Finding other developers for the next...
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No, this is not another spam for the next *big* >insert noun here<. I'm not trying to sell snake oil, or get you to help program the next greatest OS, APP, or GAME. I've been doing searches on the search engine and looking at other sites to see where other developers (mainly hobbist) can be found. I wish to gather a group of people with the same interest and start doing some team development, on almost anything. I want to be able to see the process thru design, code, and implementation with a team. I have been developing software in this industry as an individual and since I did not take any formal programming classes have never had a chance to develop as a team member, and I would like to fill that small hole now :-) Where can I go to find others with interest? I tried looking into open source, but most of those projects are handled by fanatics, or people who are more skilled than I :-( I just want to get together with some other hobbyist and actually build something as a team, and I'm hoping that with others that will give me the incentive to actually complete some of the stuff I started :-) So my questions are (after that long diatribe) is anyone know any good sites to find others? (I have tried sourceforge.net, asynchrony.com, developers.com, etc...), or usenet groups, or anyone, even if they just started programming. Please post other resources or information on where to go, or better yet, any of your advice to gather people together with similiar interest. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
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No, this is not another spam for the next *big* >insert noun here<. I'm not trying to sell snake oil, or get you to help program the next greatest OS, APP, or GAME. I've been doing searches on the search engine and looking at other sites to see where other developers (mainly hobbist) can be found. I wish to gather a group of people with the same interest and start doing some team development, on almost anything. I want to be able to see the process thru design, code, and implementation with a team. I have been developing software in this industry as an individual and since I did not take any formal programming classes have never had a chance to develop as a team member, and I would like to fill that small hole now :-) Where can I go to find others with interest? I tried looking into open source, but most of those projects are handled by fanatics, or people who are more skilled than I :-( I just want to get together with some other hobbyist and actually build something as a team, and I'm hoping that with others that will give me the incentive to actually complete some of the stuff I started :-) So my questions are (after that long diatribe) is anyone know any good sites to find others? (I have tried sourceforge.net, asynchrony.com, developers.com, etc...), or usenet groups, or anyone, even if they just started programming. Please post other resources or information on where to go, or better yet, any of your advice to gather people together with similiar interest. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
Well, there are a few places. SourceForge is a great place. Hundreds of projects going on (though admitedly, most are duds). And if you don't see something you like, start a project.
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Well, there are a few places. SourceForge is a great place. Hundreds of projects going on (though admitedly, most are duds). And if you don't see something you like, start a project.
I've been there, and I was kind of hesitant especially when I saw something along this line... "[BEATNIK OS] A new OS that is going to run everything from MAC, UNIX, Win 9x/ME/NT/2K, and Linux all on the same OS." I know this one is a no brainer, and I'm a coder, I was really hoping to find someone that has an idea :-) I find being a programming kind of guy I don't have all the qualities others have like the ability to draw, paint, and other creative stuff :-( Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
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I've been there, and I was kind of hesitant especially when I saw something along this line... "[BEATNIK OS] A new OS that is going to run everything from MAC, UNIX, Win 9x/ME/NT/2K, and Linux all on the same OS." I know this one is a no brainer, and I'm a coder, I was really hoping to find someone that has an idea :-) I find being a programming kind of guy I don't have all the qualities others have like the ability to draw, paint, and other creative stuff :-( Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
There are lots of smaller projects on sourceforge. I'm sure you can find something to work on there if you really want to. I would try to find a piece of a larger project you can become the expert on. For instance take a 3d modelling program as an example. You could break it down into these components: 1. GUI 2. 3d file import and export library 3. 2d file import and export library 4. scripting system 5. 3d kernel 6. real-time 3d rendering 7. photorealistic 3d rendering 8. 3rd party plugin system 9. install program 10. cross-platform support 11. animation system 12. etc. etc. As you research the available projects look for one that incorporates good programming practices such as source code control, properly documented code (the project leader shouldn't let anyone check any code in until it's properly documented), maybe follows a strict set of rules for formatting code, uses a lot of good debugging tools to catch bugs during development rather than at the end. Things that like that will give you a good foundation going foreward and will help make you a much more productive programmer. good luck and have fun
