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  • C Chris Maunder

    I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

    1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
    2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
    3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
    4. Mystery side-effects in code.
    5. Magic numbers

    I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    David ONeil
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    Currently dealing with a codebase that uses magic numbers and tucks them into the window's hMenu member (and uses them from there)! Ghhgh! The other nightmare offense in the code is using "m_" for: a) Some, but not all, member variables. b) Some, but not all, in function variables, including loop indexes. c) Some, but not all, passed function parameters. That was fun to get sorted - NOT. There were even a couple places where the same name was used in two or more different ways, so a project-wide replace would blow up. X| X| X| X| X|

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      I disagree, in a situation like:

      CryptographicUnexpectedOperationException exception = new CryptographicUnexpectedOperationException();

      I find this more readable:

      var exception = new CryptographicUnexpectedOperationException();

      Typing CryptographicUnexpectedOperationException twice in such a short space I think is a bit redundant

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      Forogar
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      It's a pity that we can't use a condensed "new" format like:

      CryptographicUnexpectedOperationException exception = new ();

      which means the same as:

      CryptographicUnexpectedOperationException exception = new CryptographicUnexpectedOperationException();

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        var is handy in two places: 1) When using Linq and returning "An IEnumerable of something, gawddammit, but I have no idea what the compiler is going to call it" 2) To identify people whose code you can't trust because they have no idea or no interest in what type a variable should be. It may save five keystrokes to use var instead of IEnumerable<Customer> but it doesn't help understanding when you have to read the code later.

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        Forogar
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        I use var when I have some method to call that returns a humungously long-named type. I then immediately change it with the "Make Explicit" option. That way I don't have to type it out in full or select from a potentially huge list of intellisense suggestions.

        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          I use var when I have some method to call that returns a humungously long-named type. I then immediately change it with the "Make Explicit" option. That way I don't have to type it out in full or select from a potentially huge list of intellisense suggestions.

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          OriginalGriff
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          Fine by me - it doesn't leave the var in the final code, or treat C# as if it was VB and "don't know, don't care" Dim

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

            1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
            2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
            3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
            4. Mystery side-effects in code.
            5. Magic numbers

            I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            0. Systems hungarian.

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

              1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
              2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
              3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
              4. Mystery side-effects in code.
              5. Magic numbers

              I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Duncan Edwards Jones
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              -2. Swallowing an exception -1. Throwing an exception with no message and just the generic "Exception" class. 0. Using try-catch for normal program flow.. (And these are just the rules to the exception :-) )

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              • L Lost User

                Adding oil to the fire, a practical example;

                using System;
                using System.Threading;
                using System.Windows.Forms;
                using System.Timers;

                namespace ConsoleApplication5
                {
                class Program
                {
                Timer t = new System.Threading.Timer(null); // will not compile, as it is unclear which Timer
                Timer t2 = new System.Windows.Forms.Timer(); // is declared (as opposed to the type instantiated)
                Timer pfld_SysTimrTimrt3 = new System.Timers.Timer(); // using hungarian systems with namespace prefix

                    static void Main(global::System.String\[\]\[\] strSrgs)
                    {
                        global::System.Console.ReadLine();
                    }
                }
                

                }

                And yes, the "console application template" has an entry point which is implicitly private.

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                Soooo... the class is private? :confused: How does that work? Even I avoid global:: -- by using an alias if necessary:

                using MySqlClient=global::MySql.Data.MySqlClient ;

                What the heck is a pfld_ ? A pointer to a fixed long double?

