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  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

    How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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    Sander Rossel
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    Richard Deeming wrote:

    If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself!

    You're assuming I know JavaScript ;) I know a bit, but not far enough to actually code anything useful in it though ;p

    It's an OO world.

    public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
    {
    public void DoWork()
    {
    throw new NotSupportedException();
    }
    }

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    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

      How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Their advertising banner runs off the side of the page (well, it's javascript; what do you expect?). If you view the page source, it reads: FREE --- MODULAR --- HACKABLE --- BUGGY --- SLOW AS ****

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        Dennis E White
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        that is of course you are willing to accept that you are still using parts of Chrome. :-D

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        • J Jacquers

          I used to use Chrome as my main browser, but it's a bit of a memory hog. Tried Firefox, but its quite cpu heavy when opening multiple pages and doesn't multi thread as well - pages lag while other load. I use Displayfusion and one of the functions it gives is to use middle click to move a maximized window to another screen on dual monitor setups. In FF this opens a new tab... annoying. Now I'm using Opera. It seems to do better with memory use than Chrome. It has some nice features and it actually uses the same engine (Blink - the fork of Webkit) as Chrome, so a lot of things will be similar to Chrome, although it doesn't have everything Chrome has, but has some nice features of it's own. The speed dial and stash works well - I don't really use bookmarks. The only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it also moves it to the other screen (Displayfusion feature), which Chrome doesn't do, so I'm still getting used to closing tabs using the x.

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          David ONeil
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          Jacquers wrote:

          he only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it

          Have you used the 'down and right' mouse gesture with the right button clicked? It might be a solution you like, although you could have to enable gestures in the settings.

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          • M Marc Clifton

            I find Opera rather klunky and poor performing. Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me. Marc

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            Nish Nishant
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Then again, the fact that anything can render the sh*t that is HTML/CSS/Javascript pretty much amazes me

            :laugh:

            Regards, Nish


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            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

              How about a browser written entirely in Javascript[^]? If it goes wrong, you can fix it yourself! ;P


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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              Brisingr Aerowing
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              My first question is WHY?!?!

              What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                It's an OO world.

                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                {
                public void DoWork()
                {
                throw new NotSupportedException();
                }
                }

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                DaveX86
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                When I can't use IE for incompatibility reasons, I use Pale Moon[^] ...it's a clone of FireFox optimized for PC/Windows. All the FireFox plugins work with it too including FireBug. I agree with the poster above though...that anything that can render the dog's breakfast that is HTML/CSS/JavaScript is miraculous and the browser developers don't get much love or credit for it...

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                  It's an OO world.

                  public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                  {
                  public void DoWork()
                  {
                  throw new NotSupportedException();
                  }
                  }

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                  Wonde Tadesse
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                  You already mentions some of the pros and cons. You might try one of those almost 80 listed of browsers[^]. I never tried except few of them.

                  Wonde Tadesse

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                  • D David ONeil

                    Jacquers wrote:

                    he only major annoyance is that middle clicking on the tab to close it

                    Have you used the 'down and right' mouse gesture with the right button clicked? It might be a solution you like, although you could have to enable gestures in the settings.

                    My CodeProject Articles :: Our forgotten astronomic heritage :: My website.

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                    Jacquers
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                    Didn't know about that, thx. Tried it, but I will need some practice to get it right.

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                      It's an OO world.

                      public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                      {
                      public void DoWork()
                      {
                      throw new NotSupportedException();
                      }
                      }

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                      piyush_singh
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                      Opera consumes lots of memory compared to firefox when you're working with many tabs. That's the one issue I have with them. Apart from that it's like any other browser. It's app store isn't as big as that of Chrome or FireFox. What I most liked about Opera was it bit torrent, which helped to pause/resume a download, which works even for a network drop. I think Chrome also offer this nowadays. Anyways, its not bad, I am using it on both my work environments, Win7 & Ubuntu 12.04 and its nice...

