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  • D dan sh

    Now, before start off, here are few things to make note of: 1. You cannot call it bad just because of content. If that was the case, you should dislike CP as well considering amounts of rants about Q & A here. 2. If you have had a bad experience with random friend request, it is not FB's fault. 3. If you are annoyed with game requests, you should consider choosing FB friends carefully rather than blaming FB. 4. If you think content there is just idiotic, remember it is not just for people like you. Kids to old people use it. There will be everything there. Again you need to choose what you want to see. 5. If you do not like their UI, for few things I am with you.

    My CP workspace: Incredibly trivial and probably useless code samples[^]

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    Lost User
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    Try to unsubscribe from Facebook. At one point it was impossible.

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    • L Lost User

      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

      So are most "real life" ones. :)

      Only yours Jeremy, only yours. You need to cut back on the oil mate.

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      Michael Martin wrote:

      Only yours Jeremy, only yours. You need to cut back on the oil mate.

      Ironically, I have deeper connections with women that most people ever will, simply because I'm open and honest with them. Most guys aren't. When it comes to guys, they're all fake with me. Go figure.

      Jeremy Falcon

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      • L Lost User

        Are you still using horses as an argument against gay marriage?

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        If I had any idea what you're talking about I could answer this.

        Jeremy Falcon

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        • D dan sh

          Now, before start off, here are few things to make note of: 1. You cannot call it bad just because of content. If that was the case, you should dislike CP as well considering amounts of rants about Q & A here. 2. If you have had a bad experience with random friend request, it is not FB's fault. 3. If you are annoyed with game requests, you should consider choosing FB friends carefully rather than blaming FB. 4. If you think content there is just idiotic, remember it is not just for people like you. Kids to old people use it. There will be everything there. Again you need to choose what you want to see. 5. If you do not like their UI, for few things I am with you.

          My CP workspace: Incredibly trivial and probably useless code samples[^]

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          Kirk 10389821
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          Not sure I can be trusted to say. I have never had a FB account. I hope to never have a FB account. Because of this, I don't even know what it offers, other than a WhiteBoard for me to indicate some status and crap for others to look at...(I don't take many pictures, and I certainly do not want to share them anonymously)... And don't get me started on SCHOOLS making ASSIGNMENTS for the kids that have to create Twitter/Tumblr accounts. Really? Failing so bad at teaching the MATH, that you can CLAIM you taught them to be social? (Something I do believe they figure out on their own). I guess I do not understand how it would save me time/energy, so I don't use it. What I don't like about it, is that everyone seems to think you should be there, and if you are not, it is because you don't know about computers. ROTFLMAO: I am not there because I spend TOO MUCH TIME on computers...

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            Things never improve or grow without change.

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            Peltier Cooler
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            Nor get worse.

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            • F Fabio Franco

              I like it :) Makes it easier to keep in touch with friends that no longer live nearby, plus it helps "remembering" everyone's birthday :laugh:

              To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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              So it trivialises relationships of all kinds and dehumanises the little that's left. And that's a good thing? The easier it becomes the less point there is to having it in the first place. If it does not involve a little sacrifice and a lot of commitment, what's it worth? Very little, as with everything else in this throwaway, fad driven society that Facebook has done so much to encourage. If the Devil exists, then you can be sure that he is still rubbing his hands in glee at Facebook's creation. It mirrors exactly the insidious, insinuating nature of his best and most successful temptations!

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              • 9 9082365

                So it trivialises relationships of all kinds and dehumanises the little that's left. And that's a good thing? The easier it becomes the less point there is to having it in the first place. If it does not involve a little sacrifice and a lot of commitment, what's it worth? Very little, as with everything else in this throwaway, fad driven society that Facebook has done so much to encourage. If the Devil exists, then you can be sure that he is still rubbing his hands in glee at Facebook's creation. It mirrors exactly the insidious, insinuating nature of his best and most successful temptations!