                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                  1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                  2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                  3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                  4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                  5. Magic numbers

                  I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  Things that bug me... 1. Comments. Too often have I seen comments that made no sense, were outdated, wrong or overly obvious. In fact I've learned to ignore comments as they've never helped me in any way. I guess programmers can't write English... 2. Code that is copy-pasted. Often the cause of bugs. 3. Swallowing exceptions. 4. Non-Object Oriented code in Object Oriented languages. 5. Formatting, you've said it. Bonus: 6. Not using brackets in if statements. Very dangerous... I'm working for a company that has worked with VB since the start. The first employees have worked with VB even longer and used Clipper before that. I've seen 1 through 5 all to often :sigh: I've come to hate 6 when we started doing C# and outsourced a project to another company. HORRIBLE!!! I read the code and didn't know if they meant it that way or if they had introduced subtle bugs... A lot of samples I get from the internet have it too. I probably forgot some stuff, but these are a few of my least-favourite things.

                  It's an OO world.

                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                  {
                  public void DoWork()
                  {
                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                  }
                  }

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                    1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                    2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                    3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                    4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                    5. Magic numbers

                    I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    Lost User
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                    I like to mark other's code with the unsafe keyword. That's what it is for, after all. Edit: Really bad things: - Stringly typing - Similar to magic numbers: Literal values and strings all over the place instead of enums, resources or similar. - Spaghetti code, or totally insanely structured code - Global variables, including abuse of the session or caches - managing data in dozens of separate variables instead of using even the most primitive kind of entity - not understanding the framework, being unwilling to learn and contaminating the code with flawed homebrew solutions

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                      1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                      2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                      3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                      4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                      5. Magic numbers

                      I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      Ooh, good thread. Not ones I'm guilty of, but ones I call out in code reviews, that I haven't seen covered elsewhere in this thread: 0. Implementing code that's already part of the framework 1. Explicit path creation (rather than using Path.Combine) 2. Lines that are too long 3. Overly complex lines; these are normally ones that combine numerous statements together using ternary and coalescing null operators (it's a sure sign that someone has Resharper installed). 4. Talking about R#, converting clear code into a muddied part ordinary syntax, part LINQ abomination that you cannot remember what it does so you have to spend 20 minutes figuring out the damn thing. 5. Oh, and while we're at it with LINQ, myList.Where(p=> p.Id == aUniqueId).FirstOrDefault(); This one's a twofer - first of all, if it's a unique number, use SingleOrDefault not FirstOrDefault - you're only getting one value back. Secondly, learn how to use the power of LINQ, that Where statement is redundant so the statement can become myList.SingleOrDefault(p => p.Id == aUniqueId); 6. Not checking inputs into methods for validity. 7. When testing code, not asserting that something has happened. 8. Unnecessary try/catch blocks. 9. Blindly consuming exceptions - I'll have no On Error Resume Next behaviour please. 10. Not checking for null. I once saw a production system go boom because while the main code was properly checking nulls, the code that was reporting out that it couldn't do something because of null values didn't check the value out that it was attempting to log; thus blowing up the system. That's not all, but that should be enough to be getting on with.

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                        I like to mark other's code with the unsafe keyword. That's what it is for, after all. Edit: Really bad things: - Stringly typing - Similar to magic numbers: Literal values and strings all over the place instead of enums, resources or similar. - Spaghetti code, or totally insanely structured code - Global variables, including abuse of the session or caches - managing data in dozens of separate variables instead of using even the most primitive kind of entity - not understanding the framework, being unwilling to learn and contaminating the code with flawed homebrew solutions

                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                        I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        CDP1802 wrote:

                        mark other's code with the unsafe

                        You might not be surprised to learn that I compile all my code with /unsafe. :cool:

                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                          In C# the default is private while in VB it's Public. I absolutely hate that and really dont want to have to remember what the defaults ars supposed to be when scanning over code for problems.

                          I hate that it's public in VB.NET too, but it does not change the way I look at C#. Having tried it, for several months, in both languages, to me, the benefit outweighs the possible disadvantage of confusion.

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                          Dave Kreskowiak
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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            mark merrens wrote:

                            People that tell you their code is 'self-commenting'.

                            Sometimes, it is though.

