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  • D Dalek Dave

    Clicky[^] I hope this doesn't put up the price of Danish Bacon!

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    While I respect all religions, (I too believe in God), holy requirements about what shall and shall not be eaten are pure BS. (Yes, and I know that for some of you the rest is pure BS as well, so no need to start a thread about it). Religions *might* have justification about very controversial positions (homosexuality, abortion, ... you get the picture- and with that I mean, you could possibly derive a logical argumentation for these, but I fail to see why a God should want me to only eat this and not that. I really fail to see the logical link, especially since it *could* mean cruelty for the slaughtered animals1, which, after all, are also creatures of God. 1. I know this is still controversial.

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      While I respect all religions, (I too believe in God), holy requirements about what shall and shall not be eaten are pure BS. (Yes, and I know that for some of you the rest is pure BS as well, so no need to start a thread about it). Religions *might* have justification about very controversial positions (homosexuality, abortion, ... you get the picture- and with that I mean, you could possibly derive a logical argumentation for these, but I fail to see why a God should want me to only eat this and not that. I really fail to see the logical link, especially since it *could* mean cruelty for the slaughtered animals1, which, after all, are also creatures of God. 1. I know this is still controversial.

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      I can understand food laws that were written 2000 years before refrigeration and meant for people living in a desert and without medicines. But hey, times have changed. We have hygiene now, and penicillin, and fridge-freezers. BS laws on crap like this only ridicule further the already ridiculous posturing of the religionists. Personally I dislike all religion, but especially the doctrines of cruelty found in them. From the abuse of helpless children to the misogynist views they all espouse, and especially cruelty to animals. I am not a veggie, I love meat, but I do not want my meat arriving on my plate via a cruel death.

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      • D Dalek Dave

        Clicky[^] I hope this doesn't put up the price of Danish Bacon!

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        I'd like to see such a law in Germany, i mean i love meat on my plate, but this Kind of slaughter is just dishonerable for animals.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Clicky[^] I hope this doesn't put up the price of Danish Bacon!

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          The article's a bit vague. A giraffe was slaughtered and fed to lions, but the picture shows one that was shot and autopsied. If they're not the same, maybe they need to just enact giraffe laws. Some of the comments were valid. And no, I don't eat halal.

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          • R Rage

            While I respect all religions, (I too believe in God), holy requirements about what shall and shall not be eaten are pure BS. (Yes, and I know that for some of you the rest is pure BS as well, so no need to start a thread about it). Religions *might* have justification about very controversial positions (homosexuality, abortion, ... you get the picture- and with that I mean, you could possibly derive a logical argumentation for these, but I fail to see why a God should want me to only eat this and not that. I really fail to see the logical link, especially since it *could* mean cruelty for the slaughtered animals1, which, after all, are also creatures of God. 1. I know this is still controversial.

            ~RaGE();

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            If you undo one religious edict, you can undo them all eventually. That means, it's not a religion anymore, but a clubhouse. Either leave the religion entirely or believe in it as is, IMO.

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            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

              If you undo one religious edict, you can undo them all eventually. That means, it's not a religion anymore, but a clubhouse. Either leave the religion entirely or believe in it as is, IMO.

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              How about the religion evolve and keep up with the times and changes around it? :confused: You can't apply everything that was written 2000 years ago directly to society today. :doh:

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              • J Johnny J

                How about the religion evolve and keep up with the times and changes around it? :confused: You can't apply everything that was written 2000 years ago directly to society today. :doh:

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                If you truly believe in a religion, then you must believe it is the Almighty's word. You cannot change "God's" words to keep up with the times. Leave the religion or stay. Changing it means you don't have faith, but you need someone to still tell you what to think.

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                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                  The article's a bit vague. A giraffe was slaughtered and fed to lions, but the picture shows one that was shot and autopsied. If they're not the same, maybe they need to just enact giraffe laws. Some of the comments were valid. And no, I don't eat halal.