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                Fabio Franco
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                It's not Facebook's fault if in your culture people have been pushing eachother apart and isolating themselves in favor of social networks. Fortunatelly for me, in Brazil relationships are still face to face bases. We are a warm population. Facebook is only an add-on. It helps sharing our moments and connecting with those that are far away. Facebook only gets in the way thwle ammount you allow it. Facebook is only evil if you let it steer your life. Which is not the case of most Brazilians I know. It's all about the culture, not facebook.

                To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                • R rnbergren

                  for software I pay for I agree with you. This is software that is paid for by the advertisers. I think we forget that the users are NOT the customers for Facebook. They are pandering to exactly who they should be pandering too. I don't like FB that much either. But I am on it. Mainly because my kids are on it and I need to keep a close eye on them.

                  To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                  bantling
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                  I'm not a hater of anything, but I generally dislike online services, be it FB or anything else, because: a) They appear and disappear at random. You never know when something you like is suddenly gone. b) When they disappear, you typically get a very short window to grab your data, if you want it and it's your only copy. c) Privacy policies change at will. d) UIs change at will. It is easy to say that if you're not paying, then you're not the target, just the product. But this implies that if you were paying, then your voice should be important. That leads to two questions: 1) Are paid services really any better, or do they just do the same stuff anyway? 2) If there is no option to pay, then how do you get a service that is what you want, where you are the target and not the product? I don't want to be a product, I want a service that is useful to me. I don't find it useful to me for random changes in UI or anything else. I don't need and don't want services I can't rely on. As a result, I use very few online services. Most of the stuff that crops up, I just don't care, any more than I care about the lastest javascript framework of the hour. For some services, like email, I want services that are like a wrench - it was a 15mm silver wrench 5 years ago, and it's a 15mm silver wrench today. Same colour, sits in the same box, does the same thing. Why on earth do I need new shiny features in my email? It's such a basic thing, it should rarely change. Sometimes things are done just right. A great example of doing it right is online banking. You pay for your online banking thru fees, you are the target, your feedback actually goes into the next version. They do a big change maybe once every 3-5 years, and otherwise stay the same, it's more like a desktop boxed product. And that upgrade is actually better by any reasonable definition, not just shiny and cool and glittery. This is exactly what I want - I'm just paying bills and tracking my expenses, the same stuff I was doing 5 years go with online banking. And I don't get damned ads pestering me every frigging visit. For free services, I like CP for the same reasons. I just use it to follow articles on the news section about quasi-programming related stuff. Works pretty much the same as it did when I started, get a list of articles, pick a few, read them. Why is it so hard to find more services like this? Why do they all have to obsess over glittery coolness and one-upping each other like schoolyard children? I don't give a s**t about the la

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                    I'm not a hater of anything, but I generally dislike online services, be it FB or anything else, because: a) They appear and disappear at random. You never know when something you like is suddenly gone. b) When they disappear, you typically get a very short window to grab your data, if you want it and it's your only copy. c) Privacy policies change at will. d) UIs change at will. It is easy to say that if you're not paying, then you're not the target, just the product. But this implies that if you were paying, then your voice should be important. That leads to two questions: 1) Are paid services really any better, or do they just do the same stuff anyway? 2) If there is no option to pay, then how do you get a service that is what you want, where you are the target and not the product? I don't want to be a product, I want a service that is useful to me. I don't find it useful to me for random changes in UI or anything else. I don't need and don't want services I can't rely on. As a result, I use very few online services. Most of the stuff that crops up, I just don't care, any more than I care about the lastest javascript framework of the hour. For some services, like email, I want services that are like a wrench - it was a 15mm silver wrench 5 years ago, and it's a 15mm silver wrench today. Same colour, sits in the same box, does the same thing. Why on earth do I need new shiny features in my email? It's such a basic thing, it should rarely change. Sometimes things are done just right. A great example of doing it right is online banking. You pay for your online banking thru fees, you are the target, your feedback actually goes into the next version. They do a big change maybe once every 3-5 years, and otherwise stay the same, it's more like a desktop boxed product. And that upgrade is actually better by any reasonable definition, not just shiny and cool and glittery. This is exactly what I want - I'm just paying bills and tracking my expenses, the same stuff I was doing 5 years go with online banking. And I don't get damned ads pestering me every frigging visit. For free services, I like CP for the same reasons. I just use it to follow articles on the news section about quasi-programming related stuff. Works pretty much the same as it did when I started, get a list of articles, pick a few, read them. Why is it so hard to find more services like this? Why do they all have to obsess over glittery coolness and one-upping each other like schoolyard children? I don't give a s**t about the la

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                    GordoFabulous
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                    Hear, hear!

