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Ah, so it's all about you, is it? I tellya, the egos in this place...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Buddy first off, when someone starts a sentence with I it is indeed about themselves, and secondly this thread is something I started, so when I say I don't care, it isn't an ego trip. What you are doing is being a self righteous ass.
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I did not say the desktop could not have 64 bit apps. I said that the desktop apps could not utilize the 64 bits, windows xp x64 edition, the best it could use was 54 bits. 32 bits can barely utilize 3.2 GB of RAM. 64 bits can handle billions of terabytes. We have yet to have a machine that can handle over 200 GB of ram, and there isn't a desktop app in history that has been able to utilize even those 200 GB. Just to keep the math simple. if 3.2 GB is 32 bit then 6.4 GB is 33 bit, and 12.8 is 34 bit, 25.6 is 35 bit, 51.2 is 36 bit, 102.4 is 37 bit, 204.8 is 38 bit. <---- no desktop app has even gotten here. n The only benefit that the desktop has had from being 64 bit is being able to manage more then 3.2 GB of ram.
Yes, I recall reading this[^] article which discussed the limit in Win64 being 44 bits. So in 64-bit Windows you're not actually getting the full 64-bit address space. You are getting a LOT more than with 32-bits though :) However, none of this has anything to do with desktop vs. metro which was the original discussion. For a given machine running 64-bit Windows 8, 64-bit code running as a desktop app or a metro windows store app will both be subject to the same limitations. The hardware/OS limitations apply equally to both.
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Yes, I recall reading this[^] article which discussed the limit in Win64 being 44 bits. So in 64-bit Windows you're not actually getting the full 64-bit address space. You are getting a LOT more than with 32-bits though :) However, none of this has anything to do with desktop vs. metro which was the original discussion. For a given machine running 64-bit Windows 8, 64-bit code running as a desktop app or a metro windows store app will both be subject to the same limitations. The hardware/OS limitations apply equally to both.
Yeah it does This whole problem is due to the 16 bit offset, the fact that 32 bit was built on top of it and so is 64 bit. Only metro with the .net framework as the substructure which is a paradigm shift from the 16 bit offset; will software advance - therefore the desktop is a piece of shit.
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Yeah it does This whole problem is due to the 16 bit offset, the fact that 32 bit was built on top of it and so is 64 bit. Only metro with the .net framework as the substructure which is a paradigm shift from the 16 bit offset; will software advance - therefore the desktop is a piece of shit.
- You can build metro apps using native C++ code without going through the .net framework 2) You can use the .net framework to create either metro apps or desktop apps 3) Code using the .net framework is subject to the same Win64 address space limitations as any other process running on the machine Whether you like it or not, the desktop isn't going anywhere :)
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- You can build metro apps using native C++ code without going through the .net framework 2) You can use the .net framework to create either metro apps or desktop apps 3) Code using the .net framework is subject to the same Win64 address space limitations as any other process running on the machine Whether you like it or not, the desktop isn't going anywhere :)
- applications use metro and have to use these libraries, use whatever language you want 2) metro is the .net framework as an operating system (not limited by OS), .net framework is an add on to the desktop (limited by OS) 3) in windows 8 the desktop is an application of the metro memory address space. The desktop is a piece of shit.
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- applications use metro and have to use these libraries, use whatever language you want 2) metro is the .net framework as an operating system (not limited by OS), .net framework is an add on to the desktop (limited by OS) 3) in windows 8 the desktop is an application of the metro memory address space. The desktop is a piece of shit.
You're either really confused or I've just been trolled :)
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You're either really confused or I've just been trolled :)
I program Microsoft technologies.
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I program Microsoft technologies.
I think your obvious enthusiasm for metro is great, but I'm not sure you fully get how the pieces go together. I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree :)
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I think your obvious enthusiasm for metro is great, but I'm not sure you fully get how the pieces go together. I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree :)
I am telling you how it works.
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Buddy first off, when someone starts a sentence with I it is indeed about themselves, and secondly this thread is something I started, so when I say I don't care, it isn't an ego trip. What you are doing is being a self righteous ass.
What you are being is an idiot who refuses to see a joke when it smacks him squarely in the face. Your initial comment ("I don't care if you purchase it", in case you've forgotten your ingenious reply) was so pointlessly rude that I didn't bother to reply to it, but instead made fun of the misuse of the word "could" in the incorrect statement of "I could care less", which is used only and exclusively by the set of Americans who are illiterate (do the venn diagram, if you wish to confirm this -- the illiterati in other English-speaking countries say "couldn't"). That joke was of far more value to the forum than your ill-mannered comment ("I don't care if you purchase it", in case you've forgotten it again), because it at least contained good humour, rather than snide arrogance. If, as it seems to be the case, you wish to have an ill-natured argument with someone, take it elsewhere -- CP doesn't need that kind of behaviour, and I'll just take the piss, so you'll just get all indignant and bad-tempered to no purpose.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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What you are being is an idiot who refuses to see a joke when it smacks him squarely in the face. Your initial comment ("I don't care if you purchase it", in case you've forgotten your ingenious reply) was so pointlessly rude that I didn't bother to reply to it, but instead made fun of the misuse of the word "could" in the incorrect statement of "I could care less", which is used only and exclusively by the set of Americans who are illiterate (do the venn diagram, if you wish to confirm this -- the illiterati in other English-speaking countries say "couldn't"). That joke was of far more value to the forum than your ill-mannered comment ("I don't care if you purchase it", in case you've forgotten it again), because it at least contained good humour, rather than snide arrogance. If, as it seems to be the case, you wish to have an ill-natured argument with someone, take it elsewhere -- CP doesn't need that kind of behaviour, and I'll just take the piss, so you'll just get all indignant and bad-tempered to no purpose.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
yeah self rightous
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7 pcs in my office, all with 50 inch screens, and Microsoft Kinect, with touchless gesture software I can stand 6 feet from the screen and use it like a touch screen. The desktop will die and the PC will rein on.
I already see our office ladies with Hulk-like shoulders. What do you do with those 7 kinects? I rarely see someone producing with an touchy-swishy interface. Hypothesis: the amount of desktop use has not become significantly less in absolute terms. It's just faded relative to the skyrocketing general media consumption.
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I already see our office ladies with Hulk-like shoulders. What do you do with those 7 kinects? I rarely see someone producing with an touchy-swishy interface. Hypothesis: the amount of desktop use has not become significantly less in absolute terms. It's just faded relative to the skyrocketing general media consumption.
The Microsoft touchless gesture software is perfect for kinect. The only thing it cant do well is fast typing.