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  • K Kevnar

    This[^] is cool. It's nice to hear some straight forward common sense on the Iraq issue in the midst of all the rhetoric and propaghanda.

    "How many more people have to die before no one ever dies again?" - Daniel Haley, The Onion

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    Jim A Johnson
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    Kevnar wrote: It's nice to hear some straight forward common sense on the Iraq issue in the midst of all the rhetoric and propaghanda. Just goes to prove Einstien's point that "common sense" is nothing more than the sum of the prejudices we accumulate by age 18. In truth, this is nothing more than a bunch of right-wing propaganda.

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      It's not cool at all :mad: The world faces a competition between the self-interests of Saddam and his French and German friends ... Anyone who says that French and Germans are Saddam's friends must be totally crazy. ... and British and American-led interests seeking to enforce international law This must be a joke ...

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      tidge
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      riiiiiiiiight. not saying they are friends, but how much trade goes on between France and Iraq? Quite a bit I believe. I haven't looked up the numbers recently, but as of a few years ago France earned a lot of money in trade with Iraq.

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        Jeremy Falcon wrote: Compare the numbers Pual. Any regular knows who gets bashed the most. Funny that, the CP figures say the majority here are Americans. I wonder why there is so much America bashing then? Odd. I was just commenting that well thought out pro-American posts get a much better response than the "We, the US, rock, you, Rest Of World, suck" posts we often get. Anyway. Don't want to argue about this with you Jeremy. You know my feelings on the US and I know yours. Plus you are a Good Yank, don't want to ruin that ;)

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        Paul Watson wrote: Funny that, the CP figures say the majority here are Americans. I wonder why there is so much America bashing then? Odd. Because most of them aren't active posters. Look at the ones who are. Paul Watson wrote: Plus you are a Good Yank, don't want to ruin that Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. ;P Jeremy Falcon Imputek

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        • J Jim A Johnson

          Kevnar wrote: It's nice to hear some straight forward common sense on the Iraq issue in the midst of all the rhetoric and propaghanda. Just goes to prove Einstien's point that "common sense" is nothing more than the sum of the prejudices we accumulate by age 18. In truth, this is nothing more than a bunch of right-wing propaganda.

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          Tim Smith
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          Yeah, that damn Blix is such a right wing war monger. How dare he report that Iraq has failed to live up to the resolutions. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            Paul Watson wrote: Funny that, the CP figures say the majority here are Americans. I wonder why there is so much America bashing then? Odd. Because most of them aren't active posters. Look at the ones who are. Paul Watson wrote: Plus you are a Good Yank, don't want to ruin that Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. ;P Jeremy Falcon Imputek

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            Stan Shannon
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            Jeremy Falcon wrote: Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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              Jack Knife wrote: Oddly enough, as an American, I have the right to free speech, and that includes any such speech that is blindly pro-American, or well thought out and supportive of America. Just as any other American who enjoys the right to free speech has the right to flame me out. Errr... Right On Brother! Yeah, errr. Yes... Umm... were we talking about freedom of speech? I thought it was about what gets flamed and what does not...

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
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              Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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              Jack Knife
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              There it is .... light that match, baby!

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              • J Jim A Johnson

                Kevnar wrote: It's nice to hear some straight forward common sense on the Iraq issue in the midst of all the rhetoric and propaghanda. Just goes to prove Einstien's point that "common sense" is nothing more than the sum of the prejudices we accumulate by age 18. In truth, this is nothing more than a bunch of right-wing propaganda.

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Jim A. Johnson wrote: Just goes to prove Einstien's point that "common sense" is nothing more than the sum of the prejudices we accumulate by age 18. Don't get me wrong, I think Einstein was damned-near godlike, but to take everything ever uttered by him as divine inspiration is just ludicrous. When it comes to the human mind, I choose Freud. I'll leave physics to Einstein. Jim A. Johnson wrote: In truth, this is nothing more than a bunch of right-wing propaganda. Yeah, how dare we fight fire with fire. It's only okay for the left-wing I see. Jeremy Falcon Imputek

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                  Jeremy Falcon wrote: Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  Stan Shannon wrote: Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? Well, this just took a different turn. :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek

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                  • S Stan Shannon

                    Jeremy Falcon wrote: Ya know, in a different context... well nevermind. Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Stan Shannon wrote: Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? Would Yank be considered a really bad word to use for an American? Or is it only really offensive to Southerners? I don't mean bad as in you, or they, might get a bit offended. Bad as in if I said it at Grand Central in New York (or wherever the word is taboo) I would be promptly pushed onto the rails and then hung up as an example? e.g. Like Kafir is a no-no word in South Africa. Thing is a lot of movies use it (don't reply with "That is the movies Paul" because we would never use Kafir in a movie even) and from my understanding it is quite a light, jovial term. Like redneck or hillbilly.

