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  • J James Jensen

    I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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    BBC Basic...then ARM assembler.

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    • J James Jensen

      I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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      I never felt in love with languages (I did with Assembly, BASIC and Pascal at the beginning, and COBOL, C/C++, VB, C#, JavaScript and PHP later) but with graphics development! I just in love with making of different purpose graphics library since 6502...

      I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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      • J James Jensen

        I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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        I learned Pacsal in college but never used it in real life, went straight from college to using assembler on my first real job then taught myself C. Ah those were the days.

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        • J James Jensen

          I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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          Probably Delphi. I had started in basic coding a while before, with APL and C (from K&R, of course), and a little while before getting into Delphi my dad had got us a Win 95 machine on which I could experiment with Java. I did enjoy that, but didn't love it. Then we got Delphi (5) and the way the framework and language work together to make the things you want to do easy, but the things you only occasionally want to do still possible, was brilliant. Unlike Java and C# it is still a traditional compile-to-opcodes language so it has the speed and native interface advantages of C++ and the ability to go pointer chasing when you need to, allowing low level access to libraries like OpenGL or DirectX, but the design of the language and the framework means that you can usually write code as if you were fully managed. Many of the best features of C# and .Net (properties, the Framework classes, the forms designer and separation of UI definition from code, data binding, System.Data ...) are inspired by or copied from Delphi, as MS poached a few people from the Borland team when they were developing .Net 1.0.

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          • J James Jensen

            I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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            FORTRAN, now this is after I took my first BASIC class, after which I swore off programming forever, still the worst programming experience in my life. Being good at math at the time, I had a teacher suggest I try FORTRAN, I did and the skies opened to this lovely thing called structure, I was hooked! I give BASIC a bad rap, but in hindsight it was the teacher and his "just use another GOTO" attitude, that had me pulling my hair out.

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            • J James Jensen

              I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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              Visual Basics, I made a Whack A' Mole game using an image of a friend's head as the "Mole". BitBit!

              Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                Probably Delphi. I had started in basic coding a while before, with APL and C (from K&R, of course), and a little while before getting into Delphi my dad had got us a Win 95 machine on which I could experiment with Java. I did enjoy that, but didn't love it. Then we got Delphi (5) and the way the framework and language work together to make the things you want to do easy, but the things you only occasionally want to do still possible, was brilliant. Unlike Java and C# it is still a traditional compile-to-opcodes language so it has the speed and native interface advantages of C++ and the ability to go pointer chasing when you need to, allowing low level access to libraries like OpenGL or DirectX, but the design of the language and the framework means that you can usually write code as if you were fully managed. Many of the best features of C# and .Net (properties, the Framework classes, the forms designer and separation of UI definition from code, data binding, System.Data ...) are inspired by or copied from Delphi, as MS poached a few people from the Borland team when they were developing .Net 1.0.

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                BobJanova wrote:

                traditional compile-to-opcodes language so it has the speed and native interface advantages of C++

                http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2014/04/02/announcing-net-native-preview.aspx[^] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/vstudio/dn642499.aspx[^]

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                • J James Jensen

                  I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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                  Good to know about your true love. Although I started with Pascal programming as a academic course, Unfortunately I was not in love. There was one good reason, the person who taught me was unable to convey the best. Later on, I was truly in love with C Programming, Data Structures, Assembly programming etc. The moment when I graduated, things started changing when I started working with C# .NET, J2EE, J2ME. Then I decided to stick with one technology. Slowly I came to know that the technology is a key in implementing but there is a much bigger animal called domain, which we all have to be aware of and that's how I started with domain driven design. You will have to wait for another 3 days to see my article getting published on the technology that I'm talking about :laugh: Thanks,

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                  • S Simon Lee Shugar

                    Visual Basics, I made a Whack A' Mole game using an image of a friend's head as the "Mole". BitBit!

                    Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                    Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                    Visual Basics

                    :confused:

                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                    • J James Jensen

                      I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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                      I first learned COBOL at Uni, then they taught us FORTRAN. Off my own bat, I then learnt Pascal and loved it. The following year, they taught us ALGOL which was kinda like an attention deficit version of Pascal in comparison. Loved Pascal, but only used it for personal stuff until I met C at which point I dropped Pascal like a stone and have never been back!

