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  • M Marc Clifton

    I find Opera rather klunky and poor performing. Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me. Marc

    Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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    Sander Rossel
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    #16

    Marc Clifton wrote:

    klunky and poor performing

    Opera is saying they are the exact opposite!

    Marc Clifton wrote:

    the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript

    It's indeed the sh*t! :D I heard gangmembers now use it as a way to identify themselves and their gang. They can switch gangs by simply adjusting their CSS.

    It's an OO world.

    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
    {
    public void DoWork()
    {
    throw new NotSupportedException();
    }
    }

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      I still use Opera for work-related stuff, but refuse to update past version 12, because they stripped out most of the really useful stuff (e.g. sessions), in a very "Let's go Metro!" way. Maxthon[^] has turned into a belter for personal use. It's very quick, and not just cross-platform, it's cross-machine. i.e. I can send pages to my other computers, and open pages that are open on my other computers -- that includes work computers, if the browser's installed. e.g. if you come across a page that would be handy at work, you can either just send it there (it will open in the browser automatically, next time it is opened), or leave it open on your home machine and pick it up (and yes, you can send to/from phones and tablets, too). I don't know if other browsers have picked up that idea, yet, but Maxthon's had it for quite a while.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      OriginalGriff
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      I use Message Beam[^] for that - it supports both URLs and short messages between my PC and tablet, which is very handy. Should work between two PC's, but I haven't tried it. Since I run Chrome on both the PC and Nexus they "share" bookmarks and so forth - most of the time, updates from the tablet don't always seem to make it to the PC but PC ones always seem to get there eventually.

      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        I still use Opera for work-related stuff, but refuse to update past version 12, because they stripped out most of the really useful stuff (e.g. sessions), in a very "Let's go Metro!" way. Maxthon[^] has turned into a belter for personal use. It's very quick, and not just cross-platform, it's cross-machine. i.e. I can send pages to my other computers, and open pages that are open on my other computers -- that includes work computers, if the browser's installed. e.g. if you come across a page that would be handy at work, you can either just send it there (it will open in the browser automatically, next time it is opened), or leave it open on your home machine and pick it up (and yes, you can send to/from phones and tablets, too). I don't know if other browsers have picked up that idea, yet, but Maxthon's had it for quite a while.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Sander Rossel
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        #18

        I don't think I'm ready for Maxthon yet. I cling to the good old single desktop PC for as long as I can :D

        It's an OO world.

        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
        {
        public void DoWork()
        {
        throw new NotSupportedException();
        }
        }

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          Marc Clifton wrote:

          klunky and poor performing

          Opera is saying they are the exact opposite!

          Marc Clifton wrote:

          the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript

          It's indeed the sh*t! :D I heard gangmembers now use it as a way to identify themselves and their gang. They can switch gangs by simply adjusting their CSS.

          It's an OO world.

          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
          {
          public void DoWork()
          {
          throw new NotSupportedException();
          }
          }

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          Marc Clifton
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          Sander Rossel wrote:

          Opera is saying they are the exact opposite!

          Don't they all. :)

          Sander Rossel wrote:

          They can switch gangs by simply adjusting their CSS.

          :laugh: Marc

          Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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          • J Jacquers

            I used to use Chrome as my main browser, but it's a bit of a memory hog. Tried Firefox, but its quite cpu heavy when opening multiple pages and doesn't multi thread as well - pages lag while other load. I use Displayfusion and one of the functions it gives is to use middle click to move a maximized window to another screen on dual monitor setups. In FF this opens a new tab... annoying. Now I'm using Opera. It seems to do better with memory use than Chrome. It has some nice features and it actually uses the same engine (Blink - the fork of Webkit) as Chrome, so a lot of things will be similar to Chrome, although it doesn't have everything Chrome has, but has some nice features of it's own. The speed dial and stash works well - I don't really use bookmarks. The only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it also moves it to the other screen (Displayfusion feature), which Chrome doesn't do, so I'm still getting used to closing tabs using the x.

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            Sander Rossel
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            Jacquers wrote:

            middle clicking on the tab to close it

            I middle click to open tabs... Always use the x for closing them.

            It's an OO world.

            public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
            {
            public void DoWork()
            {
            throw new NotSupportedException();
            }
            }

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              I use Message Beam[^] for that - it supports both URLs and short messages between my PC and tablet, which is very handy. Should work between two PC's, but I haven't tried it. Since I run Chrome on both the PC and Nexus they "share" bookmarks and so forth - most of the time, updates from the tablet don't always seem to make it to the PC but PC ones always seem to get there eventually.

              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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              Mark_Wallace
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              That sounds like Maxie's "Sky Note" plug-in. This is a tad simpler, in that I can just right-click on a blank bit of a web page, select "Cloud push to...", and choose which other device to open the page in. I like simplicity; it's good for my brain.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                It's an OO world.