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No, this is not another spam for the next *big* >insert noun here<. I'm not trying to sell snake oil, or get you to help program the next greatest OS, APP, or GAME. I've been doing searches on the search engine and looking at other sites to see where other developers (mainly hobbist) can be found. I wish to gather a group of people with the same interest and start doing some team development, on almost anything. I want to be able to see the process thru design, code, and implementation with a team. I have been developing software in this industry as an individual and since I did not take any formal programming classes have never had a chance to develop as a team member, and I would like to fill that small hole now :-) Where can I go to find others with interest? I tried looking into open source, but most of those projects are handled by fanatics, or people who are more skilled than I :-( I just want to get together with some other hobbyist and actually build something as a team, and I'm hoping that with others that will give me the incentive to actually complete some of the stuff I started :-) So my questions are (after that long diatribe) is anyone know any good sites to find others? (I have tried sourceforge.net, asynchrony.com, developers.com, etc...), or usenet groups, or anyone, even if they just started programming. Please post other resources or information on where to go, or better yet, any of your advice to gather people together with similiar interest. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
Well, I'm sure I'm not more skilled than you, although I can be somewhat fanatic at times.... If your idea involves anything I'm keen to learn I'd be happy to pitch in. Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" The careful application of terror is also a form of communication. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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Well, I'm sure I'm not more skilled than you, although I can be somewhat fanatic at times.... If your idea involves anything I'm keen to learn I'd be happy to pitch in. Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" The careful application of terror is also a form of communication. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Nice to hear from you again, aren't you still reading the COM books between bus rides :-) I'm looking for others who just love to program and get together and either learn code, produce freeware, open source, or commercial code. It is interesting how many private emails I had sent to me from people who are interested. If you're thinking of some sort of project Christian, let me know, I'm keen on working on COM, but someone has to write the code for a front end to a COM object:-). Or, anything else you have interest in, just stay in there with me. Either post or email me something that would interest you, I'm putting together a server farm on my end for CVS, and such ;-) But I really want someone else there to program with, whatever the skill level, because I find that I learn more and better, and have incentive to complete projects if someone is there depending on me. Let me know...but I'm a programmer, meaning I have no creative bone in my body. If there is a particular subject or application you would like to work on let me know, I want to pull out of this working on a team, and collabarating with someone other then myself. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
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Nice to hear from you again, aren't you still reading the COM books between bus rides :-) I'm looking for others who just love to program and get together and either learn code, produce freeware, open source, or commercial code. It is interesting how many private emails I had sent to me from people who are interested. If you're thinking of some sort of project Christian, let me know, I'm keen on working on COM, but someone has to write the code for a front end to a COM object:-). Or, anything else you have interest in, just stay in there with me. Either post or email me something that would interest you, I'm putting together a server farm on my end for CVS, and such ;-) But I really want someone else there to program with, whatever the skill level, because I find that I learn more and better, and have incentive to complete projects if someone is there depending on me. Let me know...but I'm a programmer, meaning I have no creative bone in my body. If there is a particular subject or application you would like to work on let me know, I want to pull out of this working on a team, and collabarating with someone other then myself. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
Actually I bought a bike and now ride to work and back. I got sick of paying for bus tickets. I've finished my COM books, I'm doing my ATL graphics filter library for GDI+ and waiting for my new ATL books to arrive. I've been going back to my STL book, because STL rocks. I don't really have any ideas right now, I'll try to think of something though. I started a Visual C++ add in tracks bugs, that might be a cool idea to run with, because if we did it for the fun of it, we could post it here and hopefully people would find it useful... Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" The careful application of terror is also a form of communication. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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No, this is not another spam for the next *big* >insert noun here<. I'm not trying to sell snake oil, or get you to help program the next greatest OS, APP, or GAME. I've been doing searches on the search engine and looking at other sites to see where other developers (mainly hobbist) can be found. I wish to gather a group of people with the same interest and start doing some team development, on almost anything. I want to be able to see the process thru design, code, and implementation with a team. I have been developing software in this industry as an individual and since I did not take any formal programming classes have never had a chance to develop as a team member, and I would like to fill that small hole now :-) Where can I go to find others with interest? I tried looking into open source, but most of those projects are handled by fanatics, or people who are more skilled than I :-( I just want to get together with some other hobbyist and actually build something as a team, and I'm hoping that with others that will give me the incentive to actually complete some of the stuff I started :-) So my questions are (after that long diatribe) is anyone know any good sites to find others? (I have tried sourceforge.net, asynchrony.com, developers.com, etc...), or usenet groups, or anyone, even if they just started programming. Please post other resources or information on where to go, or better yet, any of your advice to gather people together with similiar interest. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
There is a site that may interest you at http://www.asynchrony.com. The list group member 'resumes' and offer the capability to search for both projects and open developers.