                            // check if user is valid
                            if(IsUserValid(user))
                            {
                            // update the user
                            UpdateUser(user);
                            }
                            else
                            {
                            // show a messagebox with an error
                            MessageBox(error);
                            }

                            In that snippet, the comments are sorta annoying.

                            Regards, Nish


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                            That isn't self-commenting code, it's badly commented code. Those comments are worthless - but that's not to say that some comments wouldn't be helpful

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                              1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                              2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                              3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                              4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                              5. Magic numbers

                              I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              Willy nilly #including in large code bases. Then you get... Q) Why does my build take an hour? A) Because every source now indirectly includes every header

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                              • R Roger Wright

                                Since I don't do this for a living anymore, my opinion probably doesn't count for much. But back when I did do it, the cost of maintaining code far exceeded the cost of developing it, and I considered a lack of meaningful comments grounds for termination. I still do. Others in my list would include leaving commented-out code in production source, and embedding numeric constants in code for use in calculations. I don't know if that last one is common anymore, but it used to drive me nuts, and I found it in a lot of code.

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                                Roger Wright wrote:

                                I don't know if that last one is common anymore, but it used to drive me nuts, and I found it in a lot of code.

                                Oh, it's still common! I found some code a while ago that the dev had obviously thought he'd done the right thing...

                                const int FiveHundred= 500;

                                Sure, re-factoring is easier (although it was only used in one place anyway) but not the most meaningfull names! (it was for a 1/2 second time out time)

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                                  Adding oil to the fire, a practical example;

                                  using System;
                                  using System.Threading;
                                  using System.Windows.Forms;
                                  using System.Timers;

                                  namespace ConsoleApplication5
                                  {
                                  class Program
                                  {
                                  Timer t = new System.Threading.Timer(null); // will not compile, as it is unclear which Timer
                                  Timer t2 = new System.Windows.Forms.Timer(); // is declared (as opposed to the type instantiated)
                                  Timer pfld_SysTimrTimrt3 = new System.Timers.Timer(); // using hungarian systems with namespace prefix

                                      static void Main(global::System.String\[\]\[\] strSrgs)
                                      {
                                          global::System.Console.ReadLine();
                                      }
                                  }
                                  

                                  }

                                  And yes, the "console application template" has an entry point which is implicitly private.

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                                  Needs comments as it's not clear whatr t, t2 and pfld_SysTimrTimrt3 are ;)

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    I do #2, when I specifically have to work with an object Comments are my major bugbear: I enforce XML comments on all public methods (and add them to non-public ones) and have "warnings as errors" on, so I have to comment my methods as a bare minimum. The rest of the time, I reserve comments for where they are needed. 6) I hate comments that explain exactly what the code is telling you it is doing! I can read the code, dammit - I don't need you to put

                                    if (customer.IsAnIdiot)
                                    {
                                    // If the customer is an idiot then we need to handle it.

                                    1. Out of date comments. This gets my goat. Comments are there to help, when the code is complicated and more explanation is needed. So if you change the damn code, change the damn comments! Or you will hear the sound of a soft cough behind you, and it'll be me, with the ClueBat... 8) Variables names that don't reflect the use and / or purpose. Leaving control names at the VS default for example... ClueBat time!

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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    I do #2

                                    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :-O Oh I really should grow up!

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                                      Not sealing classes by default/crazy overuse of inheritance Just because something needs something else doesn't mean it is a base class of that other thing, I think in a modern programming language you rarely actually need to use inheritance Also, Code that does nothing, but hasn't been taken out of the project, eugh I rarely comment my code unless I am doing something weird, I assume the next developer will be at least as smart as me, if not much much smarter (likely) I might use o as a variable name if I'm maybe inside a for loop inside another for loop (using i for the outer one), everybody should know what for(var i = 0; i < blah; i++) means, anything more descriptive is a waste of keystrokes Everything else I agree with

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                                      HomerTheGreat wrote:

                                      I assume the next developer will be at least as smart as me, if not much much smarter (likely)

                                      Not so. You have business knowledge that you will have accumulated over time. You shouldn't need to comment straight forward code to tell the future devs technically what it is doing, but to explain the business reasons behind it.

