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  • M Marco Bertschi

    .. when I say that I hold a Swiss VET diploma as Software Developer. Yes, I officially graduated, but I still wonder how well known the diploma is abroad. Edit: VET as in "vocation education diploma". Edit2: Federal Vocational Education and Training

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    Argonia
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    It depends on the policy of the firm. For example I know a guy who has no diploma yet, but he found himself a work as web dev in England. They judge on what you know, not what you have :) Congrats on your graduation. I wish you the best of luck finding your first real job :)

    Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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    • M Marco Bertschi

      .. when I say that I hold a Swiss VET diploma as Software Developer. Yes, I officially graduated, but I still wonder how well known the diploma is abroad. Edit: VET as in "vocation education diploma". Edit2: Federal Vocational Education and Training

      The console is a black place

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      You look after Tamagocis?

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        It depends on the policy of the firm. For example I know a guy who has no diploma yet, but he found himself a work as web dev in England. They judge on what you know, not what you have :) Congrats on your graduation. I wish you the best of luck finding your first real job :)

        Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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        Marco Bertschi
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        Argonia wrote:

        I wish you the best of luck finding your first real job

        I already had my first "real job", since my work as Apprentice wasn't cooking coffee but implementing crucial parts of the project, including a Hardware Simulator and the Audit Trail ;)

        The console is a black place

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          Marco Bertschi wrote:

          VET diploma as Software Developer

          So you are capable of healing code monkeys ? What about hamsters ?

          ~RaGE();

          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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          Marco Bertschi
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          VET as in vocational education diploma. :laugh:

          The console is a black place

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            You look after Tamagocis?

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            Marco Bertschi
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            I don't know about you, but I personally prefer to look after girls :laugh:

            The console is a black place

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            • M Marco Bertschi

              .. when I say that I hold a Swiss VET diploma as Software Developer. Yes, I officially graduated, but I still wonder how well known the diploma is abroad. Edit: VET as in "vocation education diploma". Edit2: Federal Vocational Education and Training

              The console is a black place

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              Ray Raymos
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              To have obtained a VET diploma as a Software Developer did you have to take math,science,programming,language arts, social studies, psychology and other subjects in order to obtain the diploma?

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              • M Marco Bertschi

                .. when I say that I hold a Swiss VET diploma as Software Developer. Yes, I officially graduated, but I still wonder how well known the diploma is abroad. Edit: VET as in "vocation education diploma". Edit2: Federal Vocational Education and Training

                The console is a black place

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                Ray Raymos
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                Is it almost the same as getting a Bachelors of Science in Computer Science or a Bachelors of Science in Software Engineering?

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                  Is it almost the same as getting a Bachelors of Science in Computer Science or a Bachelors of Science in Software Engineering?

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                  Marco Bertschi
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                  No, but it certifies you as Software Developer. It's an entry level degree, and most of the Bachelors in CS or SE in Switzerland started with a VET diploma, because they can work part-time as developers during their Bachelor studies.

                  The console is a black place

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                  • M Marco Bertschi

                    I don't know about you, but I personally prefer to look after girls :laugh:

                    The console is a black place

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                    Nagy Vilmos
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                    RFTM -

                    Section 17.II.b(ii):

                    Geeks are forbidden from having a relationship with another living thing. Even Facebook 'friends' are pushing it.

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                    • M Marco Bertschi

                      No, but it certifies you as Software Developer. It's an entry level degree, and most of the Bachelors in CS or SE in Switzerland started with a VET diploma, because they can work part-time as developers during their Bachelor studies.

                      The console is a black place

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                      That sounds nice there are certificates for those fields where I go and I find it annoying for the fact anyone who gets those never find a job. :/ Sadly we must either find an internship while going to school or work another type of job. Congratulations though on getting it! :^) I will be finishing my degree soon and well I already develop many different programs. What about you have you developed anything neat or nifty to where you could sell it on your own?

