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  • L LloydA111

    BobJanova wrote:

    traditional compile-to-opcodes language so it has the speed and native interface advantages of C++

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2014/04/02/announcing-net-native-preview.aspx[^] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/vstudio/dn642499.aspx[^]

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    Interesting, but that looks like 'NGen++' and not an ability for the developer to write low level code when he decides he needs to.

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      That was really that long? Wow. My brain is going fuzzy. I wonder if you can still get those old versions. Borland used to have them available. well that was easy[^]

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      :laugh:

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        I never felt in love with languages (I did with Assembly, BASIC and Pascal at the beginning, and COBOL, C/C++, VB, C#, JavaScript and PHP later) but with graphics development! I just in love with making of different purpose graphics library since 6502...

        I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)

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        James Jensen
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        Yeah. My first love was Pascal on the Apple IIe, but my first *mistress* was 6502 assembler. Never coded assembler for money. It's always been for fun. :)

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        • R Ranjan D

          Good to know about your true love. Although I started with Pascal programming as a academic course, Unfortunately I was not in love. There was one good reason, the person who taught me was unable to convey the best. Later on, I was truly in love with C Programming, Data Structures, Assembly programming etc. The moment when I graduated, things started changing when I started working with C# .NET, J2EE, J2ME. Then I decided to stick with one technology. Slowly I came to know that the technology is a key in implementing but there is a much bigger animal called domain, which we all have to be aware of and that's how I started with domain driven design. You will have to wait for another 3 days to see my article getting published on the technology that I'm talking about :laugh: Thanks,

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          Cool, man. Email or IM me when it gets published. Regarding the 1st love thing... I think the first love in programming has to do with where you came from. My head was full of BASIC when Pascal came along, so it was the first language that did NOT require line numbers, used Types, and had easy access to pointer arithmetic (vs PEEK and POKE...arrrrgh). Because of these advancements (at the time...) I was enchanted. Yeah, so then I later found out about C and a host of other languages, and some of those became favorites for a while, but Pascal has stayed around the longest. :)

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            That was really that long? Wow. My brain is going fuzzy. I wonder if you can still get those old versions. Borland used to have them available. well that was easy[^]

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            mikepwilson wrote:

            Borland used to have them available.

            Yep. I threw out all my Turbo and Borland Pascal, C, and C++ discs and books except for Turbo BASIC (V1.0) :cool: , but I have the Turbo Pascal 5.5 from that site and ye olde Borland C/C++ 5.5 ("Free Command Line Tools"). Back in college, I was the first to jump on Turbo C++ V1.0 :cool: .

            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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            • J James Jensen

              I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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              Madhanlal JM
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              My First true sweet love is BASIC. When I saw my Name in the screen by the following code 'PRINT "Madhanlal" I felt really really happy. :-D

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              • B BobJanova

                Interesting, but that looks like 'NGen++' and not an ability for the developer to write low level code when he decides he needs to.

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                SortaCore
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                I'm more curious about the difference of ease for reverse-engineering (between NGen and .NET Native). I want my dang code hidden where no eye can see and no ear has heard... wait, that's a Bible quote.

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  BasicPlus on a PDP-11 in high school, then Pascal, but once I learned C, that was it. Now I do mostly C# (and SQL) and use C just for fun. I've been having such fun the last few days -- I dug out my old ODBC 3.5 (1999) book and have been playing with it. I suppose I could grab some of my old (Turbo) Pascal code out and try it on one of my AlphaServers if I really wanted to.

                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                  Ri_
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                  I'm with you on C - I'm still in love! Recently bought K&R's "The C Programming Language" (2nd ed) just to own it :) I had a crush on Delphi for a while and still have a boxed Dephi 7 Enterprise IDE somewhere; I want to dust it off and see if I still have the feels for it. I currently have a good relationship with Objective-C, but I've been forced into speed dating C# and it's not going well... :sigh:

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                  • J James Jensen

                    Yeah. My first love was Pascal on the Apple IIe, but my first *mistress* was 6502 assembler. Never coded assembler for money. It's always been for fun. :)

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                    Yes, 6502 on the Apple and Merlin... I loved that. Mike

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      James Jensen wrote:

                      What a babe.

                      Ha. My first real love was QBasic. I met some guy that wrote a cheesy game called "Invasion of the Pac-Man Planet" that was a Gradius knock-off. BAM, I was learning from then on. Although my relationship with programming is more dysfunctional. It's a love hate thing where we fight and bicker but sometimes get along, but damn the um, late night coding, is great.

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      The ones that scratch are the most fun, eh? :laugh: (Welcome back to the world, btw!)