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                                        Ooh, good thread. Not ones I'm guilty of, but ones I call out in code reviews, that I haven't seen covered elsewhere in this thread: 0. Implementing code that's already part of the framework 1. Explicit path creation (rather than using Path.Combine) 2. Lines that are too long 3. Overly complex lines; these are normally ones that combine numerous statements together using ternary and coalescing null operators (it's a sure sign that someone has Resharper installed). 4. Talking about R#, converting clear code into a muddied part ordinary syntax, part LINQ abomination that you cannot remember what it does so you have to spend 20 minutes figuring out the damn thing. 5. Oh, and while we're at it with LINQ, myList.Where(p=> p.Id == aUniqueId).FirstOrDefault(); This one's a twofer - first of all, if it's a unique number, use SingleOrDefault not FirstOrDefault - you're only getting one value back. Secondly, learn how to use the power of LINQ, that Where statement is redundant so the statement can become myList.SingleOrDefault(p => p.Id == aUniqueId); 6. Not checking inputs into methods for validity. 7. When testing code, not asserting that something has happened. 8. Unnecessary try/catch blocks. 9. Blindly consuming exceptions - I'll have no On Error Resume Next behaviour please. 10. Not checking for null. I once saw a production system go boom because while the main code was properly checking nulls, the code that was reporting out that it couldn't do something because of null values didn't check the value out that it was attempting to log; thus blowing up the system. That's not all, but that should be enough to be getting on with.

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                                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                        Secondly, learn how to use the power of LINQ, that Where statement is redundant so the statement can become myList.SingleOrDefault(p => p.Id == aUniqueId);

                                        However, using Where(predicate).function rather than Function(predicate) is significantly faster. Incidentally a straight forward While loop is more efficient than either. So if efficiency is a concern (and we're not just talking close here, there's a big enough difference that it counts!) you need to be careful!

                                        var found = collectionClass.FirstOrDefault(i => i.Field == searchValue);

                                        or
                                        2.
                                        var found = collectionClass.Where(i => i.Field == searchValue).FirstOrDefault();

                                        or
                                        3.
                                        foreach(item in collectionClass)
                                        {
                                        if (item.Field = searchValue)
                                        {
                                        found = item;
                                        break;
                                        }
                                        }

                                        The results for 100,000 collection with 100,000 searches? 1. 'normal' 78.5 1. parallel 32.2 2. 'normal' 51.2 2. parallel 31.9 3. 29.9

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          I was thinking about the things that bug me and came up with a short list

                                          1. No comments. I know - let's have a religious war etc, but I find no comments dangerous.
                                          2. using o as a variable name. In fact using anything that's not sensible. ctx, dr_rfp_ptr, i2
                                          3. Bad formatting. It's like walking into a house and being unable to sit down because of empty pizza boxes on the couch
                                          4. Mystery side-effects in code.
                                          5. Magic numbers

                                          I'm guilty of 2 of these on occasion. What's your list?

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          As part of No. 4 in your strangely numbered list (starting at 1!) 4a) Putting anything but the bare minimum in Setters/Getters - part of the project I am working on lives in permanent side-effect hell because some getters access the database to get values (and don't cache them) and some setters access otehr properties that access properties that access properties - and all of them have side effects 0. Method Names that don't match their function, or do more than their function e.g.

                                          bool IsValid(Entity myEntity)
                                          {
                                          if (myEntity.Property = null) return false;

                                          myEntity.OtherProperty = SomeValue;
                                          DbService.Save(myEntity);
                                          
                                          OtherEntity= DbService.GetOtherEntity(myEntity.Property);
                                          
                                          return true;
                                          

                                          }

                                          n.) Double-Negatives

                                          if (!notSaved || !isInvalid)

                                          n+1.) Any code that doesn't look like it would if I wrote it on a good day.

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