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      Michael P Butler wrote: Most of us are pretty sick of reading this kind of post. As Chris said the other day, the way to show people we aren't interested in a subject is with our votes. Actually, they give the ACs of CP a feeding frenzy. The rating system was created to be a good thing, but the pathway to hell is paved with good intentions. It's abused by idiots; therefore, the normal CPians either play the idiot game or brush it off - which makes the whole rating system pointless in the first place. [edit] BTW, I'm also tired of the political (and cricket ;P) posts, but I believe well-placed "shut the hell up" comments by the guys up top (that's you Chris) would do more than a rating. [edit] Jeremy Falcon

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                      Rohit Sinha
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                      Jeremy Falcon wrote: (and cricket ;P) ;P Cricket CRICKET C-R-I-C-K-E-T ;P
                      Regards,

                      Rohit Sinha

                      Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
                      - Abraham Lincoln

                      The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
                      - Anonymous

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                      • K Kevnar

                        This[^] is cool. It's nice to hear some straight forward common sense on the Iraq issue in the midst of all the rhetoric and propaghanda.

                        "How many more people have to die before no one ever dies again?" - Daniel Haley, The Onion

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                        Daniel Turini
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                        "It is France that is truly motivated by oil politics, and Germany that is motivated by economics, not the U.S." I stopped reading here.


                        It's not the fall that kills you: it's the sudden stop - Down by Law, Jim Jamursch (1986)

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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          Jack Knife wrote: as an American CP isn't 'America'. and it's actually private property. so, you or I actually have no 'rights' here. :) (tho we're all very grateful to CM and crew for allowing us to play here) -c


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                          Jack Knife
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                          Chris Losinger wrote: CP isn't 'America'. and it's actually private property. so, you or I actually have no 'rights' here Point taken, my comment was unwarranted and I apologize to Paul. I greatly enjoy the exchange of information and opinions between developers regardless of the political opinions expressed by each.

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                          • J Jeremy Falcon

                            Paul Watson wrote: Just as blind American hatred is also flamed Compare the numbers Paul. Any regular knows who gets bashed the most. Jeremy Falcon

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                            David Wulff
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                            Exactly, and what the hell have the French ever done to you? :mad: I'd better stop this piss taking actually as more and more I am seeing sincere comments being made to the same effect. Utterly ridiculous! :(


                            David Wulff

                            "David Wulff can't live without me, so you shouldn't either" - Paul Watson

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                              Exactly, and what the hell have the French ever done to you? :mad: I'd better stop this piss taking actually as more and more I am seeing sincere comments being made to the same effect. Utterly ridiculous! :(


                              David Wulff

                              "David Wulff can't live without me, so you shouldn't either" - Paul Watson

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                              Chris Losinger
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                              Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast. http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2003/03/11/fries/index.html[^] everybody knows France is opposed to "freedom". duh. i can't wait for Freedom Kissing, Freedom Bread and Freedom Cuffs. then maybe we can start getting rid of all the French words in the English language. then we'd be speaking... oh yeah, German. -c


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                              • P Paul Watson

                                Stan Shannon wrote: Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? Would Yank be considered a really bad word to use for an American? Or is it only really offensive to Southerners? I don't mean bad as in you, or they, might get a bit offended. Bad as in if I said it at Grand Central in New York (or wherever the word is taboo) I would be promptly pushed onto the rails and then hung up as an example? e.g. Like Kafir is a no-no word in South Africa. Thing is a lot of movies use it (don't reply with "That is the movies Paul" because we would never use Kafir in a movie even) and from my understanding it is quite a light, jovial term. Like redneck or hillbilly.

                                Paul Watson
                                Bluegrass
                                Cape Town, South Africa

                                Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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                                Doug Goulden
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                                Yanks are only bad in the context of North vs. South, I think at this point in our history most people are blissfully unaware of the Brits (and their previous colonies) tendency to refer to us as Yanks. I honestly believe that quite a few Americans nowdays even know about us being "yanks".:~ Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                  Yanks are only bad in the context of North vs. South, I think at this point in our history most people are blissfully unaware of the Brits (and their previous colonies) tendency to refer to us as Yanks. I honestly believe that quite a few Americans nowdays even know about us being "yanks".:~ Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Doug Goulden wrote: I honestly believe that quite a few Americans nowdays even know about us being "yanks". Wow, serious? As you mention a lot of Brits still call Americans Yanks. Whenever we are being flippant about Americans we also call them Yanks. Just like there are the Poms, the Frogs etc. Thanks.

