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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

    It's an OO world.

    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
    {
    public void DoWork()
    {
    throw new NotSupportedException();
    }
    }

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    Mark_Wallace
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    I still use Opera for work-related stuff, but refuse to update past version 12, because they stripped out most of the really useful stuff (e.g. sessions), in a very "Let's go Metro!" way. Maxthon[^] has turned into a belter for personal use. It's very quick, and not just cross-platform, it's cross-machine. i.e. I can send pages to my other computers, and open pages that are open on my other computers -- that includes work computers, if the browser's installed. e.g. if you come across a page that would be handy at work, you can either just send it there (it will open in the browser automatically, next time it is opened), or leave it open on your home machine and pick it up (and yes, you can send to/from phones and tablets, too). I don't know if other browsers have picked up that idea, yet, but Maxthon's had it for quite a while.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      I think you're plugged out... That's the worst advice ever. I call -1,057,731 rep points!

      It's an OO world.

      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
      {
      public void DoWork()
      {
      throw new NotSupportedException();
      }
      }

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      OriginalGriff
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      #12

      Sander Rossel wrote:

      That's the worst advice ever

      I got it from QA! :laugh:

      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        The only problem I had with Windows was that IE wouldn't work. The only problem I had with IE was that Silverlight wouldn't work. Allright, I had a lot more problems with both, but these are pretty stupid ;p YouTube is also owned by Google by the way. And it's the only problem I have in Chrome... Dammit software giants, get your own software running straight!

        It's an OO world.

        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
        {
        public void DoWork()
        {
        throw new NotSupportedException();
        }
        }

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        ZurdoDev
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        #13

        Sander Rossel wrote:

        YouTube is also owned by Google by the way.

        Exactly my point. ;)

        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Lynx?

          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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          Sander Rossel
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          Didn't know it. Looked it up. This may well be my new browser! :D

          It's an OO world.

          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
          {
          public void DoWork()
          {
          throw new NotSupportedException();
          }
          }

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

            It's an OO world.

            public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
            {
            public void DoWork()
            {
            throw new NotSupportedException();
            }
            }

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            Florian Rappl
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            #15

            If you want a chromium based browser then use Torch (if you watch a lot of media, e.g. on YouTube) or the new Opera. If you want a non-chromium browser then go for IE (if Windows only) or Firefox (if mixed OS). Nowadays they're pretty much all good, but every browser has a quite strong side and a weak point.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              I find Opera rather klunky and poor performing. Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me. Marc

              Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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              Sander Rossel
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              Marc Clifton wrote:

              klunky and poor performing

              Opera is saying they are the exact opposite!

              Marc Clifton wrote:

              the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript

              It's indeed the sh*t! :D I heard gangmembers now use it as a way to identify themselves and their gang. They can switch gangs by simply adjusting their CSS.

              It's an OO world.

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
              {
              public void DoWork()
              {
              throw new NotSupportedException();
              }
              }

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              • M Mark_Wallace

                I still use Opera for work-related stuff, but refuse to update past version 12, because they stripped out most of the really useful stuff (e.g. sessions), in a very "Let's go Metro!" way. Maxthon[^] has turned into a belter for personal use. It's very quick, and not just cross-platform, it's cross-machine. i.e. I can send pages to my other computers, and open pages that are open on my other computers -- that includes work computers, if the browser's installed. e.g. if you come across a page that would be handy at work, you can either just send it there (it will open in the browser automatically, next time it is opened), or leave it open on your home machine and pick it up (and yes, you can send to/from phones and tablets, too). I don't know if other browsers have picked up that idea, yet, but Maxthon's had it for quite a while.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                OriginalGriff
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                #17

                I use Message Beam[^] for that - it supports both URLs and short messages between my PC and tablet, which is very handy. Should work between two PC's, but I haven't tried it. Since I run Chrome on both the PC and Nexus they "share" bookmarks and so forth - most of the time, updates from the tablet don't always seem to make it to the PC but PC ones always seem to get there eventually.

                Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  I still use Opera for work-related stuff, but refuse to update past version 12, because they stripped out most of the really useful stuff (e.g. sessions), in a very "Let's go Metro!" way. Maxthon[^] has turned into a belter for personal use. It's very quick, and not just cross-platform, it's cross-machine. i.e. I can send pages to my other computers, and open pages that are open on my other computers -- that includes work computers, if the browser's installed. e.g. if you come across a page that would be handy at work, you can either just send it there (it will open in the browser automatically, next time it is opened), or leave it open on your home machine and pick it up (and yes, you can send to/from phones and tablets, too). I don't know if other browsers have picked up that idea, yet, but Maxthon's had it for quite a while.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Sander Rossel
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  I don't think I'm ready for Maxthon yet. I cling to the good old single desktop PC for as long as I can :D

                  It's an OO world.

                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                  {
                  public void DoWork()
                  {
                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                  }
                  }

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    klunky and poor performing

                    Opera is saying they are the exact opposite!

