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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    ...two buttons you don't really need is "a lot better"? :laugh:

    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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    ed welch
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    Two buttons... which I use *all* the time, so yes they are important. But also, lots of other stuff, the ui just seems to be organised much better

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    • R Ravi Bhavnani

      See this[^] post. :) /ravi

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      ed welch
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      expensive though. You can get classic shell for free

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        expensive though. You can get classic shell for free

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        Ravi Bhavnani
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        It's only $5.  Classic Shell is nice but doesn't give you everything that Start8 does. /ravi

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          That's easy.  Just use Start8[^].  I also use a few registry hacks to make my Win8 look like Win7.  Here's[^] what my Win8 task bar looks like. /ravi

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          Forogar
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          Oooo! I am glad VS2010 still runs on it. I would hate to have to use VS2012 as well as W8!

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            See post above...

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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            Jacques Loubser
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            Have you heard of Crtl+C & Ctrl+V ??? Unless you have only one hand, You should not need buttons.

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              Have you heard of Crtl+C & Ctrl+V ??? Unless you have only one hand, You should not need buttons.

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              OriginalGriff
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              I don't surf one-handed...

              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                Oooo! I am glad VS2010 still runs on it. I would hate to have to use VS2012 as well as W8!

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                Ravi Bhavnani
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                Yes, VS2010 runs flawlessly on Win8.  It's still my favorite version of VS. :) /ravi

                My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  Two buttons... which I use *all* the time, so yes they are important. But also, lots of other stuff, the ui just seems to be organised much better

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                  LloydA111
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                  You use buttons "all" the time when Ctrl + C/V is all you need?

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                  • L LloydA111

                    You use buttons "all" the time when Ctrl + C/V is all you need?

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                    Bill_Hallahan
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                    Lloyd Atkinson wrote:

                    You use buttons "all" the time when Ctrl + C/V is all you need?

                    True. And if he doesn't want to use his other hand, then after selecting files and/or folders, right-click and select the "Copy" menu item, followed by right-clicking in the destination location and selecting the "Paste" menu item. It only takes one hand and there is no need to navigate the mouse to a button location.

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                      I finally took the plunge and upgraded to 8.1. After getting rid of Metro, it's actually not that bad. File manager is a lot better than Windows 7 file manager. Of coarse, there's tonnes of things that don't work properly (hibernation, large fonts, etc.), but that's just the par of the coarse when you have a Microsoft OS.

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                      coarse or course? ahem. Bryce

                      MCAD ---

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                      • L LloydA111

                        You use buttons "all" the time when Ctrl + C/V is all you need?

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                        ed welch
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                        you need two hands to activate the shortcut, so you have to take your hand off the mouse and that slows you down. Really there's no reason no to have a toolbar button. It's not like there's no room

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                        • E ed welch

                          I finally took the plunge and upgraded to 8.1. After getting rid of Metro, it's actually not that bad. File manager is a lot better than Windows 7 file manager. Of coarse, there's tonnes of things that don't work properly (hibernation, large fonts, etc.), but that's just the par of the coarse when you have a Microsoft OS.

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                          Colborne_Greg
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                          Lol To remove metro from windows 8 is to remove all advancement in technology, while you use compatibility mode aka the desktop. Brilliant: viva la resistance

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                          • L LloydA111

                            You use buttons "all" the time when Ctrl + C/V is all you need?

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                            JeremyBob
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                            Remember, windows is for the masses, not just the power users. Otherwise we would all just be called users. Personally I actually enjoy a lot of windows 8 (Except NewUI which I find stupid on my dev machine!) But they have improved a lot of system functionality. Saying that though, I really really miss the prettiness of Windows 7. I want my transparency options back.

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                            • E ed welch

                              I finally took the plunge and upgraded to 8.1. After getting rid of Metro, it's actually not that bad. File manager is a lot better than Windows 7 file manager. Of coarse, there's tonnes of things that don't work properly (hibernation, large fonts, etc.), but that's just the par of the coarse when you have a Microsoft OS.

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                              Clumpco
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                              A word of warning about your old backups... Windows 8 had a "restore from Windows 7 backup" option which would read backups from W7 and Vista. In their wisdom Microsoft have removed this from 8.1 so you need to "Install Win 7 on a VM and restore via that" (seen on Technet). I can just imagine old grannies turning up at PC World asking for help with Hyper-V Manager.

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                                ed welch wrote:

                                After getting rid of Metro

                                How did you do that?

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                                xiecsuk
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                                I guess he means that you set your system up to boot directly to the Desktop. You also set it up to go to the Apps screen when you select the System button so you never need see the Start screen at all. My Win 8.1 system looks exactly like my Win 7 system most days. There are odd times when I need the Apps screen to start a system app, or play a game or two over lunch, but I never go into the Start screen.

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                                  you need two hands to activate the shortcut, so you have to take your hand off the mouse and that slows you down. Really there's no reason no to have a toolbar button. It's not like there's no room

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                                  hairy_hats
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                                  Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V are one-handed (left-hand) shortcuts unless you have particularly small hands. Pinky on Ctrl, forefinger on C then V. I can do Ctrl-N left-handed without discomfort.

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                                    A word of warning about your old backups... Windows 8 had a "restore from Windows 7 backup" option which would read backups from W7 and Vista. In their wisdom Microsoft have removed this from 8.1 so you need to "Install Win 7 on a VM and restore via that" (seen on Technet). I can just imagine old grannies turning up at PC World asking for help with Hyper-V Manager.

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                                    SortaCore
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                                    "Excuse me dear, can you help me with my hyper man?" "Your what?"

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                                    • E ed welch

                                      I finally took the plunge and upgraded to 8.1. After getting rid of Metro, it's actually not that bad. File manager is a lot better than Windows 7 file manager. Of coarse, there's tonnes of things that don't work properly (hibernation, large fonts, etc.), but that's just the par of the coarse when you have a Microsoft OS.

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                                      BobJanova
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                                      Do we have functionality from previous versions back yet, i.e. - Classic theme and full customisation options for window colours - Useful status bar information in Explorer (total size when selecting multiple, version information when selecting single) - Bye bye Metro by default - Double clicking various common file formats (PDF, AVI at least) doesn't open full screen Metro apps by default

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                                        Lol To remove metro from windows 8 is to remove all advancement in technology, while you use compatibility mode aka the desktop. Brilliant: viva la resistance

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                                        BobJanova
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                                        Metro is absolutely not an advance for PC users (maybe it is for tablet). It is a reversion to one-app-at-a-time computing which Microsoft correctly decided was outdated in 1990 when they brought out Windows. With two 1080p monitors and multi-core CPUs to play with it's even more nonsensical now than it was then.

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                                          Oooo! I am glad VS2010 still runs on it. I would hate to have to use VS2012 as well as W8!

                                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                          Erkan BALABAN
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                                          Also you can install and use VS2008. I installed and i am using.

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