Interesting commentary
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Paul Watson wrote: No, anyone blindly pro-American gets flamed. People with well thought out support of America are welcome. Oddly enough, as an American, I have the right to free speech, and that includes any such speech that is blindly pro-American, or well thought out and supportive of America. Just as any other American who enjoys the right to free speech has the right to flame me out. Whether or not what I have to say is welcome is completely irrelevant.
Jack Knife wrote: as an American CP isn't 'America'. and it's actually private property. so, you or I actually have no 'rights' here. :) (tho we're all very grateful to CM and crew for allowing us to play here) -c
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It probably got a 1 for a couple of reasons, 1. It should have gone in the Soapbox 2. Most of us are pretty sick of reading this kind of post. As Chris said the other day, the way to show people we aren't interested in a subject is with our votes. Michael He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious - Sun Tzu (The Art of War)
Michael P Butler wrote: Most of us are pretty sick of reading this kind of post. As Chris said the other day, the way to show people we aren't interested in a subject is with our votes. Actually, they give the ACs of CP a feeding frenzy. The rating system was created to be a good thing, but the pathway to hell is paved with good intentions. It's abused by idiots; therefore, the normal CPians either play the idiot game or brush it off - which makes the whole rating system pointless in the first place. [edit] BTW, I'm also tired of the political (and cricket ;P) posts, but I believe well-placed "shut the hell up" comments by the guys up top (that's you Chris) would do more than a rating. [edit] Jeremy Falcon
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Paul Watson wrote: Just as blind American hatred is also flamed Compare the numbers Paul. Any regular knows who gets bashed the most. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Compare the numbers Pual. Any regular knows who gets bashed the most. Funny that, the CP figures say the majority here are Americans. I wonder why there is so much America bashing then? Odd. I was just commenting that well thought out pro-American posts get a much better response than the "We, the US, rock, you, Rest Of World, suck" posts we often get. Anyway. Don't want to argue about this with you Jeremy. You know my feelings on the US and I know yours. Plus you are a Good Yank, don't want to ruin that ;)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
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Kevnar wrote: It's nice to hear some straight forward common sense on the Iraq issue in the midst of all the rhetoric and propaghanda. Just goes to prove Einstien's point that "common sense" is nothing more than the sum of the prejudices we accumulate by age 18. In truth, this is nothing more than a bunch of right-wing propaganda.
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It's not cool at all :mad: The world faces a competition between the self-interests of Saddam and his French and German friends ... Anyone who says that French and Germans are Saddam's friends must be totally crazy. ... and British and American-led interests seeking to enforce international law This must be a joke ...
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Compare the numbers Pual. Any regular knows who gets bashed the most. Funny that, the CP figures say the majority here are Americans. I wonder why there is so much America bashing then? Odd. I was just commenting that well thought out pro-American posts get a much better response than the "We, the US, rock, you, Rest Of World, suck" posts we often get. Anyway. Don't want to argue about this with you Jeremy. You know my feelings on the US and I know yours. Plus you are a Good Yank, don't want to ruin that ;)
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
Paul Watson wrote: Funny that, the CP figures say the majority here are Americans. I wonder why there is so much America bashing then? Odd. Because most of them aren't active posters. Look at the ones who are. Paul Watson wrote: Plus you are a Good Yank, don't want to ruin that Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. ;P Jeremy Falcon Imputek
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Paul Watson wrote: Funny that, the CP figures say the majority here are Americans. I wonder why there is so much America bashing then? Odd. Because most of them aren't active posters. Look at the ones who are. Paul Watson wrote: Plus you are a Good Yank, don't want to ruin that Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. ;P Jeremy Falcon Imputek
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.
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Kevnar wrote: It's nice to hear some straight forward common sense on the Iraq issue in the midst of all the rhetoric and propaghanda. Just goes to prove Einstien's point that "common sense" is nothing more than the sum of the prejudices we accumulate by age 18. In truth, this is nothing more than a bunch of right-wing propaganda.
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Jack Knife wrote: Oddly enough, as an American, I have the right to free speech, and that includes any such speech that is blindly pro-American, or well thought out and supportive of America. Just as any other American who enjoys the right to free speech has the right to flame me out. Errr... Right On Brother! Yeah, errr. Yes... Umm... were we talking about freedom of speech? I thought it was about what gets flamed and what does not...
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
There it is .... light that match, baby!
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Kevnar wrote: It's nice to hear some straight forward common sense on the Iraq issue in the midst of all the rhetoric and propaghanda. Just goes to prove Einstien's point that "common sense" is nothing more than the sum of the prejudices we accumulate by age 18. In truth, this is nothing more than a bunch of right-wing propaganda.
Jim A. Johnson wrote: Just goes to prove Einstien's point that "common sense" is nothing more than the sum of the prejudices we accumulate by age 18. Don't get me wrong, I think Einstein was damned-near godlike, but to take everything ever uttered by him as divine inspiration is just ludicrous. When it comes to the human mind, I choose Freud. I'll leave physics to Einstein. Jim A. Johnson wrote: In truth, this is nothing more than a bunch of right-wing propaganda. Yeah, how dare we fight fire with fire. It's only okay for the left-wing I see. Jeremy Falcon Imputek
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.
