Job Packages
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What constitutes your package, other that actual pay, pension, holidays and health care what other options are there?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
So, I use Excel to make all things equal. If something stands out I add or subtract it in order to balance. For example, if the particular position has a terrible commute, negotiate a higher salary. Same for parking expenses. If the position has free, good lunches, subtract it, etc. Then just compare cash apples to cash apples. So often in the negotiation phase I am presented with the Statement, well you have to consider our great benefits ... I did, and they were lacking. Excel is King.
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What constitutes your package, other that actual pay, pension, holidays and health care what other options are there?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Price off on Public transport comute ticket (If you want it) Parking place at reasonable rent (10 Francs/ month) Working outside of town, so coumuting against traffic Some extra cash for lunch Some others I forgot..
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What constitutes your package, other that actual pay, pension, holidays and health care what other options are there?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Fully covered medical 13% yearly contribution to 401k, not matching yearly bonus 4 weeks vacation standard US holidays plus a week at Christmas Fitness club membership Treadmill desk, and extremely nice offices
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What constitutes your package, other that actual pay, pension, holidays and health care what other options are there?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Talking about our packages is non-KSS.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Talking about our packages is non-KSS.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
I thought that was a bit rude, myself, and I'm not even a kid sister.
Will Rogers never met me.
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What constitutes your package, other that actual pay, pension, holidays and health care what other options are there?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Either pickup/drop cab facility or Parking space Health and life insurance Meal card Mobile phone reimbursement once per year, a two day trip to any nearby resort.
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What constitutes your package, other that actual pay, pension, holidays and health care what other options are there?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Now ive got your attention here's a little story, and I swear every word is true. ive been self employed for over 20 yrs now but the best package I ever had was in the mid 80's - I had a salary increase of 40%, a brand new company car, free petrol for home use as well as business, all the ex's I wanted, and my boss was a boozer who's main concern was that he'd have a drinking partner for most of the week. it was great until he messed up big time coz work wasn't getting done, so the MD put a private eye on him who followed him into a massage parlour and that night a burly guy repossessed his company car and told him not to bother going in again. This reflected badly on me and to cut a story short I didn't grass on him as he was a mate so I got sacked too lol, but after they realised *most* of the issues were of his doing felt bad about it so offered me a large ex-gratia payment and employed me on a self employed basis for about 6 month, meaning I earned more in a week than I did in a month while working there, and I walked into another job soon as I needed to - lovely I even went into one job interview (after being sacked and asked by a competitor who knew my work to see them in london) and post interview in the pub the director who recommended me pointed to his pack of john player special and asked 'did I smoke anything stronger that these'. i've always believed honesty is the best policy so told him that I did, and his reply to that was 'great, when we shut the doors at 6 o clock we all like a toke or two and I didn't want you to be shocked' - you couldn't make it up, but I didn't take the job coz of other reasons. - this was not a 2 bit company and I better not say who btw. I loved the 80's....
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Now ive got your attention here's a little story, and I swear every word is true. ive been self employed for over 20 yrs now but the best package I ever had was in the mid 80's - I had a salary increase of 40%, a brand new company car, free petrol for home use as well as business, all the ex's I wanted, and my boss was a boozer who's main concern was that he'd have a drinking partner for most of the week. it was great until he messed up big time coz work wasn't getting done, so the MD put a private eye on him who followed him into a massage parlour and that night a burly guy repossessed his company car and told him not to bother going in again. This reflected badly on me and to cut a story short I didn't grass on him as he was a mate so I got sacked too lol, but after they realised *most* of the issues were of his doing felt bad about it so offered me a large ex-gratia payment and employed me on a self employed basis for about 6 month, meaning I earned more in a week than I did in a month while working there, and I walked into another job soon as I needed to - lovely I even went into one job interview (after being sacked and asked by a competitor who knew my work to see them in london) and post interview in the pub the director who recommended me pointed to his pack of john player special and asked 'did I smoke anything stronger that these'. i've always believed honesty is the best policy so told him that I did, and his reply to that was 'great, when we shut the doors at 6 o clock we all like a toke or two and I didn't want you to be shocked' - you couldn't make it up, but I didn't take the job coz of other reasons. - this was not a 2 bit company and I better not say who btw. I loved the 80's....
that's one up on me, I don't remember the 80s (well most of it)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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One or two of the customers, I was tempted myself! One of my great pleasures was being able to shoot a certain female customer (who knew nothing about her job) directly in the stomach from about three feet. Bruised? Oh yes...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
OriginalGriff wrote:
One of my great pleasures was being able to shoot a certain female customer (who knew nothing about her job) directly in the stomach from about three feet.