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • J James Jensen

                        I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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                        My first true love was a girl. :doh:

                        The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                        • J JimmyRopes

                          My first true love was a girl. :doh:

                          The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Oh, yeah, how is your mom? :badger:

                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            Oh, yeah, how is your mom? :badger:

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                            JimmyRopes
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                            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                            Oh, yeah, how is your mom?

                            Actually it was your Mum! She liked all the boys. :wtf:

                            The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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                            • G Gary Wheeler

                              The ones that scratch are the most fun, eh? :laugh: (Welcome back to the world, btw!)

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              Definitely.

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                              • J James Jensen

                                I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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                                Ayomi Weerarathne
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                                My first impression was for my lover " c ", After that i got to know abt some outdated romeos like vb.net. And sql. Bt html was hot guy bt i got to know him bearly thats sad.

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  mikepwilson wrote:

                                  Borland used to have them available.

                                  Yep. I threw out all my Turbo and Borland Pascal, C, and C++ discs and books except for Turbo BASIC (V1.0) :cool: , but I have the Turbo Pascal 5.5 from that site and ye olde Borland C/C++ 5.5 ("Free Command Line Tools"). Back in college, I was the first to jump on Turbo C++ V1.0 :cool: .

                                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                  mikepwilson
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                                  Yep. Borland got me to C++ with TC++ 1.0. It's been my favorite language since, though I'm mostly a perl/sql guy in practice nowadays. I wonder what it takes to actually install (assuming it can be) the Turbo Pascal 5.5 I downloaded yesterday on a modern machine.

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                                  • J James Jensen

                                    I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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                                    Lilith C
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                                    I piddled around with BASIC on a CPM machine after doing 8080/Z80 assembly, which I found more challenging. But at some point I started using Mix Software's C compiler and I've used little else but C derivations since. I never liked having to reference files by a number.

                                    I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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                                    • J James Jensen

                                      I was reading and answering comments from a fellow author when he told me that he had fallen in love with technology. And, by "technology", I assumed he really meant "programming", as that is his forte. So that got me thinking about my "first love" in relation to programming. I was a BASIC programmer, and had some significant experience with Z-80 assembly programming, when that sultry vixen, Pascal, blew me a kiss. Holy moley! I was smitten, but good. Everything (and I really mean *everything*) took a back seat to Pascal for a while after that. Now, 20+ years later, I survive in this world by coding tsql or C# bits to keep my employer afloat. Pascal and I have maintained a furtive relationship over the years. I have all the Borland releases on floppy, one Inprise version of Pascal, and now Embarcadero's XE4. Only the Embarcadero version is in use. Yes, I use Pascal for my fun-time programming adventures...still! What a babe. :)

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                                      Lost User
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                                      I started programming BASIC on a VIC20, then C64, but really loved HiSoft BASIC on the Amiga. C# comes a close second :)

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                                        I piddled around with BASIC on a CPM machine after doing 8080/Z80 assembly, which I found more challenging. But at some point I started using Mix Software's C compiler and I've used little else but C derivations since. I never liked having to reference files by a number.

                                        I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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                                        That is why they have variables! I cannot remember the exact syntax (thank goodness) 200 LET INFILE = 1 210 OPEN xxx, INFILE, yyy Some basic dialects I used had some sort of next number function so you could 200 LET INFILE = NextFileNum() etc.

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                                          I started programming BASIC on a VIC20, then C64, but really loved HiSoft BASIC on the Amiga. C# comes a close second :)

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                                          I learned some hard lessons on C64 with my siblings. Example: Spend an hour or two typing in a game program (Castle Dungeon) from a magazine article. Run it. Computer locks up and you cannot even break the program. Huh? Power off. Spend an hour or two typing it the second time. Run it. Computer locks up and you cannot even break the program. Huh? Power off. Spend an hour or two typing it the third time. SAVE THE PROGRAM FIRST Run it. Computer locks up and you cannot even break the program. Aha! We were expecting that to happen. Power off. Load the program, start trouble shooting. We were already pair programming back then! My sister who was probably eight at the time was reading the text out to me because I could type faster. I was probably twelve. For the trouble shooting, I read the magazine to her while she read the program on screen. The magazine font was awful. It turned out to be some confusion between a number 1 and a capital I that totally cratered the BASIC interpreter on a FOR loop. Once we fixed the issue, it turned out to be a pretty cool game. Tons better than Flappy Bird IMHO. Lessons Learned: Save early, save often. Double check all manual entry. Switch tasks to keep sharp. Find all of the explosives before time runs out or the castle (with you inside it) is a goner. (cue the explosion sound effect) Lions will eat you if you bump into them. (cue the roar sound effect)

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