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Actually I bought a bike and now ride to work and back. I got sick of paying for bus tickets. I've finished my COM books, I'm doing my ATL graphics filter library for GDI+ and waiting for my new ATL books to arrive. I've been going back to my STL book, because STL rocks. I don't really have any ideas right now, I'll try to think of something though. I started a Visual C++ add in tracks bugs, that might be a cool idea to run with, because if we did it for the fun of it, we could post it here and hopefully people would find it useful... Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" The careful application of terror is also a form of communication. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Nice to know you got a bike! Dang, now you moved onto an ATL graphic filter and working on the next version GDI+, sheesh, I might be to far behind to keep you going, I'd be like a big chain and ball ;-) Integrated bug tracking sounds cool, and I would love to post it here if we made it, let me know if you want to go with that ideal. Sounds cool! Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
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There is a site that may interest you at http://www.asynchrony.com. The list group member 'resumes' and offer the capability to search for both projects and open developers.
I tried that site, but unfortunetly participation in the site is very low. They have a great concept though. But if you look on the message boards you'll see messages with months between posting. If all the people on their where active it would be a wonderful resource to gather others. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
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No, this is not another spam for the next *big* >insert noun here<. I'm not trying to sell snake oil, or get you to help program the next greatest OS, APP, or GAME. I've been doing searches on the search engine and looking at other sites to see where other developers (mainly hobbist) can be found. I wish to gather a group of people with the same interest and start doing some team development, on almost anything. I want to be able to see the process thru design, code, and implementation with a team. I have been developing software in this industry as an individual and since I did not take any formal programming classes have never had a chance to develop as a team member, and I would like to fill that small hole now :-) Where can I go to find others with interest? I tried looking into open source, but most of those projects are handled by fanatics, or people who are more skilled than I :-( I just want to get together with some other hobbyist and actually build something as a team, and I'm hoping that with others that will give me the incentive to actually complete some of the stuff I started :-) So my questions are (after that long diatribe) is anyone know any good sites to find others? (I have tried sourceforge.net, asynchrony.com, developers.com, etc...), or usenet groups, or anyone, even if they just started programming. Please post other resources or information on where to go, or better yet, any of your advice to gather people together with similiar interest. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
An app I'd realy like to see a group develop is, believe it or not, a full featured email client. I've been using Calypso for years as it was one of the first email clients that did a good job of handling multiple email accounts. Unfortunately Calypso has died recently, which is a real pity. No serious work had been done on it for a few years so it was definetly getting a little stale. That said I believe it has one of the best UI's (easy to use) of any email client I've seen. They've now made it available as free download if any one is interested. See www.mcsdallas.com I've had a look around over the past month and the best email client I've found so far is "The Bat" http://www.ritlabs.com/the\_bat If it only combined the clean simple UI of Calypso it would be great, but it has a way to go in this dept I'm afraid. So unless someone knows of a full featured, easy to use, well documented, responsive and robust email client that I'm not aware of I seriously think this would be a winner. BTW I have no interest in using any MS Email Clients. Well thats my tuppence worth. Thoughts please? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com
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An app I'd realy like to see a group develop is, believe it or not, a full featured email client. I've been using Calypso for years as it was one of the first email clients that did a good job of handling multiple email accounts. Unfortunately Calypso has died recently, which is a real pity. No serious work had been done on it for a few years so it was definetly getting a little stale. That said I believe it has one of the best UI's (easy to use) of any email client I've seen. They've now made it available as free download if any one is interested. See www.mcsdallas.com I've had a look around over the past month and the best email client I've found so far is "The Bat" http://www.ritlabs.com/the\_bat If it only combined the clean simple UI of Calypso it would be great, but it has a way to go in this dept I'm afraid. So unless someone knows of a full featured, easy to use, well documented, responsive and robust email client that I'm not aware of I seriously think this would be a winner. BTW I have no interest in using any MS Email Clients. Well thats my tuppence worth. Thoughts please? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com