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                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                        Simon Lee Shugar wrote:

                        Visual Basics

                        :confused:

                        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                        Always called it plural, no clue. I know my basics? I am a bit basic? It is basically all the same in the long run. You just need a visual on your own future.

                        Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil

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                          BobJanova wrote:

                          traditional compile-to-opcodes language so it has the speed and native interface advantages of C++

                          http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2014/04/02/announcing-net-native-preview.aspx[^] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/vstudio/dn642499.aspx[^]

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                          Interesting, but that looks like 'NGen++' and not an ability for the developer to write low level code when he decides he needs to.

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                            That was really that long? Wow. My brain is going fuzzy. I wonder if you can still get those old versions. Borland used to have them available. well that was easy[^]

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                            :laugh:

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                              I never felt in love with languages (I did with Assembly, BASIC and Pascal at the beginning, and COBOL, C/C++, VB, C#, JavaScript and PHP later) but with graphics development! I just in love with making of different purpose graphics library since 6502...

                              I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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                              Yeah. My first love was Pascal on the Apple IIe, but my first *mistress* was 6502 assembler. Never coded assembler for money. It's always been for fun. :)

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                                Good to know about your true love. Although I started with Pascal programming as a academic course, Unfortunately I was not in love. There was one good reason, the person who taught me was unable to convey the best. Later on, I was truly in love with C Programming, Data Structures, Assembly programming etc. The moment when I graduated, things started changing when I started working with C# .NET, J2EE, J2ME. Then I decided to stick with one technology. Slowly I came to know that the technology is a key in implementing but there is a much bigger animal called domain, which we all have to be aware of and that's how I started with domain driven design. You will have to wait for another 3 days to see my article getting published on the technology that I'm talking about :laugh: Thanks,

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                                James Jensen
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                                Cool, man. Email or IM me when it gets published. Regarding the 1st love thing... I think the first love in programming has to do with where you came from. My head was full of BASIC when Pascal came along, so it was the first language that did NOT require line numbers, used Types, and had easy access to pointer arithmetic (vs PEEK and POKE...arrrrgh). Because of these advancements (at the time...) I was enchanted. Yeah, so then I later found out about C and a host of other languages, and some of those became favorites for a while, but Pascal has stayed around the longest. :)

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                                  That was really that long? Wow. My brain is going fuzzy. I wonder if you can still get those old versions. Borland used to have them available. well that was easy[^]

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                                  mikepwilson wrote:

                                  Borland used to have them available.

                                  Yep. I threw out all my Turbo and Borland Pascal, C, and C++ discs and books except for Turbo BASIC (V1.0) :cool: , but I have the Turbo Pascal 5.5 from that site and ye olde Borland C/C++ 5.5 ("Free Command Line Tools"). Back in college, I was the first to jump on Turbo C++ V1.0 :cool: .

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                                  • J James Jensen

                                    I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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                                    Madhanlal JM
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                                    My First true sweet love is BASIC. When I saw my Name in the screen by the following code 'PRINT "Madhanlal" I felt really really happy. :-D

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                                      Interesting, but that looks like 'NGen++' and not an ability for the developer to write low level code when he decides he needs to.

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                                      I'm more curious about the difference of ease for reverse-engineering (between NGen and .NET Native). I want my dang code hidden where no eye can see and no ear has heard... wait, that's a Bible quote.

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        BasicPlus on a PDP-11 in high school, then Pascal, but once I learned C, that was it. Now I do mostly C# (and SQL) and use C just for fun. I've been having such fun the last few days -- I dug out my old ODBC 3.5 (1999) book and have been playing with it. I suppose I could grab some of my old (Turbo) Pascal code out and try it on one of my AlphaServers if I really wanted to.

                                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                        I'm with you on C - I'm still in love! Recently bought K&R's "The C Programming Language" (2nd ed) just to own it :) I had a crush on Delphi for a while and still have a boxed Dephi 7 Enterprise IDE somewhere; I want to dust it off and see if I still have the feels for it. I currently have a good relationship with Objective-C, but I've been forced into speed dating C# and it's not going well... :sigh:

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                                        • J James Jensen

                                          Yeah. My first love was Pascal on the Apple IIe, but my first *mistress* was 6502 assembler. Never coded assembler for money. It's always been for fun. :)

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                                          Yes, 6502 on the Apple and Merlin... I loved that. Mike

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