                      Piyush K Singh

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        That's the worst advice ever

                        I got it from QA! :laugh:

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                        Johnny J
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                        Well, you should know better than trust a mad Russian... :laugh:

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          The only problem I had with Windows was that IE wouldn't work. The only problem I had with IE was that Silverlight wouldn't work. Allright, I had a lot more problems with both, but these are pretty stupid ;p YouTube is also owned by Google by the way. And it's the only problem I have in Chrome... Dammit software giants, get your own software running straight!

                          It's an OO world.

                          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                          {
                          public void DoWork()
                          {
                          throw new NotSupportedException();
                          }
                          }

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                          Lost User
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                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          The only problem I had with Windows was that IE wouldn't work.
                          The only problem I had with IE was that Silverlight wouldn't work.

                          I had a problem where IE11 was the only browser that wouldn't support Microsoft Outlook Web Access from Exchange 2010 out of the box. Chrome, Firefox and Safari all supported it. Seems like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing at Microsoft these days. By the way, Safari on OSX works really well, much better than Chrome or Firefox in my opinion :)

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            I don't think I'm ready for Maxthon yet. I cling to the good old single desktop PC for as long as I can :D

                            It's an OO world.

                            public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                            {
                            public void DoWork()
                            {
                            throw new NotSupportedException();
                            }
                            }

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                            SortaCore
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                            Maxthon 2 used to run off the IE ActiveX. Got much better performance than IE itself. Plus the number of (fast and useful) extensions... It was my previous browser before they discontinued it for Maxthon 3, which I couldn't get into, and so moved to Chrome instead. FTR, never had problem with YouTub. You can always opt into/out of the HTML5 beta for Youtube, since it's mostly designed for Chrome. Seems like it's no longer in beta, or opty.[^] I use it with Adblocker Plus and Ghostery extensions though. So that might get rid of buggy code as a side-effect.

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                              It's an OO world.

                              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                              {
                              public void DoWork()
                              {
                              throw new NotSupportedException();
                              }
                              }

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                              Searril
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                              I use FireFox almost exclusively whether I'm on PC, phone, or tablet. It's not without its quirks, but it's the been the best of any of them for me. Three things that really sold it to me: (1) I DETEST webpages with small font sizes. I look at a computer all day long so my eyes get strained enough as it is, so the last thing I want is to make it worse by straining to read pages with small type. FireFox has a feature that allows you to zoom the text on a webpage without zooming the images so they aren't taking up ridiculous amounts of real estate on a page. I absolute love this feature and it would be very difficult to ever have to give it up. (2) The bookmark syncing across devices in FireFox has worked far better for me than in Chrome. It seemed in Chrome I was having trouble getting bookmarks to show up. (3) Addons. I love that I can install different addons to my android tablet that I cannot install using Chrome. On the cons, FireFox can be a resource hog at times, although it seems to have gotten somewhat better. I'd suggest giving it another try.

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                              • L Lost User

                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                The only problem I had with Windows was that IE wouldn't work.
                                The only problem I had with IE was that Silverlight wouldn't work.

                                I had a problem where IE11 was the only browser that wouldn't support Microsoft Outlook Web Access from Exchange 2010 out of the box. Chrome, Firefox and Safari all supported it. Seems like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing at Microsoft these days. By the way, Safari on OSX works really well, much better than Chrome or Firefox in my opinion :)

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                                IndifferentDisdain
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                                Brent Jenkins wrote:

                                By the way, Safari on OSX works really well, much better than Chrome or Firefox in my opinion

                                But then you have to use OSX; isn't that like burning down the house for the termites? :cool:

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                                  Brent Jenkins wrote:

                                  By the way, Safari on OSX works really well, much better than Chrome or Firefox in my opinion

                                  But then you have to use OSX; isn't that like burning down the house for the termites? :cool:

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                                  IndifferentDisdain wrote:

                                  But then you have to use OSX; isn't that like burning down the house for the termites?