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                    • D dan sh

                      Now, before start off, here are few things to make note of: 1. You cannot call it bad just because of content. If that was the case, you should dislike CP as well considering amounts of rants about Q & A here. 2. If you have had a bad experience with random friend request, it is not FB's fault. 3. If you are annoyed with game requests, you should consider choosing FB friends carefully rather than blaming FB. 4. If you think content there is just idiotic, remember it is not just for people like you. Kids to old people use it. There will be everything there. Again you need to choose what you want to see. 5. If you do not like their UI, for few things I am with you.

                      My CP workspace: Incredibly trivial and probably useless code samples[^]

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                      Nothing against facebook or twitter or linkedin any other social networking website. It is just not the way I communicate. I'll visit, write a letter (do people still do such things?), phone or send an email. That way, there is more to talk about. If your whole life has been published and everyone already knows everything and has seen all the pictures, what do you talk about when you meet up with friends?

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                      • D dan sh

                        Now, before start off, here are few things to make note of: 1. You cannot call it bad just because of content. If that was the case, you should dislike CP as well considering amounts of rants about Q & A here. 2. If you have had a bad experience with random friend request, it is not FB's fault. 3. If you are annoyed with game requests, you should consider choosing FB friends carefully rather than blaming FB. 4. If you think content there is just idiotic, remember it is not just for people like you. Kids to old people use it. There will be everything there. Again you need to choose what you want to see. 5. If you do not like their UI, for few things I am with you.

                        My CP workspace: Incredibly trivial and probably useless code samples[^]

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                        jtmueller
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                        "1. You cannot call it bad just because of content." You don't get to dictate my reasons for liking or not liking a thing. If I want to dislike it because of content, that's my privilege. Maybe I think FB's bad content is more annoying than CP's bad content. Maybe I'm tired of clueless political rants interspersed with photos of someone's dinner. Maybe I just like my privacy. Either way, that's my decision. Why are you so eager to de-legitimize and downplay other people's reasons for disliking Facebook? It sounds like you asked this question to start an argument, not because you actually wanted to learn something.

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                        • Z ZurdoDev

                          0. It's fake relationships.

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          RASPeter
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                          95% of my FB friends are people I know in real life. The rest are friends of friends who share common interests with me, and the only reason I haven't met them yet is geographical inconvenience. If you have a problem with fake relationships on FB, the problem is with you, not with FB.

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                            95% of my FB friends are people I know in real life. The rest are friends of friends who share common interests with me, and the only reason I haven't met them yet is geographical inconvenience. If you have a problem with fake relationships on FB, the problem is with you, not with FB.

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            RASPeter wrote:

                            If you have a problem with fake relationships on FB, the problem is with you, not with FB.

                            :laugh: OK.

                            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                            • D dan sh

                              Now, before start off, here are few things to make note of: 1. You cannot call it bad just because of content. If that was the case, you should dislike CP as well considering amounts of rants about Q & A here. 2. If you have had a bad experience with random friend request, it is not FB's fault. 3. If you are annoyed with game requests, you should consider choosing FB friends carefully rather than blaming FB. 4. If you think content there is just idiotic, remember it is not just for people like you. Kids to old people use it. There will be everything there. Again you need to choose what you want to see. 5. If you do not like their UI, for few things I am with you.