                                  Paul Watson
                                  Bluegrass
                                  Cape Town, South Africa

                                  Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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                                  • P Paul Watson

                                    Stan Shannon wrote: Really sucks for a good southern boy to be called a "Yank" doesn't it? Would Yank be considered a really bad word to use for an American? Or is it only really offensive to Southerners? I don't mean bad as in you, or they, might get a bit offended. Bad as in if I said it at Grand Central in New York (or wherever the word is taboo) I would be promptly pushed onto the rails and then hung up as an example? e.g. Like Kafir is a no-no word in South Africa. Thing is a lot of movies use it (don't reply with "That is the movies Paul" because we would never use Kafir in a movie even) and from my understanding it is quite a light, jovial term. Like redneck or hillbilly.

                                    Paul Watson
                                    Bluegrass
                                    Cape Town, South Africa

                                    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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                                    Richard Stringer
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                                    I would rather be called a Texan - that most superior form of American. If called a yank it had best be done at long range. Do Brits like being called a "Limey ". Do most even know where that term came from ?. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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                                      Chris Losinger wrote: CP isn't 'America'. and it's actually private property. so, you or I actually have no 'rights' here Point taken, my comment was unwarranted and I apologize to Paul. I greatly enjoy the exchange of information and opinions between developers regardless of the political opinions expressed by each.

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      Jack Knife wrote: and I apologize to Paul No need, I was not offended or angered. My reply above actually was semi-serious. BTW, is Jack Knife your real name? Got a track here, techno, that goes on about "Jack the Knife... yeah, yeah, Jack the Knife."

                                      Paul Watson
                                      Bluegrass
                                      Cape Town, South Africa

                                      Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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                                        Exactly, and what the hell have the French ever done to you? :mad: I'd better stop this piss taking actually as more and more I am seeing sincere comments being made to the same effect. Utterly ridiculous! :(


                                        David Wulff

                                        "David Wulff can't live without me, so you shouldn't either" - Paul Watson

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        David Wulff wrote: Exactly, and what the hell have the French ever done to you? Exactly, and what the hell have the Americans ever done to you? David Wulff wrote: I'd better stop this piss taking actually as more and more I am seeing sincere comments being made to the same effect. Utterly ridiculous! Dude, ever notice you judge way too much? Maybe you should take your own advice and lighten up. Jeremy Falcon Imputek

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                                          Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast. http://www.salon.com/mwt/wire/2003/03/11/fries/index.html[^] everybody knows France is opposed to "freedom". duh. i can't wait for Freedom Kissing, Freedom Bread and Freedom Cuffs. then maybe we can start getting rid of all the French words in the English language. then we'd be speaking... oh yeah, German. -c


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                                          Richard Stringer
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                                          To put it in historical perspective: "France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these drawbacks it is a fine country. France has usually been governed by prostitutes." ---Mark Twain "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." --- General George S. Patton "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." --Norman Schwartzkopf "I just love the French. They taste like chicken!" ---- Hannibal Lecter "We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." ---- Marge Simpson "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure" ---Jacques Chirac, President of France "As far as France is concerned, you're right." ---Rush Limbaugh, "The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into Paris under a German flag." --David Letterman "You know why the French don't want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he hates America, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He is French, people." --Conan O'Brien "I don't know why people are surprised that France won't help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn't help us get the Germans out of France!" ---Jay Leno SUGGESTED REPLACEMENTS FOR THE FRENCH NATIONAL ANTHEM: "Runaway" by Del Shannon, "Walk Right In" by the Rooftop Singers, "Everybody's Somebody's" Fool by Connie Francis, "Running Scared" by Roy Orbison, "I Really Don't Want to Know" by Tommy Edwards, "Surrender" by Elvis Presley, "Save It For Me" by The Four Seasons, "Live and Let Die" by Wings, "I'm Leaving It All Up To You" by Donny and Marie Osmond, "What a Fool Believes" by the Doobie Brothers, "Don't Worry, Be Happy" by Bobby McFerrin "Raise Your Hands" by Jon Bon Jovi Hey : Don't flame me I'm just reporting the facts. Richard In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love; they had five hundred years of democracy and peace and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Orson Welles

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