I think that would be a great idea. An e-mail client shouldn't be that hard to develop. There's POP and SMTP classes on CodeProject and CodeGuru that would take care of the sending and receiving e-mails. The only difficulty may be in getting a good freeware MIME package for decoding those multi-part mail messages.
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I think that would be a great idea. An e-mail client shouldn't be that hard to develop. There's POP and SMTP classes on CodeProject and CodeGuru that would take care of the sending and receiving e-mails. The only difficulty may be in getting a good freeware MIME package for decoding those multi-part mail messages.
Well thats one vote - thanks. I'm afraid I don't share your notion of this being "not too hard" though. Sending and receiving email is just one (small) part of a full blown email client. You need a (fast) database to store everything, a folder system where you can drag and drop messages, a comprehensive rule based filtering system, a full fledged address book, templates, account management, HTML editing and viewing, searching etc, etc. The bottom line is that to develop a client I would want to use is a reasonably large undertaking. I'd want most all of the capabilities in both Calypso and The Bat. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com
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There is a site that may interest you at http://www.asynchrony.com. The list group member 'resumes' and offer the capability to search for both projects and open developers.
I have signed up for at least 3 projects at asynchrony.com. I was accepted as a member of the "teams" but months went by and I never heard back from anyone. It is a good concept but I don't think anyone who has a good idea and is serious about developing it would post it out there for someone else to steal.
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Nice to know you got a bike! Dang, now you moved onto an ATL graphic filter and working on the next version GDI+, sheesh, I might be to far behind to keep you going, I'd be like a big chain and ball ;-) Integrated bug tracking sounds cool, and I would love to post it here if we made it, let me know if you want to go with that ideal. Sounds cool! Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
Let's not confuse knowing a little about lots of things with any degree of actual skill ;) I think a collaboration sounds like just the thing to light a fire under my backside and get this project moving again, so if you're keen just LMK how we set it up and get it going. Just give me a bit of time to rest from meeting the latest deadline at work and also to skim my code and make it presentable !!! ( Istill at the 'I'm fiddling around to learn how this works' stage. ) Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" The careful application of terror is also a form of communication. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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Well thats one vote - thanks. I'm afraid I don't share your notion of this being "not too hard" though. Sending and receiving email is just one (small) part of a full blown email client. You need a (fast) database to store everything, a folder system where you can drag and drop messages, a comprehensive rule based filtering system, a full fledged address book, templates, account management, HTML editing and viewing, searching etc, etc. The bottom line is that to develop a client I would want to use is a reasonably large undertaking. I'd want most all of the capabilities in both Calypso and The Bat. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com
Actually most of this is already built into MFC and free classes on CP. We already have apps that can do most of this and they are not hard to build. Access works fine as a database with DAO interface. Not the fastest, but fast enough. Can store anything there. Windows already has folders and these can also be done inside the DB. Rules are a little harder, but that is just parsing code with a user interface. MFC already has HTML hooks as well as other freeware classes. MIME classes are also available as well as SMTP and MAPI. Outlook style displays are also on CP as freeware. When you get done, what you have is something like Outlook or Outlook Express. Other features can be added as desired, things like auto text-to-speech for new E-Mail, page me on my beeper when I get a mail from XYZ, call me on my cell phone and read back my new mail, turn the lights on at home when I send a special E-Mail, send me a mail at work if someone rings the door bell... Ed