                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                {
                public void DoWork()
                {
                throw new NotSupportedException();
                }
                }

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                newton saber
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                I used Opera on Win 7 desktop about 2 years ago. Then I started doing dev and started using Chrome, because the F12 tools are quite helpful. I was just considering going back to Opera to try it out again. Two years ago there was a strange bug where Opera would double-post to facebook. The user (me) didn't know. very odd stuff. Anyway, that's all fixed. I'm going to try Opera again too. It's quite fast itself at DOM rendering etc.

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  I find Opera rather klunky and poor performing. Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me. Marc

                  Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me.

                  I'm at least glad we have semi-decent JavaScript debugging now. Things used to be worse.

                  Jeremy Falcon

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                    It's an OO world.

                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                    {
                    public void DoWork()
                    {
                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                    }
                    }

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                    Richard Deeming
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                    #24

                    How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                      How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      #25

                      Richard Deeming wrote:

                      If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself!

                      You're assuming I know JavaScript ;) I know a bit, but not far enough to actually code anything useful in it though ;p

                      It's an OO world.

                      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                      {
                      public void DoWork()
                      {
                      throw new NotSupportedException();
                      }
                      }

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                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                        How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        #26

                        Their advertising banner runs off the side of the page (well, it's javascript; what do you expect?). If you view the page source, it reads: FREE --- MODULAR --- HACKABLE --- BUGGY --- SLOW AS ****

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                          Dennis E White
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                          that is of course you are willing to accept that you are still using parts of Chrome. :-D

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                          • J Jacquers

                            I used to use Chrome as my main browser, but it's a bit of a memory hog. Tried Firefox, but its quite cpu heavy when opening multiple pages and doesn't multi thread as well - pages lag while other load. I use Displayfusion and one of the functions it gives is to use middle click to move a maximized window to another screen on dual monitor setups. In FF this opens a new tab... annoying. Now I'm using Opera. It seems to do better with memory use than Chrome. It has some nice features and it actually uses the same engine (Blink - the fork of Webkit) as Chrome, so a lot of things will be similar to Chrome, although it doesn't have everything Chrome has, but has some nice features of it's own. The speed dial and stash works well - I don't really use bookmarks. The only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it also moves it to the other screen (Displayfusion feature), which Chrome doesn't do, so I'm still getting used to closing tabs using the x.

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                            David ONeil
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                            Jacquers wrote:

                            he only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it

                            Have you used the 'down and right' mouse gesture with the right button clicked? It might be a solution you like, although you could have to enable gestures in the settings.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              I find Opera rather klunky and poor performing. Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me. Marc

                              Latest Articles - APOD Scraper and Hunt the Wumpus Short video on Membrane Computing Hunt the Wumpus (A HOPE video)

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me

                              :laugh:

                              Regards, Nish


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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                Brisingr Aerowing
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                                My first question is WHY?!?!

                                What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                                  It's an OO world.

                                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                  {
                                  public void DoWork()
                                  {
                                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                                  }
                                  }

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                                  DaveX86
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                                  When I can't use IE for incompatibility reasons, I use Pale Moon[^] ...it's a clone of FireFox optimized for PC/Windows. All the FireFox plugins work with it too including FireBug. I agree with the poster above though...that anything that can render the dog's breakfast that is HTML/CSS/JavaScript is miraculous and the browser developers don't get much love or credit for it...

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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                                    It's an OO world.

                                    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                    {
                                    public void DoWork()
                                    {
                                    throw new NotSupportedException();
                                    }
                                    }

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                                    Wonde Tadesse
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                                    You already mentions some of the pros and cons. You might try one of those almost 80 listed of browsers[^]. I never tried except few of them.

                                    Wonde Tadesse

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                                    • D David ONeil

                                      Jacquers wrote:

                                      he only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it

                                      Have you used the 'down and right' mouse gesture with the right button clicked? It might be a solution you like, although you could have to enable gestures in the settings.

                                      My CodeProject Articles :: Our forgotten astronomic heritage :: My website.

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                                      Jacquers
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                                      Didn't know about that, thx. Tried it, but I will need some practice to get it right.

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                                        It's an OO world.

                                        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                        {
                                        public void DoWork()
                                        {
                                        throw new NotSupportedException();
                                        }
                                        }

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                                        piyush_singh
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                                        Opera consumes lots of memory compared to firefox when you're working with many tabs. That's the one issue I have with them. Apart from that it's like any other browser. It's app store isn't as big as that of Chrome or FireFox. What I most liked about Opera was it bit torrent, which helped to pause/resume a download, which works even for a network drop. I think Chrome also offer this nowadays. Anyways, its not bad, I am using it on both my work environments, Win7 & Ubuntu 12.04 and its nice...

                                        Piyush K Singh

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                                          That's the worst advice ever

                                          I got it from QA! :laugh:

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                                          Johnny J
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                                          Well, you should know better than trust a mad Russian... :laugh:

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