Stan Shannon wrote: Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? Well, this just took a different turn. :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.
Stan Shannon wrote: Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? Would Yank be considered a really bad word to use for an American? Or is it only really offensive to Southerners? I don't mean bad as in you, or they, might get a bit offended. Bad as in if I said it at Grand Central in New York (or wherever the word is taboo) I would be promptly pushed onto the rails and then hung up as an example? e.g. Like Kafir is a no-no word in South Africa. Thing is a lot of movies use it (don't reply with "That is the movies Paul" because we would never use Kafir in a movie even) and from my understanding it is quite a light, jovial term. Like redneck or hillbilly.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
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Michael P Butler wrote: Most of us are pretty sick of reading this kind of post. As Chris said the other day, the way to show people we aren't interested in a subject is with our votes. Actually, they give the ACs of CP a feeding frenzy. The rating system was created to be a good thing, but the pathway to hell is paved with good intentions. It's abused by idiots; therefore, the normal CPians either play the idiot game or brush it off - which makes the whole rating system pointless in the first place. [edit] BTW, I'm also tired of the political (and cricket ;P) posts, but I believe well-placed "shut the hell up" comments by the guys up top (that's you Chris) would do more than a rating. [edit] Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: (and cricket ;P) ;P Cricket CRICKET C-R-I-C-K-E-T ;P
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"It is France that is truly motivated by oil politics, and Germany that is motivated by economics, not the U.S." I stopped reading here.
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Jack Knife wrote: as an American CP isn't 'America'. and it's actually private property. so, you or I actually have no 'rights' here. :) (tho we're all very grateful to CM and crew for allowing us to play here) -c
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Chris Losinger wrote: CP isn't 'America'. and it's actually private property. so, you or I actually have no 'rights' here Point taken, my comment was unwarranted and I apologize to Paul. I greatly enjoy the exchange of information and opinions between developers regardless of the political opinions expressed by each.
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Paul Watson wrote: Just as blind American hatred is also flamed Compare the numbers Paul. Any regular knows who gets bashed the most. Jeremy Falcon
Exactly, and what the hell have the French ever done to you? :mad: I'd better stop this piss taking actually as more and more I am seeing sincere comments being made to the same effect. Utterly ridiculous! :(
David Wulff
"David Wulff can't live without me, so you shouldn't either" - Paul Watson
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Exactly, and what the hell have the French ever done to you? :mad: I'd better stop this piss taking actually as more and more I am seeing sincere comments being made to the same effect. Utterly ridiculous! :(
David Wulff
"David Wulff can't live without me, so you shouldn't either" - Paul Watson
Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast. http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2003/03/11/fries/index.html[^] everybody knows France is opposed to "freedom". duh. i can't wait for Freedom Kissing, Freedom Bread and Freedom Cuffs. then maybe we can start getting rid of all the French words in the English language. then we'd be speaking... oh yeah, German. -c
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Stan Shannon wrote: Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? Would Yank be considered a really bad word to use for an American? Or is it only really offensive to Southerners? I don't mean bad as in you, or they, might get a bit offended. Bad as in if I said it at Grand Central in New York (or wherever the word is taboo) I would be promptly pushed onto the rails and then hung up as an example? e.g. Like Kafir is a no-no word in South Africa. Thing is a lot of movies use it (don't reply with "That is the movies Paul" because we would never use Kafir in a movie even) and from my understanding it is quite a light, jovial term. Like redneck or hillbilly.
Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
Yanks are only bad in the context of North vs. South, I think at this point in our history most people are blissfully unaware of the Brits (and their previous colonies) tendency to refer to us as Yanks. I honestly believe that quite a few Americans nowdays even know about us being "yanks".:~ Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Yanks are only bad in the context of North vs. South, I think at this point in our history most people are blissfully unaware of the Brits (and their previous colonies) tendency to refer to us as Yanks. I honestly believe that quite a few Americans nowdays even know about us being "yanks".:~ Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: I honestly believe that quite a few Americans nowdays even know about us being "yanks". Wow, serious? As you mention a lot of Brits still call Americans Yanks. Whenever we are being flippant about Americans we also call them Yanks. Just like there are the Poms, the Frogs etc. Thanks.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
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Stan Shannon wrote: Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? Would Yank be considered a really bad word to use for an American? Or is it only really offensive to Southerners? I don't mean bad as in you, or they, might get a bit offended. Bad as in if I said it at Grand Central in New York (or wherever the word is taboo) I would be promptly pushed onto the rails and then hung up as an example? e.g. Like Kafir is a no-no word in South Africa. Thing is a lot of movies use it (don't reply with "That is the movies Paul" because we would never use Kafir in a movie even) and from my understanding it is quite a light, jovial term. Like redneck or hillbilly.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
I would rather be called a Texan - that most superior form of American. If called a yank it had best be done at long range. Do Brits like being called a "Limey ". Do most even know where that term came from ?. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles