HOLY CRAP!
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013And cheap at half the price! Well, no - it'd be cheap at 1/20th the price...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Visual Studio 2012 Professional: $499 Visual Studio 2012 Professional with MSDN: $799 Visual Studio 2012 Premium with MSDN: $2,569 Visual Studio 2012 Ultimate with MSDN: $4,249
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I'm just curious: Why do you need to pay that by yourself? Around here it is common that the Employer does offer the Computer & Software needed to get the job done.
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013That's not a fair comparison though. You get so much more for your MSDN money now. I believe it's called bankruptcy.
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Visual Studio 2012 Professional: $499 Visual Studio 2012 Professional with MSDN: $799 Visual Studio 2012 Premium with MSDN: $2,569 Visual Studio 2012 Ultimate with MSDN: $4,249
You see that, in the distance? The small, bright, thing? That's the point, and you've missed it. Not so very long ago you could pay MS $700 for an MSDN subscription and get actual physical disks with pretty much all the software MS produced. Now you have to pay $13.3K for less (for example on the old full subscription you'd get all the current Windows flavours, not just server).
PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]
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That's not a fair comparison though. You get so much more for your MSDN money now. I believe it's called bankruptcy.
:laugh:
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013You may not need Ultimate. A lot of people get that but don't really use Ultimate specific features.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview
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I'm just curious: Why do you need to pay that by yourself? Around here it is common that the Employer does offer the Computer & Software needed to get the job done.
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
I didn't say I had to pay that - I said I was gathering a list of dev tools I needed for the job. That list will be given to the company to buy.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
You may not need Ultimate. A lot of people get that but don't really use Ultimate specific features.
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview
THAT.IS.NOT.THE.POINT. The point is that you pay almost 20 times as much for less tangible product (and with no improvement in support, but that's a topic for another thread).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Hi, Did they hire someone from Apple to do the pricing :-D
With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart
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THAT.IS.NOT.THE.POINT. The point is that you pay almost 20 times as much for less tangible product (and with no improvement in support, but that's a topic for another thread).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Well, for a corporate company, 13,000 an year for Visual Studio, SQL Server, Windows OSes (including server editions), Office, BizTalk, SharePoint etc. is not that bad a deal in my opinion. It's probably less than 15% of an average software developer's salary. It is expensive if you are a small startup, but they've got special pricing for startups (forgot the name of the program you needed to sign up to). Not trying to counter your point here, but just looking at it from a different perspective. :-)
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview
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Hi, Did they hire someone from Apple to do the pricing :-D
With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart
Eric Goedhart wrote:
Did they hire someone from Apple to do the pricing
Too bad they didn't... XCode is free! :doh:
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Well, for a corporate company, 13,000 an year for Visual Studio, SQL Server, Windows OSes (including server editions), Office, BizTalk, SharePoint etc. is not that bad a deal in my opinion. It's probably less than 15% of an average software developer's salary. It is expensive if you are a small startup, but they've got special pricing for startups (forgot the name of the program you needed to sign up to). Not trying to counter your point here, but just looking at it from a different perspective. :-)
Regards, Nish
Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Latest article: C++ 11 features in Visual C++ 2013 Preview
Nish Sivakumar wrote:
It's probably less than 15% of an average software developer's salary.
Gizza Job.
PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013The price of indentured servitude with no fixed date for manumission is ... inflationary. "You load sixteen tons, what do you get Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store" "Sixteen Tons" by Merle Travis (1946); became number-one hit in the US with Tennessee Ernie Ford's 1955 recording.
“I speak in a poem of the ancient food of heroes: humiliation, unhappiness, discord. Those things are given to us to transform, so that we may make from the miserable circumstances of our lives things that are eternal, or aspire to be so.” Jorge Luis Borges
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I have something to say but it would get marked as abuse in a nano-second. Perhaps a simple "Oy vey!" would suffice. That is pretty crazy - I realize it costs them money to develop, market, etc., but that is nuts.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013John, You were already a costly resource when we hired you. And now, you are proving to be even costlier than we had anticipated. Why you no Linux ? Holy Crap !!! - Your New Company
Remind Me This - Manage, Collaborate and Execute your Project in the Cloud
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Visual Studio 2012 Professional: $499 Visual Studio 2012 Professional with MSDN: $799 Visual Studio 2012 Premium with MSDN: $2,569 Visual Studio 2012 Ultimate with MSDN: $4,249
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP! I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