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                        To have obtained a VET diploma as a Software Developer did you have to take math,science,programming,language arts, social studies, psychology and other subjects in order to obtain the diploma?

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                        Marco Bertschi
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                        It's all depending on the state, but in my case it contained the following fields: - OS Basics (Linux & Windows) - Batch programming - Structured programming (in C) - Object Oriented Programming (C# [WinForms and ASP.Net], Java) - English - Maths - General Education (includes politics, laws) - Boolean Algebrae - Assembler (8 Bit AVR) - Project management basics The ones mentioned above were all the same for every student, plus I got me some individual skills at work: - Hardware Simulation over virtual COM ports - C++ on Qt - Creation of end user trainings, 3rd level support

                        The console is a black place

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                          That sounds nice there are certificates for those fields where I go and I find it annoying for the fact anyone who gets those never find a job. :/ Sadly we must either find an internship while going to school or work another type of job. Congratulations though on getting it! :^) I will be finishing my degree soon and well I already develop many different programs. What about you have you developed anything neat or nifty to where you could sell it on your own?

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                          Ray Raymos wrote:

                          What about you have you developed anything neat or nifty to where you could sell it on your own?

                          No, but I'm currently working on a Syslog implementation on .Net which I will publish on CP once it is finished.

                          The console is a black place

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                          • M Marco Bertschi

                            It's all depending on the state, but in my case it contained the following fields: - OS Basics (Linux & Windows) - Batch programming - Structured programming (in C) - Object Oriented Programming (C# [WinForms and ASP.Net], Java) - English - Maths - General Education (includes politics, laws) - Boolean Algebrae - Assembler (8 Bit AVR) - Project management basics The ones mentioned above were all the same for every student, plus I got me some individual skills at work: - Hardware Simulation over virtual COM ports - C++ on Qt - Creation of end user trainings, 3rd level support

                            The console is a black place

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                            Argonia
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                            Marco Bertschi wrote:

                            - Batch programming

                            Eh?! What?

                            Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                            • M Marco Bertschi

                              Argonia wrote:

                              I wish you the best of luck finding your first real job

                              I already had my first "real job", since my work as Apprentice wasn't cooking coffee but implementing crucial parts of the project, including a Hardware Simulator and the Audit Trail ;)

                              The console is a black place

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                              Argonia
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                              I don't believe Apprentice job is considered a "real job". Just your firm is smart enough to use you for code instead of making you learn the 10 different ways to make coffee.

                              Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                                I don't believe Apprentice job is considered a "real job". Just your firm is smart enough to use you for code instead of making you learn the 10 different ways to make coffee.

                                Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                                Marco Bertschi
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                                It isn't, but the time you spend working is widely considered work experience, if it was work.

                                The console is a black place

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                                  Marco Bertschi wrote:

                                  - Batch programming

                                  Eh?! What?

                                  Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                                  Marco Bertschi
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                                  @echo off
                                  echo Teh Console.

                                  Yeah, script programming would be a better description.

                                  The console is a black place

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    RFTM -

                                    Section 17.II.b(ii):

                                    Geeks are forbidden from having a relationship with another living thing. Even Facebook 'friends' are pushing it.

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                                    RFTM should it be RTFM ?

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      RFTM -

                                      Section 17.II.b(ii):

                                      Geeks are forbidden from having a relationship with another living thing. Even Facebook 'friends' are pushing it.

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                                      I was told cats were OK !!!!! :omg: I've been getting it wrong all these years :doh:

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                                        RFTM should it be RTFM ?

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                                        Nagy Vilmos
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                                        Can't get the staff! :laugh:

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                                        • M Marco Bertschi

                                          @echo off
                                          echo Teh Console.

                                          Yeah, script programming would be a better description.

                                          The console is a black place

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                                          Yeah, script programming would be a better description

                                          ... maybe, but "batch programming" gets you brownie points with this oldie :)

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