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  • E Eric Goedhart

    Haha, I just moved recently to Amsterdam (an apartment block) and this afternoon when I was working with the Editor I was saying words my new neighbours perhaps wouldn't appreciate and possibly could hear ,when I realised that I made myself a cup of coffee and calmed down :) When the anger again came up I wrote this post :)

    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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    Fortunately, the walls here are 60cm thick and made of granite, so very little gets through them - and certainly no sound! :laugh:

    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Fortunately, the walls here are 60cm thick and made of granite, so very little gets through them - and certainly no sound! :laugh:

      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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      So, what you're saying is, in OG's house, no one can hear you bleat! :baaaa!: ;P


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      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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      • E Eric Goedhart

        Hi Mark, FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

        With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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        Marc Clifton
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        Eric Goedhart wrote:

        FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

        Quite so. It used to be the way people published static web pages. I still like it as an article editor because of it's split view (HTML / text) but there's more modern editors that do the same thing. Marc

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          I agree. I would rather use NotePad to edit the raw HTML. I'd be surprised if anyone used it for anything longer than a paragraph.

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Steve Wellens wrote:

          I'd be surprised if anyone used it for anything longer than a paragraph.

          All my articles have been written entirely* with Notepad. * Excepting that the code wasn't written in Notepad; however, I do the < and > replacements in Notepad.

          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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          • E Eric Goedhart

            Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

            With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            I quickly gave up on the editor and started writing in VS instead. Just remember to exchange all < and > inside pre tags to < and < before you paste it into the editor.

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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            • E Eric Goedhart

              Sry I have to say that but I wrote a nice article (I think) but gave up on publishing it since formatting it is a HELL in the online editor and I'm not brave enough to try the new one since it sucked all my energy out of me :(

              With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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              Marco Bertschi
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              Trust me, the new one is a lot better and don't messses up formattings.

              I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

              How to ask a question

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              • M Marco Bertschi

                Trust me, the new one is a lot better and don't messses up formattings.

                I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                How to ask a question

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                Eric Goedhart
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                Hi, I'm going to give that a try tomorrow then but I hope they fixed the upload also since the code (VS project) was to big for the old one.

                With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                • E Eric Goedhart

                  Hi, I'm going to give that a try tomorrow then but I hope they fixed the upload also since the code (VS project) was to big for the old one.

                  With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                  Marco Bertschi
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                  Drop me an email if you need help, I worked a fair bit with the new one already.

                  I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                  How to ask a question

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                  • M Marco Bertschi

                    Drop me an email if you need help, I worked a fair bit with the new one already.

                    I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                    How to ask a question

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                    Eric Goedhart
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                    Thank Marco I will if needed :thumbsup:

                    With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Eric Goedhart wrote:

                      FrontPage sounds familiar but no clue what it was except something from MS in the past I think

                      Quite so. It used to be the way people published static web pages. I still like it as an article editor because of it's split view (HTML / text) but there's more modern editors that do the same thing. Marc

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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      It used to be the way people who did not know how to write HTML published static web pages. It would turn even simple pages into monstrosities with multiple tables embedded within tables. embedded within tables, ...

                      FTFY X|

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      I still like it because I can watch the poor slob assigned to update the page struggle to do even simple things like add a control onto a page some graphic artist slapped together and passed off as a web page.

                      FTFY :mad: <rant> Sorry I just had to vent. I used to do some contract work for a web video company* and they hired this graphic artist to put a new face on their web site. Needless to say she couldn't do simple things like add a video to the page, something essential for a web video company to have, so I would have to wade through tons of really crap code to find where I could add the control. </rant> * - I used to package completed videos and video players for their clients so they could drop them on their web pages with a minimum of effort. Did I mention that I hate Frontpage. :~

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                      • E Eric Goedhart

                        Hi, I wrote my article offline but in Open Office and exported it as a .Pdf , but perhaps its an idea to just send it by email :)

                        With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                        You can download the skeleton article and build it offline using that, then submit as a Zip file. Takes a bit longer to get published but it tends to work.

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                        • M Marco Bertschi

                          Trust me, the new one is a lot better and don't messses up formattings.

                          I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.

                          How to ask a question

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                          BotCar
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                          That's good to know. I tried publishing a tip a while ago. I wrote the HTML offline and pasted it into the editor's HTML view. I noticed that if I switch to the WYSIWYG view, the code segments are all messed up. So I made sure to stick to the HTML view only, and used the preview functionality to ensure that it displayed correctly. Unfortunately, once the tip went through moderation, the formatting was messed up again.