Let's keep it holy now... :)
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What constitutes your package, other that actual pay, pension, holidays and health care what other options are there?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Commute: 5 minutes in rush hour traffic (live 2 miles from job) WorkPlace: Flexible. Have to be in office or available during core working hours. Also have a work remote policy Dress: Casual Food/Drink: Cafeteria on site, a ton of places to get food nearby, Free Coffee/Tea/Cocoa Holidays and vacations Bonuses Work outings (picnics, baseball games, bowling, etc.)
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What constitutes your package, other that actual pay, pension, holidays and health care what other options are there?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Noticed your timestamp. Having a hard time sleeping? From what I'm seeing , it depends on how much they want and what they are willing to pay for you. At my ex job, a year and a half ago, they had two type of hires: The craigslist folks.. which usually did most of the heavy pulling. For us craigslist folks, we had a low paycheck ( startup.. ), 2 weeks PTO, basic healthcare after the first 6 months, and a basic 401k after the 1st year of being with them. And the primadonas: The owners wanted to sell the company but they thought it wasn't appealing to investors since the driving force mostly had an unknown background. Thus they went to various prestigious universities to gather "talent". So for these straight off the college benches the job offer looked like: 1. Fly in business to NYC for interview with stay at a high class hotel in downtown manhan. 2. Relocation package: 1st month hotel paid by the company, 2 months worth of your pay as a signup bonus. 3. Close to 40% more on signup than the craigslist crowd. 4. Team lead, key position. 5. Holiday bonuses. 6. 401k after 6 months of work, immediate healthcare. 7. Conferences, paid training, etc. Got all these at a holiday party when people open their hearths and share knowledge.. And then I quit. At my new job I got: 1. relocation bonus. 2. 15 days of PTO first year, 22 days of PTO second year. 3. Immediate full healthcare + dental, 401k after the 6 first months. 4. They have good food perks, unlimited coffee, soda, snacks, sweets, and a fridge full of icecream. Periodically they bring in pizza, bagels, fruit. 5. Paid paternity/ maternity leave for close to half a year.. but I'm not at that age yet.. lol.. Neither companies put too much value on actual office presence. And both have "flexible hours". Wish they would have paid for classes, and extra training but they don't. Point is, if you have the chip to bargain, stretch it as much as you can. If they offer low pay ask for more PTO to balance it out, for example. And don't get attached to them, cause from what I learned, the last people to leave a company when things go south are the owners and the marketing people, in contrast to what one might think, us programmers are among the first to be laid off.
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Noticed your timestamp. Having a hard time sleeping? From what I'm seeing , it depends on how much they want and what they are willing to pay for you. At my ex job, a year and a half ago, they had two type of hires: The craigslist folks.. which usually did most of the heavy pulling. For us craigslist folks, we had a low paycheck ( startup.. ), 2 weeks PTO, basic healthcare after the first 6 months, and a basic 401k after the 1st year of being with them. And the primadonas: The owners wanted to sell the company but they thought it wasn't appealing to investors since the driving force mostly had an unknown background. Thus they went to various prestigious universities to gather "talent". So for these straight off the college benches the job offer looked like: 1. Fly in business to NYC for interview with stay at a high class hotel in downtown manhan. 2. Relocation package: 1st month hotel paid by the company, 2 months worth of your pay as a signup bonus. 3. Close to 40% more on signup than the craigslist crowd. 4. Team lead, key position. 5. Holiday bonuses. 6. 401k after 6 months of work, immediate healthcare. 7. Conferences, paid training, etc. Got all these at a holiday party when people open their hearths and share knowledge.. And then I quit. At my new job I got: 1. relocation bonus. 2. 15 days of PTO first year, 22 days of PTO second year. 3. Immediate full healthcare + dental, 401k after the 6 first months. 4. They have good food perks, unlimited coffee, soda, snacks, sweets, and a fridge full of icecream. Periodically they bring in pizza, bagels, fruit. 5. Paid paternity/ maternity leave for close to half a year.. but I'm not at that age yet.. lol.. Neither companies put too much value on actual office presence. And both have "flexible hours". Wish they would have paid for classes, and extra training but they don't. Point is, if you have the chip to bargain, stretch it as much as you can. If they offer low pay ask for more PTO to balance it out, for example. And don't get attached to them, cause from what I learned, the last people to leave a company when things go south are the owners and the marketing people, in contrast to what one might think, us programmers are among the first to be laid off.
it was late morning, I don't live in the colonies (or you were posting late at night)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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it was late morning, I don't live in the colonies (or you were posting late at night)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
Lol.. since it's a job + benefit question, I immediately assumed you're "from the colonies", where meritorious rights are an every day topic in the american way of life.. or so it seams. Hope you're doing better from the last post.