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Well thats one vote - thanks. I'm afraid I don't share your notion of this being "not too hard" though. Sending and receiving email is just one (small) part of a full blown email client. You need a (fast) database to store everything, a folder system where you can drag and drop messages, a comprehensive rule based filtering system, a full fledged address book, templates, account management, HTML editing and viewing, searching etc, etc. The bottom line is that to develop a client I would want to use is a reasonably large undertaking. I'd want most all of the capabilities in both Calypso and The Bat. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com
Thanks for the suggestion, it's great to hear someone who has ED throw in their two cents :-). I was throwing around the idea of an EMAIL client, but for some reason I made it look much HARDER than what you outlined above ;-D. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
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No, this is not another spam for the next *big* >insert noun here<. I'm not trying to sell snake oil, or get you to help program the next greatest OS, APP, or GAME. I've been doing searches on the search engine and looking at other sites to see where other developers (mainly hobbist) can be found. I wish to gather a group of people with the same interest and start doing some team development, on almost anything. I want to be able to see the process thru design, code, and implementation with a team. I have been developing software in this industry as an individual and since I did not take any formal programming classes have never had a chance to develop as a team member, and I would like to fill that small hole now :-) Where can I go to find others with interest? I tried looking into open source, but most of those projects are handled by fanatics, or people who are more skilled than I :-( I just want to get together with some other hobbyist and actually build something as a team, and I'm hoping that with others that will give me the incentive to actually complete some of the stuff I started :-) So my questions are (after that long diatribe) is anyone know any good sites to find others? (I have tried sourceforge.net, asynchrony.com, developers.com, etc...), or usenet groups, or anyone, even if they just started programming. Please post other resources or information on where to go, or better yet, any of your advice to gather people together with similiar interest. Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
It is good to know other people out there are interested in the same thing. Never mind looking elsewhere for developers I found a lot of them here, since we are going ot develop something as a group what sounds great is if we also document getting the group together, our development techniques, trials and tribulations :-) That would make a great article on CodeProject along with the source code and application we develop. What do u think guys? Sam C ---- Systems Manager Hospitality Marketing Associates
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An app I'd realy like to see a group develop is, believe it or not, a full featured email client. I've been using Calypso for years as it was one of the first email clients that did a good job of handling multiple email accounts. Unfortunately Calypso has died recently, which is a real pity. No serious work had been done on it for a few years so it was definetly getting a little stale. That said I believe it has one of the best UI's (easy to use) of any email client I've seen. They've now made it available as free download if any one is interested. See www.mcsdallas.com I've had a look around over the past month and the best email client I've found so far is "The Bat" http://www.ritlabs.com/the\_bat If it only combined the clean simple UI of Calypso it would be great, but it has a way to go in this dept I'm afraid. So unless someone knows of a full featured, easy to use, well documented, responsive and robust email client that I'm not aware of I seriously think this would be a winner. BTW I have no interest in using any MS Email Clients. Well thats my tuppence worth. Thoughts please? Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com
Wow - I thought I was the only Calypso user out there. I agree about the UI - very simple and easy to use, no fluff, even though that app icon is about as ugly as any I've seen. A sad day.
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Wow - I thought I was the only Calypso user out there. I agree about the UI - very simple and easy to use, no fluff, even though that app icon is about as ugly as any I've seen. A sad day.
Tis a sad day. You have to wonder what happened and why. I got to know a guy there quite well and sent him an email a few weeks back but it just bounced. They are making noises about making the source code available, but haven't worked out how they are going to do this yet. What is weird is that someone put a Calypso submission up on www.betanews.com about two weeks back. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows www.getsoft.com