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Thousands to lose their jobs as Microsoft prepares biggest ever round of layoffs

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  • M Master Man1980

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    increasing savings

    But not laying off.

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    When I make breakfast in the morning, I take the easy route and that involves a microwave and something from the freezer. I am sure that CEO's choose the easiest path to the goal not the hardest ... mostly.

    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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    • M Master Man1980

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      one of those being laid-off

      I don't work for MS.

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      this is actually very good

      I think u r one of those getting the money.

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      Lost User
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      Master.Man1980 wrote:

      I think u r one of those getting the money.

      Nope. I've never owned MSFT stock (unless it was grouped into a mutual fund :~ ).

      Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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      • M Master Man1980

        If MS can't make money, this is how trying to save money or ? :^) http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-lose-jobs-microsoft-prepares-biggest-ever-round-114013833.html[^] This is very bad.

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Typical post-takeover layoffs. It's probably the bulk of the Nokia developers. MS doesn't need them, it's got lots of its own.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        • M Master Man1980

          If MS can't make money, this is how trying to save money or ? :^) http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-lose-jobs-microsoft-prepares-biggest-ever-round-114013833.html[^] This is very bad.

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          OriginalGriff
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          Hopefully, it'll be the team that designed Windows 8 and the Ribbon... Bet it isn't, though...

          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Hopefully, it'll be the team that designed Windows 8 and the Ribbon... Bet it isn't, though...

            Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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            Roger Wright
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            More likely it will be all those who still think a keyboard is a handy device. :sigh:

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            • M Master Man1980

              If MS can't make money, this is how trying to save money or ? :^) http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-lose-jobs-microsoft-prepares-biggest-ever-round-114013833.html[^] This is very bad.

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              Lost User
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              It is well known that employees are the cause of all trouble. Getting rid of them will therefore solve everything.

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              • M Master Man1980

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                one of those being laid-off

                I don't work for MS.

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                this is actually very good

                I think u r one of those getting the money.

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                jeron1
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                Perhaps they're laying off only those that use text speak.

                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst

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                • M Master Man1980

                  If MS can't make money, this is how trying to save money or ? :^) http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-lose-jobs-microsoft-prepares-biggest-ever-round-114013833.html[^] This is very bad.

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                  thrakazog
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                  Well hopefully they start with everyone involved in bundling the kinect with the new xbox.

                  Play my game Gravity: Android[^], Windows Phone 7[^]

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                  • L Lost User

                    It is well known that employees are the cause of all trouble. Getting rid of them will therefore solve everything.

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                    Master Man1980
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                    We talking about thousands ^\d{4,}$

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                    ... employees are the cause of all trouble...

                    Is MS juvenile correction center? :-\

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      When I make breakfast in the morning, I take the easy route and that involves a microwave and something from the freezer. I am sure that CEO's choose the easiest path to the goal not the hardest ... mostly.

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                      Lost User
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                      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                      microwave and something from the freezer.

                      I'll take a move to Vancouver Canada and a side of no TMG-UAG with that. ...but they will have to get below 49 so as to not pay the ACA tax? :)

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                      • M Master Man1980

                        If MS can't make money, this is how trying to save money or ? :^) http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-lose-jobs-microsoft-prepares-biggest-ever-round-114013833.html[^] This is very bad.

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                        Fabio Franco
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                        Company acquisitions always lead to lay offs, that's not news, unfortunately. Business always overlap in areas and cuts need to be made. The problem in this case is that we are talking about the merging of two huge companies, that lead to scary layoff numbers. But if you look closer, 5k lay offs out of 90k nokia employees isn't that big of a percentage.

                        To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                        • F Fabio Franco

                          Company acquisitions always lead to lay offs, that's not news, unfortunately. Business always overlap in areas and cuts need to be made. The problem in this case is that we are talking about the merging of two huge companies, that lead to scary layoff numbers. But if you look closer, 5k lay offs out of 90k nokia employees isn't that big of a percentage.

                          To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                          9082365
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                          Unless you happen to be one of the 5k! A 100% chance of being without a job is not fun for anyone and glossing over it with the 'small percentage' argument is disingenuous at best, cruelly cynical at worst!

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                            Unless you happen to be one of the 5k! A 100% chance of being without a job is not fun for anyone and glossing over it with the 'small percentage' argument is disingenuous at best, cruelly cynical at worst!

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                            Fabio Franco
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                            I'm not saying it is fun, or it is good, just it is expected. I've seen much worse cases (percentage wise) with people I worked with.

                            To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                            • M Master Man1980

                              If MS can't make money, this is how trying to save money or ? :^) http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-lose-jobs-microsoft-prepares-biggest-ever-round-114013833.html[^] This is very bad.

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                              Nicolas Dorier
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                              A good thing. The only company that is can survive despite economic failure and over staffing is Government Inc, the others need to adapt.

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                              • M Master Man1980

                                If MS can't make money, this is how trying to save money or ? :^) http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-lose-jobs-microsoft-prepares-biggest-ever-round-114013833.html[^] This is very bad.

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                                BrainiacV
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                                I heard Microsoft wants to change their corporate culture and the easiet way to do that is to get rid of a bunch of workers to scare the rest into changing their ways. It will work for a while, but the old culture will reassert itself. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

                                Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                                • M Master Man1980

                                  If MS can't make money, this is how trying to save money or ? :^) http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-lose-jobs-microsoft-prepares-biggest-ever-round-114013833.html[^] This is very bad.

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                                  RafagaX
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                                  Expected post-merge layoffs, it's really bad but, unfortunately, that's the way of doing business; in the bright side, they may try to join the Jolla team and improve their OS.

                                  CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                                    Master.Man1980 wrote:

                                    This is very bad.

                                    Meh! Unless you are one of those being laid-off - this is actually very good. Microsoft (today) is too big, too slow and too set in their ways. According to insiders politics between divisions often stalls or kills good ideas. In hindsight, it probably would have been better for end-users, stock-holders and employees if Microsoft would have been split up decades ago during the DOJ anti-trust case.

                                    Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                                    dactan
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                                    I think MS too big. That's the same Windows or office. Next version's alway bigger and slower version before. I think MS only add more to next version. I don't know how to jobs of other like HR, environment, worker. Are they going to lose job?

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                                    • F Fabio Franco

                                      Company acquisitions always lead to lay offs, that's not news, unfortunately. Business always overlap in areas and cuts need to be made. The problem in this case is that we are talking about the merging of two huge companies, that lead to scary layoff numbers. But if you look closer, 5k lay offs out of 90k nokia employees isn't that big of a percentage.

                                      To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia

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                                      dactan
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                                      How to happen in VietNam. Will Some people lose job?

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                                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                        CEO's only get pay raises by increasing savings. For a CEO to get 10 million raise, 100 million needs to be made.

                                        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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                                        Josh_T
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                                        CEO bonuses are generally tied to profits, not savings. And no, they aren't the same thing.

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                                          CEO bonuses are generally tied to profits, not savings. And no, they aren't the same thing.

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                                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                          EBITDA is a major contributor to CEO bonuses and is written into many CEO contracts. Also, lower expenses yields higher margins which has a positive correlation to stock price, which also is a portion of CEO compensation. No CEO worth his weight would take a contract driven solely on profits. That is too easy to lose. No, stock performance is a good one, EBITDA another, but not profits. Owner pay is driven by profits.

                                          Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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