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  • M Marc Clifton

    Eric Goedhart wrote:

    in the online editor

    I know I'm archaic, but I write all my articles in FrontPage and just paste the HTML into the online editor. At most, I use it to add "code" tags. Marc

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    Eric Goedhart
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    Hi Mark, FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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    • S Steve Wellens

      I agree. I would rather use NotePad to edit the raw HTML. I'd be surprised if anyone used it for anything longer than a paragraph.

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      Eric Goedhart
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      Hi, You know HTML5 has these <Article></Article> tags and so on... I think it would be faster to write an article that way :thumbsup:

      With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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      • E Eric Goedhart

        Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

        With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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        OriginalGriff
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        If it's any consolation, I still spend more time swearing at the article editor (and repairing the damage it did) than I do writing the articles! I tend to switch it to HTML mode and use it as a "glorified notepad with a preview button" as it annoys me a lot less that way...:laugh:

        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          If it's any consolation, I still spend more time swearing at the article editor (and repairing the damage it did) than I do writing the articles! I tend to switch it to HTML mode and use it as a "glorified notepad with a preview button" as it annoys me a lot less that way...:laugh:

          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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          Eric Goedhart
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          Haha, I just moved recently to Amsterdam (an apartment block) and this afternoon when I was working with the Editor I was saying words my new neighbours perhaps wouldn't appreciate and possibly could hear ,when I realised that I made myself a cup of coffee and calmed down :) When the anger again came up I wrote this post :)

          With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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            Haha, I just moved recently to Amsterdam (an apartment block) and this afternoon when I was working with the Editor I was saying words my new neighbours perhaps wouldn't appreciate and possibly could hear ,when I realised that I made myself a cup of coffee and calmed down :) When the anger again came up I wrote this post :)

            With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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            OriginalGriff
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            Fortunately, the walls here are 60cm thick and made of granite, so very little gets through them - and certainly no sound! :laugh:

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Fortunately, the walls here are 60cm thick and made of granite, so very little gets through them - and certainly no sound! :laugh:

              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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              Richard Deeming
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              So, what you're saying is, in OG's house, no one can hear you bleat! :baaaa!: ;P


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              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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              • E Eric Goedhart

                Hi Mark, FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

                With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                Marc Clifton
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                Eric Goedhart wrote:

                FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

                Quite so. It used to be the way people published static web pages. I still like it as an article editor because of it's split view (HTML / text) but there's more modern editors that do the same thing. Marc

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                  I agree. I would rather use NotePad to edit the raw HTML. I'd be surprised if anyone used it for anything longer than a paragraph.

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  Steve Wellens wrote:

                  I'd be surprised if anyone used it for anything longer than a paragraph.

                  All my articles have been written entirely* with Notepad. * Excepting that the code wasn't written in Notepad; however, I do the < and > replacements in Notepad.

                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                  • E Eric Goedhart

                    Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

                    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    I quickly gave up on the editor and started writing in VS instead. Just remember to exchange all < and > inside pre tags to < and < before you paste it into the editor.

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                    • E Eric Goedhart

                      Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

                      With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                      Marco Bertschi
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                      Trust me, the new one is a lot better and don't messses up formattings.

                      I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                      How to ask a question

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                      • M Marco Bertschi

                        Trust me, the new one is a lot better and don't messses up formattings.

                        I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                        How to ask a question

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                        Eric Goedhart
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                        Hi, I'm going to give that a try tomorrow then but I hope they fixed the upload also since the code (VS project) was to big for the old one.

                        With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                        • E Eric Goedhart

                          Hi, I'm going to give that a try tomorrow then but I hope they fixed the upload also since the code (VS project) was to big for the old one.

                          With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                          Marco Bertschi
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                          Drop me an email if you need help, I worked a fair bit with the new one already.

                          I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                          How to ask a question

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                          • M Marco Bertschi

                            Drop me an email if you need help, I worked a fair bit with the new one already.

                            I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                            How to ask a question

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                            Eric Goedhart
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                            Thank Marco I will if needed :thumbsup:

                            With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Eric Goedhart wrote:

                              FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

                              Quite so. It used to be the way people published static web pages. I still like it as an article editor because of it's split view (HTML / text) but there's more modern editors that do the same thing. Marc

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                              JimmyRopes
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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              It used to be the way people who did not know how to write HTML published static web pages. It would turn even simple pages into monstrosities with multiple tables embedded within tables. embedded within tables, ...

