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  • S SoMad

    Yeah, I have figured out what the term means, I just really hate it.

    Quote:

    "For a fresher, your fundas are pretty damn good."

    So, the IndianTextSpeak version is something like "4 a frshr, ur fndz rock" :-\ Soren Madsen

    "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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    dan sh
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    You racist European! Indians would say, "4 a frshr, fnds r dmn gd"

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    • N Nish Nishant

      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

      "fresher" == college freshman (i.e. "novice")

      Are you sure? I always assumed what people meant is that they are "fresh" out of college (usually an under-grad / bachelor's) and have zero experience professionally.

      Regards, Nish


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      Ravi Bhavnani
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      Yes, I'm sure.  In the 70s, it was a given that all IIT freshers (freshmen) were ragged (hazed). :) /ravi

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      • R Ravi Bhavnani

        Yes, I'm sure.  In the 70s, it was a given that all IIT freshers (freshmen) were ragged (hazed). :) /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        Nish Nishant
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        Okay, it's possible that recently it's assumed a new meaning. The OP does not seem to be a college freshman, and seems to be someone looking for a job.

        Regards, Nish


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        • N Nish Nishant

          Okay, it's possible that recently it's assumed a new meaning. The OP does not seem to be a college freshman, and seems to be someone looking for a job.

          Regards, Nish


          Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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          Ravi Bhavnani
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          I think the generic meaning of fresher is "noob".  A fresher at university is a freshman, a fresher at a law firm would be a junior associate (who has yet to pass the bar exam), a fresher at McKinsey would probably be someone they hired right out of school, etc. I (literally) hate to say it, but a "CP fresher" would probably be a CPian with less than 1K points. /ravi

          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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          • R Ravi Bhavnani

            I think the generic meaning of fresher is "noob".  A fresher at university is a freshman, a fresher at a law firm would be a junior associate (who has yet to pass the bar exam), a fresher at McKinsey would probably be someone they hired right out of school, etc. I (literally) hate to say it, but a "CP fresher" would probably be a CPian with less than 1K points. /ravi

            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            Nish Nishant
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            Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

            I (literally) hate to say it, but a "CP fresher" would probably be a CPian with less than 1K points.

            :laugh:

            Regards, Nish


            Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview

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            • A Ashwin2013

              Hello CPs I would like some ideas and advises from senior CPs and experienced programmers. I am interested in programming and security(as in hacking). I am a novice in C++,C#,VB.NET. I learnt Penetration testing and hacking for becoming a security professional. But my problem now is I don't know which field to choose. 1)Developer or 2)Security Professional. 1)If I am going to be a developer what kind of applications I want to develop a)Software Applications b)Web Developing c)Game Developing As you can see each field is different from each other. I really love games and want to go for game programming but I'm not really good with equations and complex calculations. But I can learn any programming language/framework and its features. 2)As a security professional, There are lot of Job titles. I think its basically Penetration testing, Administration and Analyst. I am greatly inspired by the whole hacking thing. But not a lot of startup positions are available as a hacker(White-hat). So I am really confused here. So this is my career stating point(Fresher). So I would like your suggestions and insights on this. Because I can start shaping myself for the path I choose now. Thanks in advance friends If this is in the wrong section, Please help to move it and I am sorry if my English is bad.

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              Lost User
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              Completely off topic but I hate the term "penetration testing". Sounds like something a pimp would do.

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              • A Ashwin2013

                Hello CPs I would like some ideas and advises from senior CPs and experienced programmers. I am interested in programming and security(as in hacking). I am a novice in C++,C#,VB.NET. I learnt Penetration testing and hacking for becoming a security professional. But my problem now is I don't know which field to choose. 1)Developer or 2)Security Professional. 1)If I am going to be a developer what kind of applications I want to develop a)Software Applications b)Web Developing c)Game Developing As you can see each field is different from each other. I really love games and want to go for game programming but I'm not really good with equations and complex calculations. But I can learn any programming language/framework and its features. 2)As a security professional, There are lot of Job titles. I think its basically Penetration testing, Administration and Analyst. I am greatly inspired by the whole hacking thing. But not a lot of startup positions are available as a hacker(White-hat). So I am really confused here. So this is my career stating point(Fresher). So I would like your suggestions and insights on this. Because I can start shaping myself for the path I choose now. Thanks in advance friends If this is in the wrong section, Please help to move it and I am sorry if my English is bad.

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                Bill_Hallahan
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                A developer has enormously more freedom than a security expert. You can write programs that play chess, process images; video; 3D scenes; audio; that implement radar systems, medical applications, finance applications, business application, network servers, network clients, implement device drivers, do operating system development, do oil exploration, etc.. Any list I could put here would barely scratch the surface of the breadth of general software development. A good software developer often has to develop expertise that is related to the domain where the software will be used. If you're writing a chess program, you have to know how to play chess. If you're writing an imaging processing program, it's useful to know something about color science. It's not that the field of software security isn't a broad and interesting field, but it is more limited than general software development. As to which field will have more high paying jobs in the future, I have no data on that. However, my answer to you isn't based on what I wrote above. Do whatever you love to do. That's more important than money. If you don't like doing your job, you won't excel at it.

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                • S SoMad

                  Yeah, I have figured out what the term means, I just really hate it.

                  Quote:

                  "For a fresher, your fundas are pretty damn good."

                  So, the IndianTextSpeak version is something like "4 a frshr, ur fndz rock" :-\ Soren Madsen

                  "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                  But it seems to be ok for Aussies, Brits and Kiwis to have their own words in the English language....

                  Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                    But it seems to be ok for Aussies, Brits and Kiwis to have their own words in the English language....

                    Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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                    SoMad
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                    Don't worry, I am sure there are plenty of their words I hate as well ;) . On a serious note, please don't take this as an attack on Indians - I did not know the OP was Indian and I did not know that term is specifically used by Indians. Soren Madsen

                    "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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                    • A Ashwin2013

                      Hello CPs I would like some ideas and advises from senior CPs and experienced programmers. I am interested in programming and security(as in hacking). I am a novice in C++,C#,VB.NET. I learnt Penetration testing and hacking for becoming a security professional. But my problem now is I don't know which field to choose. 1)Developer or 2)Security Professional. 1)If I am going to be a developer what kind of applications I want to develop a)Software Applications b)Web Developing c)Game Developing As you can see each field is different from each other. I really love games and want to go for game programming but I'm not really good with equations and complex calculations. But I can learn any programming language/framework and its features. 2)As a security professional, There are lot of Job titles. I think its basically Penetration testing, Administration and Analyst. I am greatly inspired by the whole hacking thing. But not a lot of startup positions are available as a hacker(White-hat). So I am really confused here. So this is my career stating point(Fresher). So I would like your suggestions and insights on this. Because I can start shaping myself for the path I choose now. Thanks in advance friends If this is in the wrong section, Please help to move it and I am sorry if my English is bad.

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                      JimmyRopes
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                      Get a job. :suss:

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                      • S SoMad

                        Don't worry, I am sure there are plenty of their words I hate as well ;) . On a serious note, please don't take this as an attack on Indians - I did not know the OP was Indian and I did not know that term is specifically used by Indians. Soren Madsen

                        "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                        SoMad wrote:

                        Don't worry, I am sure there are plenty of their words I hate as well

                        Touche! :-D

                        Cheers, विक्रम "We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread :doh:

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