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  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

    I'm in no mode for this.

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    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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    its just the standard deviation

    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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    • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

      its just the standard deviation

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      Bassam Abdul Baki
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      It's certainly not the norm for sure.

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      • J Jorgen Andersson

        Hmm, What's an american name? :doh: Serious question.

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        George Washington Carver.

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        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

          my arms dropped off after the first verse

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          OriginalGriff
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          Probably just as well: the Seven-Plus-Oneth verse is a killer!

          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

            It's certainly not the norm for sure.

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            OriginalGriff
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            It's a combination of things.

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              George Washington Carver.

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              Indeed.

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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              • E Erudite_Eric

                What part of the US are you in? It isn't that bad in the UK, no where near, only a few Asians, so I guess the US must have really pushed to get them over while at the same time Americans didn't fancy a life as a coder. Don't blame them, its a pretty crap job in many ways, and you have to be cut out for it.

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                CHill60
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                The reason for the fewer numbers in the UK is because all of the work has been shipped out to India! ;)

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                • R realJSOP

                  Walking around the office this morning, I counted name plates - five Americans and 26 Indian/Pakistani.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  You think that is bad, where I am currently has decided to move away from programmers and outsource (sole source) to two companies in India both convicted of felonies in the U.S. for Visa fraud. We have so many people on site that are rotated out ... in fact, some of them were involved in the recent Visa Fraud case. It isn't that there aren't enough developers in the United States but that companies think they don't need to have skill. Instead they outsource but don't insource the required staff to properly create specifications. So what you get is a large group of people that will say yes all the way until you hit a mountain. With no offense to any person from India, when I was learning to be a pilot I was warned by numerous instructors, When you here some one with an Accent from India be on the lookout, they will follow the rules into the ground. As a pilot with less than 200 hours I have had three encounters which I would say, "I am glad I was on the look out" but nothing reportable. Personally, I think outsource could be great but, I have yet to see a place where the programmers in house didn't spend the morning fixing the errors from overseas the previous night. I even worked at a place that gave the overseas people a "fake" environment and just did the work themselves because the offshore center did more bad than good.

                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                  • R realJSOP

                    Walking around the office this morning, I counted name plates - five Americans and 26 Indian/Pakistani.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    JimmyRopes
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Walking around the office this morning, I counted name plates - five Americans European immigrants and 26 Indian/Pakistani.

                    FTFY :-D What is more depressing that there are 5 European immigrants or there are 26 hard working folks? :~

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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      That's Dances With Wolves brother-in-law.

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                      peterchen
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                      There's also his half-cousin, Running From Wolves.

                      ORDER BY what user wants

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        Hmm, What's an american name? :doh: Serious question.

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                        JimmyRopes
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                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                        What's an american name?

                        White Eagle Running Bear Crazy Horse Geronimo Little Turtle Sitting Bull Abooksigun Abukcheech Akule Chochmingwu Choviohoya Kokyangwuti Naalnish Naalyehe ya sidahi Kohkahycumest Nahiossi And my favorite Kuwanyamtiwa - Beautiful badger going over the hill (Hopi) Names like that. :-D

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                        • J JimmyRopes

                          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                          What's an american name?

                          White Eagle Running Bear Crazy Horse Geronimo Little Turtle Sitting Bull Abooksigun Abukcheech Akule Chochmingwu Choviohoya Kokyangwuti Naalnish Naalyehe ya sidahi Kohkahycumest Nahiossi And my favorite Kuwanyamtiwa - Beautiful badger going over the hill (Hopi) Names like that. :-D

                          The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          You forgot Kumanawannalaya

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                          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                            John Simmons for one. :)

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                            JimmyRopes
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                            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                            John Simmons for one.

                            Wrong - European immigrant :~

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              You forgot Kumanawannalaya

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              How can I have forgotten Kumanawannalaya. :doh:

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                              • J jeron1

                                Remember, at some point Simmons was a foreign name.

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                                JimmyRopes
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                                jeron1 wrote:

                                Remember, at some point Simmons was a foreign name.

                                Simmons is a foreign name. :rolleyes:

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                                • R realJSOP

                                  Walking around the office this morning, I counted name plates - five Americans and 26 Indian/Pakistani.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                  Orjan Westin
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                                  I haven't been in a team in the UK where the majority is English for many years. Might have been in 2006, I think. Mind you, as soon as I join a team, the proportion of foreigners goes up.

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                                    I haven't been in a team in the UK where the majority is English for many years. Might have been in 2006, I think. Mind you, as soon as I join a team, the proportion of foreigners goes up.

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                                    JimmyRopes
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                                    Orjan Westin wrote:

                                    Mind you, as soon as I join a team, the proportion of foreigners goes up.

                                    Are you from India or Pakistan? :~

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                                    • R realJSOP

                                      Walking around the office this morning, I counted name plates - five Americans and 26 Indian/Pakistani.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      BillWoodruff
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                                      Well, you have been auditioning for the role of "endangering species" for years; looks like you finally found the theater, and the play. As we say in showbiz: "break a leg."

                                      “The best hope is that one of these days the Ground will get disgusted enough just to walk away ~ leaving people with nothing more to stand ON than what they have so bloody well stood FOR up to now.” Kenneth Patchen, Poet

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                                      • C CHill60

                                        The reason for the fewer numbers in the UK is because all of the work has been shipped out to India! ;)

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                                        Erudite_Eric
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                                        Yeah, that has happened. Same for US firms too though, but how come so many ended up in the US though?

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                                        • J JimmyRopes

                                          jeron1 wrote:

                                          Remember, at some point Simmons was a foreign name.

                                          Simmons is a foreign name. :rolleyes:

                                          The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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                                          jeron1
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                                          Tough crowd!

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