                              FTFY X|

                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              I still like it because I can watch the poor slob assigned to update the page struggle to do even simple things like add a control onto a page some graphic artist slapped together and passed off as a web page.

                              FTFY :mad: <rant> Sorry I just had to vent. I used to do some contract work for a web video company* and they hired this graphic artist to put a new face on their web site. Needless to say she couldn't do simple things like add a video to the page, something essential for a web video company to have, so I would have to wade through tons of really crap code to find where I could add the control. </rant> * - I used to package completed videos and video players for their clients so they could drop them on their web pages with a minimum of effort. Did I mention that I hate Frontpage. :~

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                              • E Eric Goedhart

                                Hi, I wrote my article offline but in Open Office and exported it as a .Pdf , but perhaps its an idea to just send it by email :)

                                With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                                Lost User
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                                You can download the skeleton article and build it offline using that, then submit as a Zip file. Takes a bit longer to get published but it tends to work.

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                                  Trust me, the new one is a lot better and don't messses up formattings.

                                  I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                                  How to ask a question

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                                  BotCar
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                                  That's good to know. I tried publishing a tip a while ago. I wrote the HTML offline and pasted it into the editor's HTML view. I noticed that if I switch to the WYSIWYG view, the code segments are all messed up. So I made sure to stick to the HTML view only, and used the preview functionality to ensure that it displayed correctly. Unfortunately, once the tip went through moderation, the formatting was messed up again.

                                  What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    Fortunately, the walls here are 60cm thick and made of granite, so very little gets through them - and certainly no sound! :laugh:

                                    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                    Rage
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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    the walls here are 60cm thick

                                    Hey, you never mentioned that you live in a castle (or does everybody in Wales do ?)

                                    ~RaGE();

                                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      the walls here are 60cm thick

                                      Hey, you never mentioned that you live in a castle (or does everybody in Wales do ?)

                                      ~RaGE();

                                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                      :laugh: It's not a castle, it's a cottage! But it's a couple hundred years old, and it's built of local materials: "riverstone", which is basically granite that has been dragged down from the mountains by the river and bashed so many times it's probably harder than diamond... Because it's hard, you don't cut or split it unless you really, really have to - so the walls have to be thick to support themselves. Worse, they use a lime mortar which you can't cover with a modern plaster because it needs to breathe. It means they are cool in summer, and once heated - which takes a lot - warm in winter. And they will probably still be here in another couple of hundred years, which modern building methods don't encourage... The downsides are the line mortar, complete absence of right angles or straight lines, and that just putting up a shelf needs industrial strength drilling equipment and a lot of luck! :laugh: When the neighbours had an extension, the builder wore out two water-cooled diamond cutting discs before giving up on cutting a door hole and demolished a chunk of wall instead...

                                      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                        :laugh: It's not a castle, it's a cottage! But it's a couple hundred years old, and it's built of local materials: "riverstone", which is basically granite that has been dragged down from the mountains by the river and bashed so many times it's probably harder than diamond... Because it's hard, you don't cut or split it unless you really, really have to - so the walls have to be thick to support themselves. Worse, they use a lime mortar which you can't cover with a modern plaster because it needs to breathe. It means they are cool in summer, and once heated - which takes a lot - warm in winter. And they will probably still be here in another couple of hundred years, which modern building methods don't encourage... The downsides are the line mortar, complete absence of right angles or straight lines, and that just putting up a shelf needs industrial strength drilling equipment and a lot of luck! :laugh: When the neighbours had an extension, the builder wore out two water-cooled diamond cutting discs before giving up on cutting a door hole and demolished a chunk of wall instead...

                                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                        This is great ! Totally sounds like somewhere I would love to live ! :cool:

                                        ~RaGE();

                                        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                          This is great ! Totally sounds like somewhere I would love to live ! :cool:

                                          ~RaGE();

                                          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                          You either love 'em or you hate 'em. If you love 'em, you get used to the drawbacks - Cat 5 cabling was a nightmare - and just enjoy the solid, comfortable "feel" of the place. If you enjoy living in a square box that is identical to all your neighbours then you'd hate it! :laugh:

                                          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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