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  • B BobJanova

    Everyone uses 'Metro' to mean the non-desktop crappy interface in W8. Microsoft initially called it that (see 'Metro styling' all over the web) and it's stuck even though they changed their mind on that. If you don't realise that and think we're talking about the back-end improvements to the OS then your confusion and posts start to make a bit of sense.

    Colborne_Greg wrote:

    I suggest you take training on windows 8 to educate yourself on every aspect.

    Well, no, actually I think I'll just keep using software (and that includes OSs) that makes itself easy to use. In my case that means Classic Shell to hide most of the W8 insanity.

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    The user interface of the metro mode is what I am talking about. Metro is mainly about screen partitioning. see that black line - it treats each section of the screen like its own screen (not window, not application) so when an application such as a desktop or a not well thought out metro app - it is put into full screen and given absolute focus; allowing you to control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do. Again educate yourself

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      The user interface of the metro mode is what I am talking about. Metro is mainly about screen partitioning. see that black line - it treats each section of the screen like its own screen (not window, not application) so when an application such as a desktop or a not well thought out metro app - it is put into full screen and given absolute focus; allowing you to control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do. Again educate yourself

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      Screen partitioning, even if it is allowed by the Metro UI (I've never seen it do anything other than run apps full screen), is still vastly inferior to window overlapping as in classic windowed UIs (not just Windows but Mac OS, Unix/Linux window managers and right back to Acorn). I've currently got 10 windows visible on my screens, but 8 of them are just corners sticking out for when I need them.

      allowing you to control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do

      :confused: It is easy to control multiple programs at once in a windowed UI, that's the whole point!

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        The user interface of the metro mode is what I am talking about. Metro is mainly about screen partitioning. see that black line - it treats each section of the screen like its own screen (not window, not application) so when an application such as a desktop or a not well thought out metro app - it is put into full screen and given absolute focus; allowing you to control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do. Again educate yourself

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        control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do

        You are obviously uneducated! Perhaps you should go on a "desktop" training course where you will learn that the desktop UI is capable of supporting multiple programs at the same time - in fact it does this all the time.

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        Metro is a marvel of absolute programming perfection.

        What on earth have you been drinking? Or are you a religious fanatic? That is the only time I see someone as vehement about an obviously flawed design philosophy as this statement of yours clearly shows! I am worried about you now. I am glad you don't know where I live.

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        It is Windows RT

        No, it isn't. At least not all of it.

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        The desktop in windows 8 is a metro app

        It doesn't seem to run well in a tile. It appears to take over the entire desktop! It appears to be runnable without Metro being there at all so how is it a Metro app? I have more points but I am getting tired of typing - and trying to have a reasoned discussion with a religious fanatic. I should have known better.

        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do

          You are obviously uneducated! Perhaps you should go on a "desktop" training course where you will learn that the desktop UI is capable of supporting multiple programs at the same time - in fact it does this all the time.

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          Metro is a marvel of absolute programming perfection.

          What on earth have you been drinking? Or are you a religious fanatic? That is the only time I see someone as vehement about an obviously flawed design philosophy as this statement of yours clearly shows! I am worried about you now. I am glad you don't know where I live.

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          It is Windows RT

          No, it isn't. At least not all of it.

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          The desktop in windows 8 is a metro app

          It doesn't seem to run well in a tile. It appears to take over the entire desktop! It appears to be runnable without Metro being there at all so how is it a Metro app? I have more points but I am getting tired of typing - and trying to have a reasoned discussion with a religious fanatic. I should have known better.

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          Colborne_Greg
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          The desktop can not have focus to two applications at the same time key word there is focus This means I can type using the keyboard into one app Use my mouse in another app while playing a game in the third with my gamepad the desktop is a piece of shit - grow new skills

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          • B BobJanova

            Screen partitioning, even if it is allowed by the Metro UI (I've never seen it do anything other than run apps full screen), is still vastly inferior to window overlapping as in classic windowed UIs (not just Windows but Mac OS, Unix/Linux window managers and right back to Acorn). I've currently got 10 windows visible on my screens, but 8 of them are just corners sticking out for when I need them.

            allowing you to control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do

            :confused: It is easy to control multiple programs at once in a windowed UI, that's the whole point!

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            Colborne_Greg
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            Two windows can not have focus at the same time

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              The desktop can not have focus to two applications at the same time key word there is focus This means I can type using the keyboard into one app Use my mouse in another app while playing a game in the third with my gamepad the desktop is a piece of shit - grow new skills

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              Forogar
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              grow new skills

              I think growing an extra arm would be more appropriate based on your claiming to operate on three windows at once! Having multiple input focii is just plain silly!

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                grow new skills

                I think growing an extra arm would be more appropriate based on your claiming to operate on three windows at once! Having multiple input focii is just plain silly!

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                Colborne_Greg
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                Multiple users The tablet is how I discovered it, I had a map half screen, and IE on the other, I was finding directions and my girlfriend started playing around on IE - which worked wonderfully while I searched for directions. Back at home with multiple monitors I am able to play a full screen game while she uses the secondary monitor.

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                  Multiple users The tablet is how I discovered it, I had a map half screen, and IE on the other, I was finding directions and my girlfriend started playing around on IE - which worked wonderfully while I searched for directions. Back at home with multiple monitors I am able to play a full screen game while she uses the secondary monitor.

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                  Forogar
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                  It will all end in tears!

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  • F Forogar

                    It will all end in tears!

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    Colborne_Greg
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                    I write metro apps I wrote Unidex, it will replace SQL ;)

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                      I write metro apps I wrote Unidex, it will replace SQL ;)

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                      Forogar
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                      I write metro apps I wrote Unidex, it will replace SQL

                      I rest my case - twice!

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                      • F Forogar

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                        I write metro apps I wrote Unidex, it will replace SQL

                        I rest my case - twice!

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        Colborne_Greg
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                        The case being? In agile development you'd be the guy in the back that resists change at all cost and denies things without reason.

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                        • C Colborne_Greg

                          The case being? In agile development you'd be the guy in the back that resists change at all cost and denies things without reason.

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                          In agile development you'd be the guy in the back that resists change at all cost and denies things without reason.

                          Actually, I am a Certified ScrumMaster and avid agile developer so you are wrong... again. "I rest my case" means I am totally fed up of arguing with a pedantic, fanatical and frankly annoying [expletive deleted]!

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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