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                  In my opinion, the two things have nothing to do with each other. I can understand people drawing parallels because of their nature, but both the religious slaughter and the slaughter of a healthy giraffe just because of space requirements are wrong and should be condemned. I signed a lot of petitions in favour of the giraffe, but in the end it seems it couldn't be stopped. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to stop both that and the religious animal torture. :doh:

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                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                    If you truly believe in a religion, then you must believe it is the Almighty's word. You cannot change "God's" words to keep up with the times. Leave the religion or stay. Changing it means you don't have faith, but you need someone to still tell you what to think.

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                    How about free will and thinking for yourself? If that's not allowed, then religion is merely a tool for the clever to oppress the stupid.

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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      The article's a bit vague. A giraffe was slaughtered and fed to lions, but the picture shows one that was shot and autopsied. If they're not the same, maybe they need to just enact giraffe laws. Some of the comments were valid. And no, I don't eat halal.

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                      Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                      I don't eat halal.

                      Article Quote:

                      "Not even zoo lions are allowed a taste of halal giraffe."

                      Apparently neither do zoo lions. :~

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                      • J Johnny J

                        In my opinion, the two things have nothing to do with each other. I can understand people drawing parallels because of their nature, but both the religious slaughter and the slaughter of a healthy giraffe just because of space requirements are wrong and should be condemned. I signed a lot of petitions in favour of the giraffe, but in the end it seems it couldn't be stopped. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to stop both that and the religious animal torture. :doh:

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        I don't disagree. However, getting the people angry over religiously sanctioned food by using something that appears to be completely irrelevant is proof that people are stupid and easily manipulated. Unfortunately, the government, corporations, and people have been doing that forever (almost every excuse for war comes to mind).

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Clicky[^] I hope this doesn't put up the price of Danish Bacon!

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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          I hope this doesn't put up the price of Danish Bacon!

                          Halal or Kosher bacon? :rolleyes:

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                          • J JimmyRopes

                            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                            I don't eat halal.

                            Article Quote:

                            "Not even zoo lions are allowed a taste of halal giraffe."

                            Apparently neither do zoo lions. :~

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                            I never said I don't eat giraffe. :)

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                              In my opinion, the two things have nothing to do with each other. I can understand people drawing parallels because of their nature, but both the religious slaughter and the slaughter of a healthy giraffe just because of space requirements are wrong and should be condemned. I signed a lot of petitions in favour of the giraffe, but in the end it seems it couldn't be stopped. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to stop both that and the religious animal torture. :doh:

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                              Johnny J. wrote:

                              I signed a lot of peririons petitions in favour of the giraffe

                              FTFY :-D

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                Clicky[^] I hope this doesn't put up the price of Danish Bacon!

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                                It is just a new religion Dave. Halal and Kosher bacon is called Facon and it is an abomination, yet Danish Bacon prices will rise anyway, no doubt.

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                                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                  I never said I don't eat giraffe. :)

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                                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                  I never said I don't eat giraffe.

                                  Just try to get Halal giraffe in Denmark these days. :-D

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                                  • J Johnny J

                                    How about free will and thinking for yourself? If that's not allowed, then religion is merely a tool for the clever to oppress the stupid.

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                                    Johnny J. wrote:

                                    How about free will and thinking for yourself? If that's not allowed, then religion is merely a tool for the clever to oppress the stupid.

                                    By all means! I'm absolutely against religion for that reason. However, if religion is meant to be modified by anyone, then it is not a religion, but a clubhouse as I stated. Personally, I enjoy more the philosophy of theology than religion because that allows room for discussion. If that's what you want, leave religion to those it brings peace and happiness to and find your own elsewhere. Saying religion should change goes against what religion is in my opinion, even if what it is is wrong to begin with.

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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      I hope this doesn't put up the price of Danish Bacon!

                                      Halal or Kosher bacon? :rolleyes:

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                                      It's the vegetarian option! :laugh:

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                                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                        I never said I don't eat giraffe.

                                        Just try to get Halal giraffe in Denmark these days. :-D

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                                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                        Again, I don't eat halal. So my giraffe supply is safe. :)

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                                        • J JimmyRopes

                                          Johnny J. wrote:

                                          I signed a lot of peririons petitions in favour of the giraffe

                                          FTFY :-D

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                                          Well, you might have signed petitions. I signed a lot of peririons. Hey, maybe that's why it didn't work! :doh:

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