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  • O Orjan Westin

    I haven't been in a team in the UK where the majority is English for many years. Might have been in 2006, I think. Mind you, as soon as I join a team, the proportion of foreigners goes up.

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    JimmyRopes
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    Orjan Westin wrote:

    Mind you, as soon as I join a team, the proportion of foreigners goes up.

    Are you from India or Pakistan? :~

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    • C CHill60

      The reason for the fewer numbers in the UK is because all of the work has been shipped out to India! ;)

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      Erudite_Eric
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      Yeah, that has happened. Same for US firms too though, but how come so many ended up in the US though?

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      • J JimmyRopes

        jeron1 wrote:

        Remember, at some point Simmons was a foreign name.

        Simmons is a foreign name. :rolleyes:

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        jeron1
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        Tough crowd!

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        • J JimmyRopes

          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

          What's an american name?

          White Eagle Running Bear Crazy Horse Geronimo Little Turtle Sitting Bull Abooksigun Abukcheech Akule Chochmingwu Choviohoya Kokyangwuti Naalnish Naalyehe ya sidahi Kohkahycumest Nahiossi And my favorite Kuwanyamtiwa - Beautiful badger going over the hill (Hopi) Names like that. :-D

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          My point exactly.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Only inside Discos.

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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            Dan Neely
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            GAH! NO![^] \m/

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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            • J Jorgen Andersson

              My point exactly.

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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              JimmyRopes
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              Jörgen Andersson wrote:

              What's an american name?

              Thank you for giving me an opportunity to give respect to Native Americans. Although they also immigrated to the Americas from Asia, albeit a long time ago.

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              • J jeron1

                Tough crowd!

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                JimmyRopes
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                I tell it like it is. :-D

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                • R realJSOP

                  Walking around the office this morning, I counted name plates - five Americans and 26 Indian/Pakistani.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  Indian/Pakistani

                  In the same office sitting next to each other is a feat in and of itself. --- In our office we have Chinese, Indians and quite a few first gen. Russians. Problem occurs at lunch when food aromas woft through the air many very delicious, or when one wants to run up and down the stairwell at lunch and there is someone doing Tai Chi on one of the landings in the stairwell.

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Indian/Pakistani

                    In the same office sitting next to each other is a feat in and of itself. --- In our office we have Chinese, Indians and quite a few first gen. Russians. Problem occurs at lunch when food aromas woft through the air many very delicious, or when one wants to run up and down the stairwell at lunch and there is someone doing Tai Chi on one of the landings in the stairwell.

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                    Eggbert Bartholomew Bligh wrote:

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Indian/Pakistani

                    In the same office sitting next to each other is a feat in and of itself.

                    Talk about depression. :suss:

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                    • E Erudite_Eric

                      What part of the US are you in? It isn't that bad in the UK, no where near, only a few Asians, so I guess the US must have really pushed to get them over while at the same time Americans didn't fancy a life as a coder. Don't blame them, its a pretty crap job in many ways, and you have to be cut out for it.

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                      SinghUlarity
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                      You should have been in India 250 years ago when it was really bad. We had all these light colored dudes walking around torturing people and acting as if they ruled us.

                      I are n00b.

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                      • J JimmyRopes

                        Orjan Westin wrote:

                        Mind you, as soon as I join a team, the proportion of foreigners goes up.

                        Are you from India or Pakistan? :~

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                        Orjan Westin
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                        Nope, but I've happily worked with both. Something that has struck me over the last fifteen years or so, however, is that any group of programmers from India is likely to have more women than a similarly sized group of programmers from Europe.

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                        • O Orjan Westin

                          Nope, but I've happily worked with both. Something that has struck me over the last fifteen years or so, however, is that any group of programmers from India is likely to have more women than a similarly sized group of programmers from Europe.

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                          JimmyRopes
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                          Orjan Westin wrote:

                          any group of programmers from India is likely to have more women than a similarly sized group of programmers from Europe.

                          That is a good thing. :cool:

                          The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                          • R realJSOP

                            Walking around the office this morning, I counted name plates - five Americans and 26 Indian/Pakistani.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Rutvik Dave
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                            Guess what? You forgot to count yourself, which makes the total count 32. There... how do you feel now? ;P Seriously JSOP, look at CP, it's just hamsters working really hard, and Chris and bunch of other people are taking all the credit, while Bob still rocks! Who cares?

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                            • O Orjan Westin

                              I haven't been in a team in the UK where the majority is English for many years. Might have been in 2006, I think. Mind you, as soon as I join a team, the proportion of foreigners goes up.

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                              chriselst
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                              Our dev team in the UK has 1 Welsh surname, 1 Scots, 3 Irish, 1 Indian, 2 Pakistani, 1 Nigerian, 6 English (whatever that means), although that doesn't match the nationalities or skin colours, and doesn't tell you what accents they have.

                              Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

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                              • R Rutvik Dave

                                Guess what? You forgot to count yourself, which makes the total count 32. There... how do you feel now? ;P Seriously JSOP, look at CP, it's just hamsters working really hard, and Chris and bunch of other people are taking all the credit, while Bob still rocks! Who cares?

                                Remind Me This - Manage, Collaborate and Execute your Project in the Cloud

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                                JimmyRopes
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                                Rutvik Dave wrote:

                                Guess what? You forgot to count yourself

                                Simmons is not Native American. He is just another European immigrant. :~

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                                  Orjan Westin wrote:

                                  Mind you, as soon as I join a team, the proportion of foreigners goes up.

                                  Are you from India or Pakistan? :~

                                  The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                                  Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  His name is missing two dots, otherwise I'd have guessed he's from Sweden. BTW, your link to ProActive Secure Systems fails with a "500 Internal Server Error"

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                  • S SinghUlarity

                                    You should have been in India 250 years ago when it was really bad. We had all these light colored dudes walking around torturing people and acting as if they ruled us.

                                    I are n00b.

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                                    Keith Barrow
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                                    That's nothing, 250 years ago we kept running across vast tracts of land where the people were incapable of running themselves.

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                                    I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

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                                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                                      His name is missing two dots, otherwise I'd have guessed he's from Sweden. BTW, your link to ProActive Secure Systems fails with a "500 Internal Server Error"

                                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                      JimmyRopes
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                                      Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                      BTW, your link to ProActive Secure Systems fails with a "500 Internal Server Error"

                                      Yes, thank you, I moved servers and didn't update that web site. I spent 2 years working on it but ran out of money, story of my life, before it was completed. I will remove the link. If I can figure out how?

                                      The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                                        His name is missing two dots, otherwise I'd have guessed he's from Sweden. BTW, your link to ProActive Secure Systems fails with a "500 Internal Server Error"

                                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                        JimmyRopes
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                                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                        BTW, your link to ProActive Secure Systems fails with a "500 Internal Server Error"

                                        Yes, thank you, I moved servers and didn't update that web site. I spent 2 years working on it but ran out of money, story of my life, before it was completed. I will remove the link. If I can figure out how?

                                        The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                                        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                        Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                          BTW, your link to ProActive Secure Systems fails with a "500 Internal Server Error"

                                          Yes, thank you, I moved servers and didn't update that web site. I spent 2 years working on it but ran out of money, story of my life, before it was completed. I will remove the link. If I can figure out how?

                                          The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
                                          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                          JimmyRopes
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                                          just to see signature

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