                                  More like burning down the house killing off the termites, then building a bigger, better one without all the problems of the original :laugh: I used to be anti-Apple for a long time but Windows Phone was so bad it pushed me onto iPhone, then Windows 8 came along and finally convinced me to give OSX a go and I haven't looked back. Thinking back on it, it's weird how these anti-Apple/Microsoft/Google sentiments get started? I still use Windows 8.1 but only for .NET development with Visual Studio. For everything else I prefer OSX.

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                                    IndifferentDisdain wrote:

                                    But then you have to use OSX; isn't that like burning down the house for the termites?

                                    More like burning down the house killing off the termites, then building a bigger, better one without all the problems of the original :laugh: I used to be anti-Apple for a long time but Windows Phone was so bad it pushed me onto iPhone, then Windows 8 came along and finally convinced me to give OSX a go and I haven't looked back. Thinking back on it, it's weird how these anti-Apple/Microsoft/Google sentiments get started? I still use Windows 8.1 but only for .NET development with Visual Studio. For everything else I prefer OSX.

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                                    IndifferentDisdain
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                                    Yeah, I couldn't help myself. Interesting, as I was the exact opposite. I was on iOS, got bored with it (static icons are so 2007), went to WP7 over three years ago and haven't looked back (on WP 8.1 now). I gave OSX a fair shot for about 6 months or so, but I ended up really just using the iMac as a VM server for a Windows image, so that didn't make sense either. So I sold it, built a homebrew that's running Windows 8.1 and couldn't be happier.

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                                    • I IndifferentDisdain

                                      Yeah, I couldn't help myself. Interesting, as I was the exact opposite. I was on iOS, got bored with it (static icons are so 2007), went to WP7 over three years ago and haven't looked back (on WP 8.1 now). I gave OSX a fair shot for about 6 months or so, but I ended up really just using the iMac as a VM server for a Windows image, so that didn't make sense either. So I sold it, built a homebrew that's running Windows 8.1 and couldn't be happier.

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                                      IndifferentDisdain wrote:

                                      I was on iOS, got bored with it (static icons are so 2007)

                                      Widgets does seem to be the one thing missing from iOS - hopefully iOS8 will make some steps in the right direction.

                                      IndifferentDisdain wrote:

                                      I ended up really just using the iMac as a VM server for a Windows

                                      I was determined to use the Mac as a Mac rather than use it as a Windows machine. There's a learning curve involved, but once you're used to it you can get things done mega-quick. Keyboard shortcut consistency between applications is a big plus. Another plus you get to learn Objective C (and Swift once the final version of XCode 6 is released) if you're that way inclined :-D

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        I'm kind of done with Chrome. It just doesn't play YouTube sound for some video's. I fixed it once, but it came back for no apparent reason. Well FU Chrome, I'm done with you! So looking at some alternatives. 1. IE. NEXT!!! This wasn't really an alternative to begin with. 2. FireFox. Not bad, used it a while, but still switched to Chrome. Maybe something else? 3. Safari. Nope. Just nope. 4. Opera. Never used it. It's supposed to be good and fast and lightweight... Sounds good! It also has AdBlock and Last.fm scrobbler (my must-have apps). Unfortunately no CP Reputation Watcher, but I guess I'll manage without. 5. Maxthon. Never even heard of it before now. A cloud browser that supposedly makes browsing across different platforms seamless. Great, except that I don't use other platforms for browsing. It probably doesn't have my favourite apps either. So I think I'll try Opera for a while. Does anyone here actually use Opera? What are your experiences?

                                        It's an OO world.

                                        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                                        {
                                        public void DoWork()
                                        {
                                        throw new NotSupportedException();
                                        }
                                        }

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                                        Matt McGuire
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                                        I was an avid Opera user for many years, but then they made some recent changes I was not cool with buy basically switching their original rendering engine over to chrome's, lost a lot of functionality and options. I've been using Torch for the last year and seem to be happy with it (still based on Chrome, but I like the interface better.)

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