                          What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Fortunately, the walls here are 60cm thick and made of granite, so very little gets through them - and certainly no sound! :laugh:

                            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            the walls here are 60cm thick

                            Hey, you never mentioned that you live in a castle (or does everybody in Wales do ?)

                            ~RaGE();

                            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                              OriginalGriff wrote:

                              the walls here are 60cm thick

                              Hey, you never mentioned that you live in a castle (or does everybody in Wales do ?)

                              ~RaGE();

                              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                              :laugh: It's not a castle, it's a cottage! But it's a couple hundred years old, and it's built of local materials: "riverstone", which is basically granite that has been dragged down from the mountains by the river and bashed so many times it's probably harder than diamond... Because it's hard, you don't cut or split it unless you really, really have to - so the walls have to be thick to support themselves. Worse, they use a lime mortar which you can't cover with a modern plaster because it needs to breathe. It means they are cool in summer, and once heated - which takes a lot - warm in winter. And they will probably still be here in another couple of hundred years, which modern building methods don't encourage... The downsides are the line mortar, complete absence of right angles or straight lines, and that just putting up a shelf needs industrial strength drilling equipment and a lot of luck! :laugh: When the neighbours had an extension, the builder wore out two water-cooled diamond cutting discs before giving up on cutting a door hole and demolished a chunk of wall instead...

                              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                :laugh: It's not a castle, it's a cottage! But it's a couple hundred years old, and it's built of local materials: "riverstone", which is basically granite that has been dragged down from the mountains by the river and bashed so many times it's probably harder than diamond... Because it's hard, you don't cut or split it unless you really, really have to - so the walls have to be thick to support themselves. Worse, they use a lime mortar which you can't cover with a modern plaster because it needs to breathe. It means they are cool in summer, and once heated - which takes a lot - warm in winter. And they will probably still be here in another couple of hundred years, which modern building methods don't encourage... The downsides are the line mortar, complete absence of right angles or straight lines, and that just putting up a shelf needs industrial strength drilling equipment and a lot of luck! :laugh: When the neighbours had an extension, the builder wore out two water-cooled diamond cutting discs before giving up on cutting a door hole and demolished a chunk of wall instead...

                                Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                Rage
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                                This is great ! Totally sounds like somewhere I would love to live ! :cool:

                                ~RaGE();

                                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                  This is great ! Totally sounds like somewhere I would love to live ! :cool:

                                  ~RaGE();

                                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                  You either love 'em or you hate 'em. If you love 'em, you get used to the drawbacks - Cat 5 cabling was a nightmare - and just enjoy the solid, comfortable "feel" of the place. If you enjoy living in a square box that is identical to all your neighbours then you'd hate it! :laugh:

                                  Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                  • M Marc Clifton

                                    Eric Goedhart wrote:

                                    in the online editor

                                    I know I'm archaic, but I write all my articles in FrontPage and just paste the HTML into the online editor. At most, I use it to add "code" tags. Marc

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                                    BobJanova
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                                    I don't like the online editor either (though to be fair I haven't written an article for long enough it is probably better now), so I write the article as plain HTML in a text editor (Notepad++, these days) and then paste it in.

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                                    • R Rage

                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      the walls here are 60cm thick

                                      Hey, you never mentioned that you live in a castle (or does everybody in Wales do ?)

                                      ~RaGE();

                                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                                      BobJanova
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                                      Any old house will have walls of that thickness. Either they'll be cavity walls, in which case they will be about 3' thick (two parts of the wall of about 1' and a 1' rubble fill cavity down the middle), or they'll be built to that thickness to provide some insulation. My current (recently purchased but the word 'new' would be confusing in this context) house has only about 1' or 18" for some of its walls and as a result it doesn't have great insulation.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        You can download the skeleton article and build it offline using that, then submit as a Zip file. Takes a bit longer to get published but it tends to work.

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                                        Eric Goedhart
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                                        Hi Richard, I downloaded the CodeProjectArticleEditor.exe from Huseyin Atasoy , it looks promising :) Thanks for the advise :thumbsup:

                                        With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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                                        • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                          In my experience the new editor is already better. Anyway you can ask for help: http://www.codeproject.com/Forums/1641/Article-Writing.aspx[^]

                                          I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                                          Eric Goedhart
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                                          Hi Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter, I have use the new editor to publish my new article and you were 100% right that it is better. :)

                                          With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart

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