing up emulated their father in one way or other.
So you dont know many gays then.... The few I have met dont look like women and dont emulate them. They are men, who look like men, but who like c o c k. Oh as for teaching, you have as much chance teaching a black to be white as teching a hetro to be gay.
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chriselst wrote:
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Telling your daughter she can date whoever she wants at a young age is basically telling her she doesn't have to be straight. Ergo, you can be gay.
Of course she can be gay. How does that make any difference to me? Will it make her a different person? Will it make me love her less?
Reread what I wrote. The fact that you DON'T tell her to be straight IMPLIES that you're telling her she can be gay. That contradicts your other statements on how you can raise someone straight or gay. You're basically giving her the green light on being gay if she chooses to without even realizing it. Will you love her less if she was ugly, stupid, boring, short, fat, slow, or a kleptomaniac. No. She's your daughter. That doesn't mean we accept everything about our kids blindly. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
being gay if she chooses
Its not like chosing fish or meat for a main course you know. Try chosing to have different coloured eyes. That will give you an idea.
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So over 250 other species practice it, particularly amongst higher mammals, it has been practiced by man since time immemorial and is somethig that just happens in some people, without outside influence of any kind, and you DONT think its normal? Holy crap, what DOES qualify as normal then? :) Surely marriage isnt normal then, art neither. Cooking, thats an abberation, clothes, as abnormal as hell. ALl those atre only practised by man and relatively recently. Deffinitely abnormal for sure.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
Surely marriage isnt normal then,
Dammed right it is not normal, what right thinking male would voluntarily limit himself to 1 pussy. Ok so that proves I'm nuts.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
Holy crap, what DOES qualify as normal then
I'm beginning to wonder, however I don't consider any of your arguments valid, other species, so what! Just because it is practiced by a minority does not make it "normal", actually I'm beginning to dislike that word altogether. In desperation I will fall back to the evolutionary thing, homosexual relationships are not productive. And if you point out that we are already dramatically over populated I will ignore your argument with decorum :^) .
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
That was your statement. Yours needs equal data proof as mine.
More homosexuals have hetro sexual parents.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
Its kind of hard for gay parents to have kids.... :)
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You tell your children who to date?
You don't?! What kind of parent does not set ground rules? Free loving hippies. :mad:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Stop taking the piss. :)
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
Surely marriage isnt normal then,
Dammed right it is not normal, what right thinking male would voluntarily limit himself to 1 pussy. Ok so that proves I'm nuts.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
Holy crap, what DOES qualify as normal then
I'm beginning to wonder, however I don't consider any of your arguments valid, other species, so what! Just because it is practiced by a minority does not make it "normal", actually I'm beginning to dislike that word altogether. In desperation I will fall back to the evolutionary thing, homosexual relationships are not productive. And if you point out that we are already dramatically over populated I will ignore your argument with decorum :^) .
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
As for the animal thing its extraordinary how many higher mamals do, apes and dolphins for example. Of course for them being 'gay' isnt so extreme, they form male to male relationships that are long lasting and include sex, but also mate with females, so it isnt actually limiting reproduction at all, perhaps for them the homosecual relationship is just the icing on the cake, of the fact they can have sedx all the time, and not just in season, makes it more appealing? DOnt know, dont know what dolphins think. Anyway, as for it being normal, its about as normal and as natural as anything else is, doesnt do any harm, and quite frankly, anything that increases the total amount of love in the world shouldnt be condemned. And gay people tend to be intelligent, thoughtful, and not aggressive, so perhaps in todays overpopulated and fought over world it is a better future model and perhaps an evoloutionary step forwards.
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Does any country on earth accept 'promotion' of gayness?
Do you not watch TV in the US?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
No. I live in France. :)
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Isn't fat_boy in Europe though?
1. If he is, isn't Europe even worse than the US? I haven't been there but from what I have heard morals almost don't exist there, in the media at least. 2. I have called him out on this. He makes posts where one minute he's in Europe and the next he's in California and then he's in Germany. Either he travels a ton or lives in his mother's basement and flies with Flight Simulator. :)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
I haven't been there but from what I have heard morals almost don't exist there
Yeah, its a great place Europe. ;) Look, I live in France but I am contracting for a US firm who has an office in Gemany which is where I often work, though I sometimes go to the US to work at the head office. Although right now I am in Spain. ANd yes, I do travel a lot. :(
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Why is it weird? Europe is tiny, its easy to bounce around a nunmber of countries. As for the US I am sometimes working over there.
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RyanDev wrote:
one minute he's in Europe and the next he's in California and then he's in Germany
Germany is in Europe. Originally from UK, lived in France for a number of years, recently working on a contract in Germany, currently considering a contract in Belgium.
chriselst wrote:
Originally from UK, lived in France for a number of years, recently working on a contract in Germany, currently considering a contract in Belgium.
Uh? Is that you you are talking about? It could be me! I am from the UK< still live in France, am currently contracting in Germany and considering a contract in Belgium. :) I also worked in the US for a few months end of last year, and its that that has Ryan confused. AParently air travel is new to him.
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chriselst wrote:
Originally from UK, lived in France for a number of years, recently working on a contract in Germany, currently considering a contract in Belgium.
Uh? Is that you you are talking about? It could be me! I am from the UK< still live in France, am currently contracting in Germany and considering a contract in Belgium. :) I also worked in the US for a few months end of last year, and its that that has Ryan confused. AParently air travel is new to him.
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
Surely marriage isnt normal then,
Dammed right it is not normal, what right thinking male would voluntarily limit himself to 1 pussy. Ok so that proves I'm nuts.
Erudite_Eric wrote:
Holy crap, what DOES qualify as normal then
I'm beginning to wonder, however I don't consider any of your arguments valid, other species, so what! Just because it is practiced by a minority does not make it "normal", actually I'm beginning to dislike that word altogether. In desperation I will fall back to the evolutionary thing, homosexual relationships are not productive. And if you point out that we are already dramatically over populated I will ignore your argument with decorum :^) .
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
In desperation I will fall back to the evolutionary thing,
The evolutionary thing[^] (Warning, does talk quite a lot other about gay animals).
Thing is in the wild animals dont chose to be gay or not, they just fuck. Their mates and girls. It is only in the modern worl dwe make a big issue of it, and therefore force people to be one or the other. If truth be known the vast majority of us have a bit of both inside.
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No, I was talking about you. I wasn't on here end of last year so missed the US thing. Many over there seem to think it strange when people travel to a different state, never mind a different country.
Americans do. They live in a world that consists entirely of the US. :)
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Stop taking the piss. :)
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RyanDev wrote:
I haven't been there but from what I have heard morals almost don't exist there
Yeah, its a great place Europe. ;) Look, I live in France but I am contracting for a US firm who has an office in Gemany which is where I often work, though I sometimes go to the US to work at the head office. Although right now I am in Spain. ANd yes, I do travel a lot. :(
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Its kind of hard for gay parents to have kids.... :)
Erudite_Eric wrote:
Its kind of hard for gay parents to have kids.... :)
They may not be able to procreate with out medical intervention, but it seems there is a surplus of unwanted children and has been for quite some time.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet. The interesting thing about software is it can not reproduce, until it can.
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That is a phrase I am not familiar with here in the wonderful US of A and I don't think I want to be. :)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
In this case it means you are putting up a silly argument for funs sake.