                              My CP workspace: Incredibly trivial and probably useless code samples[^]

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                              RASPeter
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                              I hate the way the feed is managed, especially in their mobile app. I see something funny, walk across the room to show it to my daughter, and suddenly it's jumped position and when I scroll down to where the thing was that I wanted to show her it's no longer there, and even if I got to the wall of the person who posted it it's pretty much a coin flip whether I can find it there. In fact, just the other day I was looking for something I'd posted myself a few months ago. Turns out the two weeks around the date I posted it are just gone, but I spent quite a few minutes scrolling through everything I'd ever clicked "like" on to figure that out. It's like they created an algorithm specifically to preserve the history I care least about. And then there's the "10+ New Stories" thing, which aren't actually new stories, but rather there's maybe one new story and the rest are things that I've already seen and didn't like, but someone I know liked it so obviously I need to see it again so I can have another chance to like it.

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                              • D dan sh

                                Now, before start off, here are few things to make note of: 1. You cannot call it bad just because of content. If that was the case, you should dislike CP as well considering amounts of rants about Q & A here. 2. If you have had a bad experience with random friend request, it is not FB's fault. 3. If you are annoyed with game requests, you should consider choosing FB friends carefully rather than blaming FB. 4. If you think content there is just idiotic, remember it is not just for people like you. Kids to old people use it. There will be everything there. Again you need to choose what you want to see. 5. If you do not like their UI, for few things I am with you.

                                My CP workspace: Incredibly trivial and probably useless code samples[^]

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                                RafagaX
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                                I don't dislike it, I just find it pointless for anything that is not cheap gossip or sell you something.

                                CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                                • D dan sh

                                  Now, before start off, here are few things to make note of: 1. You cannot call it bad just because of content. If that was the case, you should dislike CP as well considering amounts of rants about Q & A here. 2. If you have had a bad experience with random friend request, it is not FB's fault. 3. If you are annoyed with game requests, you should consider choosing FB friends carefully rather than blaming FB. 4. If you think content there is just idiotic, remember it is not just for people like you. Kids to old people use it. There will be everything there. Again you need to choose what you want to see. 5. If you do not like their UI, for few things I am with you.

                                  My CP workspace: Incredibly trivial and probably useless code samples[^]

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                                  BGArts
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                                  I hate it because: 1. I didn't invent it 2. My parents keep reminding me that I didn't invent it

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                                  • B bantling

                                    I'm not a hater of anything, but I generally dislike online services, be it FB or anything else, because: a) They appear and disappear at random. You never know when something you like is suddenly gone. b) When they disappear, you typically get a very short window to grab your data, if you want it and it's your only copy. c) Privacy policies change at will. d) UIs change at will. It is easy to say that if you're not paying, then you're not the target, just the product. But this implies that if you were paying, then your voice should be important. That leads to two questions: 1) Are paid services really any better, or do they just do the same stuff anyway? 2) If there is no option to pay, then how do you get a service that is what you want, where you are the target and not the product? I don't want to be a product, I want a service that is useful to me. I don't find it useful to me for random changes in UI or anything else. I don't need and don't want services I can't rely on. As a result, I use very few online services. Most of the stuff that crops up, I just don't care, any more than I care about the lastest javascript framework of the hour. For some services, like email, I want services that are like a wrench - it was a 15mm silver wrench 5 years ago, and it's a 15mm silver wrench today. Same colour, sits in the same box, does the same thing. Why on earth do I need new shiny features in my email? It's such a basic thing, it should rarely change. Sometimes things are done just right. A great example of doing it right is online banking. You pay for your online banking thru fees, you are the target, your feedback actually goes into the next version. They do a big change maybe once every 3-5 years, and otherwise stay the same, it's more like a desktop boxed product. And that upgrade is actually better by any reasonable definition, not just shiny and cool and glittery. This is exactly what I want - I'm just paying bills and tracking my expenses, the same stuff I was doing 5 years go with online banking. And I don't get damned ads pestering me every frigging visit. For free services, I like CP for the same reasons. I just use it to follow articles on the news section about quasi-programming related stuff. Works pretty much the same as it did when I started, get a list of articles, pick a few, read them. Why is it so hard to find more services like this? Why do they all have to obsess over glittery coolness and one-upping each other like schoolyard children? I don't give a s**t about the la

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                                    monk7777
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                                    bantling: i just want to applaud your insightful and well organized thoughts about the economic tradeoffs between free and paid services.

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