                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript

                    It's indeed the sh*t! :D I heard gangmembers now use it as a way to identify themselves and their gang. They can switch gangs by simply adjusting their CSS.

                    It's an OO world.

                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                    {
                    public void DoWork()
                    {
                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                    }
                    }

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    #19

                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    Opera is saying they are the exact opposite!

                    Don't they all. :)

                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    They can switch gangs by simply adjusting their CSS.

                    :laugh: Marc

                    Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                    • J Jacquers

                      I used to use Chrome as my main browser, but it's a bit of a memory hog. Tried Firefox, but its quite cpu heavy when opening multiple pages and doesn't multi thread as well - pages lag while other load. I use Displayfusion and one of the functions it gives is to use middle click to move a maximized window to another screen on dual monitor setups. In FF this opens a new tab... annoying. Now I'm using Opera. It seems to do better with memory use than Chrome. It has some nice features and it actually uses the same engine (Blink - the fork of Webkit) as Chrome, so a lot of things will be similar to Chrome, although it doesn't have everything Chrome has, but has some nice features of it's own. The speed dial and stash works well - I don't really use bookmarks. The only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it also moves it to the other screen (Displayfusion feature), which Chrome doesn't do, so I'm still getting used to closing tabs using the x.

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                      Sander Rossel
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      Jacquers wrote:

                      middle clicking on the tab to close it

                      I middle click to open tabs... Always use the x for closing them.

                      It's an OO world.

                      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                      {
                      public void DoWork()
                      {
                      throw new NotSupportedException();
                      }
                      }

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        I use Message Beam[^] for that - it supports both URLs and short messages between my PC and tablet, which is very handy. Should work between two PC's, but I haven't tried it. Since I run Chrome on both the PC and Nexus they "share" bookmarks and so forth - most of the time, updates from the tablet don't always seem to make it to the PC but PC ones always seem to get there eventually.

                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        That sounds like Maxie's "Sky Note" plug-in. This is a tad simpler, in that I can just right-click on a blank bit of a web page, select "Cloud push to...", and choose which other device to open the page in. I like simplicity; it's good for my brain.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                          It's an OO world.

                          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                          {
                          public void DoWork()
                          {
                          throw new NotSupportedException();
                          }
                          }

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                          newton saber
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                          I used Opera on Win 7 desktop about 2 years ago. Then I started doing dev and started using Chrome, because the F12 tools are quite helpful. I was just considering going back to Opera to try it out again. Two years ago there was a strange bug where Opera would double-post to facebook. The user (me) didn't know. very odd stuff. Anyway, that's all fixed. I'm going to try Opera again too. It's quite fast itself at DOM rendering etc.

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            I find Opera rather klunky and poor performing. Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me. Marc

                            Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            Marc Clifton wrote:

                            Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me.

                            I'm at least glad we have semi-decent JavaScript debugging now. Things used to be worse.

                            Jeremy Falcon

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                              It's an OO world.

                              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                              {
                              public void DoWork()
                              {
                              throw new NotSupportedException();
                              }
                              }

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                              Richard Deeming
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                              How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                Sander Rossel
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #25

                                Richard Deeming wrote:

                                If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself!

                                You're assuming I know JavaScript ;) I know a bit, but not far enough to actually code anything useful in it though ;p

                                It's an OO world.

                                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                {
                                public void DoWork()
                                {
                                throw new NotSupportedException();
                                }
                                }

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                                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                  How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  Their advertising banner runs off the side of the page (well, it's javascript; what do you expect?). If you view the page source, it reads: FREE --- MODULAR --- HACKABLE --- BUGGY --- SLOW AS ****

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                    How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                    Dennis E White
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                                    that is of course you are willing to accept that you are still using parts of Chrome. :-D

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                                    • J Jacquers

                                      I used to use Chrome as my main browser, but it's a bit of a memory hog. Tried Firefox, but its quite cpu heavy when opening multiple pages and doesn't multi thread as well - pages lag while other load. I use Displayfusion and one of the functions it gives is to use middle click to move a maximized window to another screen on dual monitor setups. In FF this opens a new tab... annoying. Now I'm using Opera. It seems to do better with memory use than Chrome. It has some nice features and it actually uses the same engine (Blink - the fork of Webkit) as Chrome, so a lot of things will be similar to Chrome, although it doesn't have everything Chrome has, but has some nice features of it's own. The speed dial and stash works well - I don't really use bookmarks. The only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it also moves it to the other screen (Displayfusion feature), which Chrome doesn't do, so I'm still getting used to closing tabs using the x.

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                                      David ONeil
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                                      Jacquers wrote:

                                      he only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it

                                      Have you used the 'down and right' mouse gesture with the right button clicked? It might be a solution you like, although you could have to enable gestures in the settings.

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        I find Opera rather klunky and poor performing. Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me. Marc

                                        Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me

                                        :laugh:

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                          How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                          Brisingr Aerowing
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                                          My first question is WHY?!?!

                                          What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?

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